Phantom Feedback by Einde : who ya gonna call ? Phantombusters !


(Eox) #101

Okay, I just realised something out. At the moment, the reflective armor does not allow a creative use : you can’t sneaky plant with it, you can’t help up a teammate with it, you can’t sneaky repair with it… Hell, you can’t do anything with it at this point, besides rushing someone.

If we remove him the shield, I think it could be fair to allow him to perform any action he wants while being invisible : playing an objective, helping up a teammate… This promotes teamplay and a somewhat creative use of his invisibility.


(Gi.Am) #102

I must admit I was a bit disapointed when I found out that he can’t do anything while stealthed. But I can see the amount of griefing, invis planting (not so much defusing) or especialy invis EV pushing will cause. I mean right now a glance is enough to check wether someone is trying to plant or not. But with the ability to invis plant you would either need someone babysitting that spot 24/7 and / or spray bullets into the area to check.

I mean personaly I wouldn’t mind allowing it. But it might be a bit OP and could be another vector of Phantom hate.


(Eox) #103

[quote=“Gi.Am;48508”]I must admit I was a bit disapointed when I found out that he can’t do anything while stealthed. But I can see the amount of griefing, invis planting (not so much defusing) or especialy invis EV pushing will cause. I mean right now a glance is enough to check wether someone is trying to plant or not. But with the ability to invis plant you would either need someone babysitting that spot 24/7 and / or spray bullets into the area to check.

I mean personaly I wouldn’t mind allowing it. But it might be a bit OP and could be another vector of Phantom hate.[/quote]

The thing is, I though about it since a long time, and I really tried, but I can’t see what’s OP (especially if Phantom does not have his armor shied anymore). Something that can plant the C4 without being seen, heh, it’s a sneaky plant. I can do it with any engie as well. Yet your C4 still need a time to activate. It’s cool to sneaky plant, but you need that C4 to explode, heh : you will need your team to defend it. Also, as Phantom, planting the C4 takes 5 seconds : if we consider the normal invisibility time, this is 5 seconds among a 6 seconds invisibility. And I am not even talking about repairing : you repair very slowly, and a bar showing the EV repair progress is available…

If he can force the Defending team to stay a bit more near the objective, I don’t feel like it’s a bad thing. If needed, just make him slightly more visible if he plays an objective or help up someone.


(ATTEM) #104

Besides removing shield from Phantom’s cloak, another useful nerf would be making Phantom unable to have the cloak on when he sprints.


(watsyurdeal) #105

[quote=“Eox;48521”][quote=“Gi.Am;48508”]I must admit I was a bit disapointed when I found out that he can’t do anything while stealthed. But I can see the amount of griefing, invis planting (not so much defusing) or especialy invis EV pushing will cause. I mean right now a glance is enough to check wether someone is trying to plant or not. But with the ability to invis plant you would either need someone babysitting that spot 24/7 and / or spray bullets into the area to check.

I mean personaly I wouldn’t mind allowing it. But it might be a bit OP and could be another vector of Phantom hate.[/quote]

The thing is, I though about it since a long time, and I really tried, but I can’t see what’s OP (especially if Phantom does not have his armor shied anymore). Something that can plant the C4 without being seen, heh, it’s a sneaky plant. I can do it with any engie as well. Yet your C4 still need a time to activate. It’s cool to sneaky plant, but you need that C4 to explode, heh : you will need your team to defend it. Also, as Phantom, planting the C4 takes 5 seconds : if we consider the normal invisibility time, this is 5 seconds among a 6 seconds invisibility. And I am not even talking about repairing : you repair very slowly, and a bar showing the EV repair progress is available…

If he can force the Defending team to stay a bit more near the objective, I don’t feel like it’s a bad thing. If needed, just make him slightly more visible if he plays an objective or help up someone.[/quote]

If anything I’d say it’d make him more of a team player and useful to go for such plants.

Carrying the Samples is one thing, but stealth repairs and plants would make him pretty sweet. Especially if actions like this made him visible like he is now.