Question about PB Violations


(ND80) #1

Trying to get a handle on some of the pb cheat violations that players are kicked for. Going back through my pb cheat logs and retroactively banning those caught using wallhacks/aimbots/speed hacks (something I’ve lagged behind in doing) and see a large number of players kicked for video driver hacks #90002, #90003, #90007.

I hesitate to ban someone for these violations unless I understand them better. Thanks for your input.

I’ve twice emailed PB about this, no response.

As a side note, many many wallhack violations being picked up. Makes me wonder how many arent :frowning:


(Azarael) #2

I know that I see quite a few people autokicked for pb init failures and the like, some of whoom I’m quite sure don’t cheat. My response is, that just kicking a player with out a relyable spec first would be premature. Besides, if these players are getting kicked already, it may not be worth your time to ban them all.


(McAfee) #3

This probably isn’t gonna be enough, but it’s a start:
http://www.evenbalance.com/publications/players/index.htm#violations


(ND80) #4

Im not talking about pb init failures. Those arent even recorded in the pb cheat logs. I’m talking about pb reported hack violations.


(Sauron|EFG) #5

Check out this thread:
http://www.punksbusted.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1247

[PB-Staff]Bjoern: “There are no known issues with video driver hack violations and legal drivers - they are all caused by cheat drivers.”


(DG) #6

Id ban any video driver hack that has come up in the past 2 months at least.

btw it could be worth you using the “pbmgr.exe” parser on your pbbans.dat file, click on the IP header and use that to figure out IP’s and ip ranges to ban using g_banips or pb_sv_banmask

does anyone actually use punksbusted? their et ban list hasnt been updated in at least a month.


(ND80) #7

Yeah DG I was thinking of starting with last two months of video drive hacks. I know back in July PB had a issue with violation #90003.

This from non video hacks, this is what I have done so far:

http://www.nd80usa.net/Hall_Of_Shame/

I signed up yesterday for punkbusted. Guess I should share with them these guids.


(nate.h) #8

God… That really is a depressingly long list :frowning:


(SCDS_reyalP) #9

FWIW (I bet DG and ND80 know this already), pb init failure seems to show up when the client crashes. Not an indication of cheating at all.


(ETplayer) #10

note , some cheats still work with pb, i just know it…

Some german guy entered a game, and only made headshots, and he was like, COOL MY NEW AIMBOT WORKS … note pb was on… :disgust:


(Fusen) #11

etplayer theres been many-a-post on teh fact that cheats work even on pb enabled servers dont start up the topic here too


Silver Surfer Vaporizer


(DG) #12

there’s 3 logfiles made by PB, a general one with everything, sv_cheat.log which only logs cheat detections (plus gameintegrity 20005 [cheat-protected cvars afaik] which is fubar so theyre not kicking for it; PB init etc.) and sv_viol.log which is just about everything else, no idea why they dont put PB init and game integrity etc in sv_viol, surely the point of the two logs is one for cheaters and one for misc violations? Only need to use sv_cheat to see who to ban (ignoring the #20005’s) - though I take a note of the sv_viol lowscore entries just to keep a tally. the codes to ban for usually have a fairly obvious description - WALLHACK, GAMEHACK, AIMBOT and so on. If it leaves anything to ambiguity, just leave it.

Thats a huge list, though not too much use because of the lack of IP, anyone can just claim its not them and go use one of their other guids. stripping out my tkers and bans from other sources, mine little shits are these, though no doubt the llamas will link to this thread and call it hall of fame. (list probably wont be updated btw, i just copy the pbbans into a .txt and post it elsewhere).

Getting severly tempting to start kicking people for blank pb screenshots (as in am not going to, but want to), ati have fixed the driver bug and the cheaters are trying to block them now. bit suspect of a few that have no entry in the “attempted” line, not seen that until recently, normally black screenshots still had that line filled in :s

I’d consider joining punksbusted but I cba with their submission process, i just have a couple of servers and simply check the logs, copy and necessary entries and then delete so its fresh for next time i check. them asking for the sv_cheatl logs would be inconvenient - and anyway thats no more secure, could have just edited it.


(Gambit) #13

I just did an interview with Tony Ray of Punkbuster if you’re interested. I tried to ask questions that I keep seeing coming up in forums, etc. YOu can find it here in the War on cheating:


(LKS_FreeMan) #14

[quote="“ND80"”]

Tell me that |ND80|MajorGunz from the Unlimited Abuse section is not really from your clan?! :bash: :banghead:


(Azarael) #15

I thought that was kinda funny too FreeMan :smiley:


(DG) #16

Useful for preventing peons pretending to be admins:

PB_SV_NameLock [GUID or partial match] [Name to Lock]
Causes the PunkBuster Server to kick players wearing a locked name unless the player’s GUID contains the specified GUID or partial match associated with a locked name; NameLocks are not stored to disk automatically so Admins should add these to the pbsvuser.cfg file in order to have NameLocks extend to future server sessions


(ND80) #17

Tell me that |ND80|MajorGunz from the Unlimited Abuse section is not really from your clan?! :bash: :banghead:[/quote]

No, he’s not a member of anything relating to me or my teams. He was an idiot that was running around spoofing ND80 names, etc.


(ND80) #18

I went back and added the IPs to the list.


(Englander) #19

THNX for posting that list ND80,theres 2 names in there iam shocked & disgusted at.


(SCDS_reyalP) #20

and you think those names are actually the people in question because … ?

They certainly could be, but one cheater-namestealer has already been pointed out.

Unless you know the actual players GUID or IP, you cannot say that a particular person actually used the cheats. It would be very easy to copy somones nick, load a detected cheat, and go play on servers until you got banned.

I see some names I recognize on there too. Without other evidence, they are just that… names.