Raise Vassily price and add warning text


(Guziol) #41

[quote=“teflonlove;179778”]There’s a couple of reasons why an unskilled Vasili is worse than any other unskilled merc:

  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back, do not really see what the more skilled players are doing and consequently can’t learn from them.
  • Unskilled Vasilis miss their shots completely an do not contribute partial damage like any other unskilled player that delivery at least some random hits in close combat.
  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back and never provide body cover for others. Not even accidentally.
  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back and never act as distraction to make an opponent have to choose which one of the mercs in his vicinity to shoot at.

I also utterly suck with Vasili, but I rarely play him for more than 2 minutes per match (unless my team is the stronger one and my sucking does not keep it from winning).[/quote]

Don’t forget the wasted time when other new players revive downed vasilis by hand when they are not medics because they think they are helping.


(Guziol) #42

[quote=“SzGamer227;179955”][quote=“Protector of the Outback;179919”]Lol some drama queens in this thread.

Nobody is attacking you or your sniper merc or sniper ways.

The fact is that it’s difficult to be an asset to your team when you’re new to this game, especially with Vassili. You can get 8-10k (and actually help your team) as a noob by dropping a health station or dropping ammo.

Just trying to make people more informed before they purchase the merc, as he’s quite difficult to play.

Comprehension people. At least read the OP before getting upset lol.[/quote]

Yeah, no. Your solution is crude and stems from targeting Vassili as the most problematic merc for new players to play, and is based entirely on your bad experience with bad Vassili players. You didn’t just stop at proposing that Vassili cost the same as everyone else. You say that there should be a warning message that tells new Dirty Bomb players that their sniping skills mean jack squat when they try to buy Vassili, yet your discrimination against him is so poorly veiled that you completely disregarded the other sniper mercs.

You don’t acknowledge the real problem. You aren’t looking for a comprehensive solution. You’re just bashing on Vassili, and the only people who agree with you have the same prejudice and lack of foresight on the matter that you do. There are real solutions to this problem, but you’re not going to be the one to find them, because you’re making the wrong suggestion for the wrong reasons.

interjecting here because I just went on a massive rant about losing faith in humanity

spoiler’d because it was starting to take up too much page space

because I am one of the people in this world who is still considerate of others

even if I don’t agree with a single word they say

[spoiler]It’s disturbing how many people let their hatred of Vassili cloud their reasoning.

Like… seriously.

I knew there was stigma against Vassili, but…

…you guys are insane.

This mindless “find any way to make Vassili go away” stuff is out of control.

This is why Naz!s were able to do what they did.

I mean, for god’s sake, I don’t even like Vassili, but I have the reasoning and foresight to see that this is a truly awful solution and a very bad mindset that y’all have on this issue.

Are people so hopelessly driven by prejudice that they don’t realize how bad this solution is?

That you can gloss over a comprehensive solution that gets all new players oriented to all aspects of Dirty Bomb, and instead target a very narrow manifestation of a much bigger underlying problem without thinking twice?

That you literally have no craps to give about what happens as long as Vassili is affected in a very negative way, because “Noob Vassilis are the worst thing in Dirty Bomb and I’m not even going to think of a single other issue I have with new players”?

Yeah.

This is why aliens don’t visit us.

Get your @$!# together.

This is not getting anywhere, no matter how many people agree with the hypothetical garbage you pile onto Vassili.

There’s a political term for this.

It’s called demagoguery.

It appeals to popular desires and prejudices rather than rational argument.

I honestly shouldn’t be surprised that this thread has so much support because of that.

After all, Donald Trump gets away with it.

Now he’s the frontrunner for the Republican party.

Because people honestly don’t give half a crap about being rational.

They don’t even know they’re doing it.

They just get excited about the wrong things.

And support things for the wrong reason.

Just because someone said something they liked.

They don’t go back and think “man that was some dumb @$!# I just said”.

They just continue on.

Oblivious to how obviously negative the impact of what they support is.

Even in the face of real solutions for real problems.

They don’t even know.

Or they just don’t care.

Either way, my faith in humanity is slipping ever more.

Donald Trump is actually a popular presidential candidate.

People care way too much about the Kardashians.

We can’t even handle a video game character without turning into Naz!s.

What is this world.

Anyways,

I think I’ve made my point by now.

Or perhaps you’ve just stopped reading.

Either way, my thoughts are coming to a close.

Might as well end this rant here.

Congratulations if you made it this far.

That’s quite impressive.

Hopefully you still have an ounce of faith in humanity left after this.

People are worth believing in.

Even if all to many of them prove your trust to be misplaced.

That is all.

Thanks for reading.

Or not.

I don’t know.

I just needed a place to vent.

I guess that place was here.

Cheers.[/spoiler][/quote]

Someone hit a nerve. Also lmao, naz!s as an argument. Ever heard of Godwin’s law? And now trump is involved too. I might have found a new copypasta.


(Herr_Hanz) #43

[quote=“Guziol;180032”][quote=“teflonlove;179778”]There’s a couple of reasons why an unskilled Vasili is worse than any other unskilled merc:

  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back, do not really see what the more skilled players are doing and consequently can’t learn from them.
  • Unskilled Vasilis miss their shots completely an do not contribute partial damage like any other unskilled player that delivery at least some random hits in close combat.
  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back and never provide body cover for others. Not even accidentally.
  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back and never act as distraction to make an opponent have to choose which one of the mercs in his vicinity to shoot at.

I also utterly suck with Vasili, but I rarely play him for more than 2 minutes per match (unless my team is the stronger one and my sucking does not keep it from winning).[/quote]

Don’t forget the wasted time when other new players revive downed vasilis by hand when they are not medics because they think they are helping.[/quote]

trust me. when you are downed you will be happy if anybody tries to revive you. medic or not.


(MTLMortis) #44

The one thing I never do is waste time picking up a Vas/Red/Aimee unless they’ve already proven themselves in the round. I won’t even defib them as a medic.


(Guziol) #45

[quote=“Herr_Hanz;180244”][quote=“Guziol;180032”][quote=“teflonlove;179778”]There’s a couple of reasons why an unskilled Vasili is worse than any other unskilled merc:

  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back, do not really see what the more skilled players are doing and consequently can’t learn from them.
  • Unskilled Vasilis miss their shots completely an do not contribute partial damage like any other unskilled player that delivery at least some random hits in close combat.
  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back and never provide body cover for others. Not even accidentally.
  • Unskilled Vasilis camp in the back and never act as distraction to make an opponent have to choose which one of the mercs in his vicinity to shoot at.

I also utterly suck with Vasili, but I rarely play him for more than 2 minutes per match (unless my team is the stronger one and my sucking does not keep it from winning).[/quote]

Don’t forget the wasted time when other new players revive downed vasilis by hand when they are not medics because they think they are helping.[/quote]

trust me. when you are downed you will be happy if anybody tries to revive you. medic or not.[/quote]

Yeah, no. Being revived by hand with 30hp when i could respawn 5 sec later with full when there is no medic around, im just gonna press K.
Not to mention playing rhino in this situation.