Rahdo's words - what happened here?


(wolfnemesis75) #301

[QUOTE=Jess Alon;357915]There are destructible environments. Gates, objectives. If you’re saying people should be able to blow holes in walls… that would totally disrupt the balance. People would breach objective rooms and make the game absolutely annoying. Also if you’re saying you should be able to destroy random small things… that’s one of the good things Brink has going for it. The level of detail put into the levels. Why would you want to smash it? Ok so we’ve all said the smoke grenade would be useful… but imagine a whole team spamming that and moving through to the objective. That would degrade the quality of a match. I’m not sure what you mean by more lines… I myself would like more voices but NOT more lines. These guys are talkative enough in game.

Second part: Wolf you can’t be surprised that people react to you the way they do when it’s perceived that you take a zero tolerance hard line approach to people criticizing the game. You’re coming off as a watchdog and a troll to people who are just trying to communicate about their issues. If you want your perspective to be valid then you need to start validating their perspective and showing that you understand where they are coming from by relating to them in their plight. Because some of my PC friends have PMed me asking exactly what you mean because they don’t want to get into it with you all over again. Or get into a flamewar with you via PM and get warnings handed down to them. I think you should consider that their are people who understand where you’re coming from but feel YOU are not listening to THEM. We don’t need people holding grudges around here and we should take the time to be more respectful of each other. I’m not trying to police any conversations or anything like that. I’m just saying some mutual respect and diplomacy will go a lot farther then calling PC players self-entitled or PC players calling console players children.

Also I’ve been here a decent amount of time… or at least long enough to observe how things were handled before the influx of players. And I’ve seen PC players have long drawn out conversations about things with differing views without it ever turning disrespectful. And when the thread was done with it sunk to the bottom.

Now there are people who argue just to argue, criticize because they want to see the reaction, or have a valid point and it takes wisdom to know the difference between the two. Because arguing with a troll that has the correct perspective from someone else’s point of view is just going to make you look like the troll.[/QUOTE]
As long as the thread has some content relevant to the gameplay of Brink, I will continue to add my two cents. Just take what you will from it or don’t. The nature of a forum. As long as its done in a mature manner, its part of the discussion and should be ok. That’s my point that I made. There are many people that play Brink. For good or worse they are gonna have differing perspectives. :slight_smile:


(wolfnemesis75) #302

Why can’t I jump over the top of the plane on Refuel? I want to be able to. What’s the reasoning behind the invisible wall? :tongue:


(N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒) #303

No wolf. You can’t have ANY say on this matter.

There is brink PC gameplay.

And there is brink CONSOLE gameplay.

Just because both have brink doesn’t mean they play same. The difference is, PC has different controls (more precise), different expectations, different communities, different experiences (we play hard games that take skill, sorry).

mansLAUGHTER=/=LAUGHTER

Kapish? Now shutup.

Oh and maybe you guys don’t notice, but just because brink is doing BETTER on consoles than PC doesn’t mean it’s doing good.

And another thing, people might think pc are elitist. Well we can be, sorry >.> Accept the facts. Maybe we don’t have to be dicks about it, but PC is better. (And don’t even call me an elitist because I said PC has games that require much more skill than console. Coming from a console and going onto pc, I got raped. CSS and Quake takes years to master. Halo maybe a month, tops).


(FireWorks) #304

Fancy symbol name!


(DarkangelUK) #305

So in other words wolf, you don’t want to be left out so you’re trying your hardest the divert thread towards something you ‘may’ know something about when really no one else wants to discuss that cos that’s not the point of the thread ‘speak to me devs please!!’

As for next games, it will be curious to see what direction they take. I will be keeping a close eye, and I have learned a lot from this experience as well. To begin with I was probably as defensive as wolf is now, but well I can admit when I’m wrong and a lot of things just don’t work.


(N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒) #306

Actually it first was N̢̢̮̬͖͈̝͕̜͔̞̳͓̬̺͓͍̿ͥ͂̽̍̑̽̍ͥ͂͆̚͠i͎͕̪̫̦ͩ͌ͮ͛͌̌̋͟͠͝č̸̶̨͓̥̩̜͍̩͉̺̲̹͙̤̣ͧͨͪ̌͐͜͡k̸͇͔͔̫̱̝ͦ́̇̇̏̌͆ͭͮͦ́̀1̢̼̜̗̠͎͙̣̰̎͛͗̈͆̒̄͗͆̄͊͞͝0̸̠̮̪̞͈̏̋̂ͤͤ̈ͩͧͦ̐̔̽ͧ̊̒́2̌͆͌̆҉̧̛̲͙̗͕͢1̷̼͍͉͔̭̝͈͔͙̤̗̱͚͉ͨͯ̒̉̌͞͞ͅ

But that was more than 20.

So it became N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒̈̅̚

but it messed up and turned it that.

HE COMES!

And btw, yes. It’s me nick1021.


(Spendlove) #307

[QUOTE=N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒;358024]No wolf. You can’t have ANY say on this matter.

There is brink PC gameplay.

And there is brink CONSOLE gameplay.

Just because both have brink doesn’t mean they play same. The difference is, PC has different controls (more precise), different expectations, different communities, different experiences (we play hard games that take skill, sorry).

mansLAUGHTER=/=LAUGHTER

Kapish? Now shutup.

Oh and maybe you guys don’t notice, but just because brink is doing BETTER on consoles than PC doesn’t mean it’s doing good.

And another thing, people might think pc are elitist. Well we can be, sorry >.> Accept the facts. Maybe we don’t have to be dicks about it, but PC is better. (And don’t even call me an elitist because I said PC has games that require much more skill than console. Coming from a console and going onto pc, I got raped. CSS and Quake takes years to master. Halo maybe a month, tops).[/QUOTE]

I play on PC and I simply don’t understand the majority of complaints on this thread. Ok, so I get frustrated by the F key as a medic getting dragged left right and centre when all I want to do is res a teammate. SMART works fine for me, the guns are fine. The HUD is fine. I am not interested in changing my crosshair. VOIP is not so great in Europe where everyone is shouting in 25 different languages and tbh, while I was frustrated at first not getting it to work, I have not missed it.

I don’t play competitive though, just casual after a crap day at work or after being nagged by the other half all day and to de stress. Are the majority of complaints from competitive league players on the PC? What proportion of gamers are they?

But to summarise, Brink helps me unwind after a ****ty day. No point raging about your hobby and making it all worse!


(N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒) #308

Idc what you think about pc, My point is that Wolf shouldn’t think he is justified to have a rational opinion on this matter.

And idk, maybe you should try css or quake live??? Or some other skill based game? Idk, idc.

edit:skimmed some more. Kk you play casual. That explains a lot. Imo there are a lot better casual games that are cheaper. Hell, tf2 is free.


(Verticae) #309

PROTIP:

Seriously, he’s not worth it.


(N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒) #310

[QUOTE=Verticae;358037]PROTIP:

Seriously, he’s not worth it.[/QUOTE]

Awww cmon. NO don’t do that. Unblock him. I love these arguments everyone makes against him that completely demolish him, but he just goes on and on while having fingers in his ears going “LALALALALALALALALALALA I’M RIGHT LALALALALALALALALALA”


(Spendlove) #311

[QUOTE=N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒;358035]Idc what you think about pc, My point is that Wolf shouldn’t think he is justified to have a rational opinion on this matter.

And idk, maybe you should try css or quake live??? Or some other skill based game? Idk, idc.

edit:skimmed some more. Kk you play casual. That explains a lot. Imo there are a lot better casual games that are cheaper. Hell, tf2 is free.[/QUOTE]

I have got TF2 but tbh not really got into it. It couldn’t drag me away from QWET or WET and it seems to have gone crazy with hats and stuff and in game MMO style building? Weird.


(N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒) #312

Ye, micro transactions are retarded. I honestly think anyone who spends money on virtual hats shouldn’t deserve to live.

But I kind of bought a 10 dollar hat myself. I got it the day before it became free D=<

Well if you don’t like tf2, try out the spy. That’s basically all I play. I probably wouldn’t enjoy tf2 at all if there was no spy.

But there are still many other casual games that are cheaper (maybe not team based, or an fps even).


(kilL_888) #313

[QUOTE=N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒;358046]I honestly think anyone who spends money on virtual hats shouldn’t deserve to live.

But I kind of bought a 10 dollar hat myself.
[/QUOTE]

anything more to say?

btw nick… whats with your other account? got banned again?


(N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒) #314

[QUOTE=kilL_888;358055]anything more to say?

btw nick… whats with your other account? got banned again?[/QUOTE]

Ye, and I lurk everyday. Until Wolf says some more stupidity.

Eh, this one will get banned also. But it’s not hard to avoid.

Oh and good job taking my quote out of context.

I bought a 10 dollar hat because I bought it one day before it became free. I couldn’t know it was going to be free (it cost me 10 dollars). And since I got it a day before, it gave me the hat for having it before it became f2p. Thus the 10 dollar hat.


(kilL_888) #315

[QUOTE=N̵͎̙̗̫͔̮̪̣̞̠͖̹ͤ̂̒;358058]
Eh, this one will get banned also. But it’s not hard to avoid.[/QUOTE]

ip range ban sound familar?


(BioSnark) #316

I know this is meant as content dilution but it’s an excellent example of the heavily enclosed, corridor level design that contradicts the SMART system’s goal of freedom of movement. Thank you for highlighting that, even if unintentionally.

@sockdog: The problem with both the a real, non-demo beta and delaying (or ‘porting’) the PC release is PR. It may be better for SD in the long run but perhaps not for Bethesda as loss of initial sales may not outweigh gains in long term sales.


(wolfnemesis75) #317

Content dilution. Whaaaaat? The heck are you talking about? Inexplicable reasoning and logic. No, I literally was asking and wondering why an invisible wall was put over the plane. We are talking about flaws in the game and I was pointing out an example.


(Ashog) #318

yeah, posted in a wrong forum. Why would I care about the clans and comp forum?


(Jess Alon) #319

Heh. You should be a politician dude.


(BioSnark) #320

@wolfn75 That’s actually more disappointing because it would point to what dauk said but this is beside the point of the topic.