Okay - So uh, you know, Shotguns?

(Vampwood) #21

With headshots and the animation skipping it was the most effective weapon even in normal.

(CC_FANG) #22

Just a reminder to everyone that direct attacks on other forumers are against the rules. Please keep that in mind when posting.
However, feel free to discuss/argue/debate game-related content! Just please keep from things like name-calling when you do it.
Thanks everyone <3

(Amerika) #23

I loved BC2. It’s the only BF game I’ve enjoyed (Rush, Team DM and no proning). But yeah, that was hilarious. Luckily they got it changed pretty quickly.

And yes, please be more civil if you disagree with somebody. Being civil costs you nothing but not being civil definitely can. This whole matter could have been cleared up quickly with a friendly response.

(Ghosthree3) #24

BC2 was fantastic, I was so pumped for BF3 because of that game. Then BF3 actually happened.

(Amerika) #25

Yup. That is exactly what happened for me. I was so pumped and then I saw what I was getting…an experience that was very little like BC2. I keep hoping they will revisit that franchise later and keep the same type of MP that BC2 had.

(Nail) #26

you’re wrong, the statements you made are entirely false and only serve as flame bait, any crap that falls on you from these statements is entirely because you posted flat out lies

here’s a thought check out the physics of a long walk on a short dock

(KattiValk) #27

If you want to complain about shotguns being unrealistically OP then you’d better look at pellet spread. That and pellets are terrible at penetrating high threat level body armor.

(Ottah) #28

while i dont think shotguns are sniper rifles, it really boggles my mind you can get outgunned by a shotgun at medium range while wielding an smg.

landed half your smg clip? let me just keep bouncing off walls and jump spam and still two shot you from medium range from full health.

(cornJester) #29

[quote=“awesomeSpout;49934”]while i dont think shotguns are sniper rifles, it really boggles my mind you can get outgunned by a shotgun at medium range while wielding an smg.

landed half your smg clip? let me just keep bouncing off walls and jump spam and still two shot you from medium range from full health. [/quote]
Again more exaggerations from the nerf shotguns crowd. If you had landed half of your magazine you would have literally killed every merc other than Rhino from body shots with the empire 9. AKA the weakest SMG per bullet.

Keep in mind the slow RoF of shotguns, you can easily fire enough rounds to kill them in the time it takes them to get off the two accurate shots to kill you. Assuming you’re even in range of a two shot kill due to spread which can be helpful or harmful at times.

(Ghosthree3) #30

[quote=“awesomeSpout;49934”]while i dont think shotguns are sniper rifles, it really boggles my mind you can get outgunned by a shotgun at medium range while wielding an smg.

landed half your smg clip? let me just keep bouncing off walls and jump spam and still two shot you from medium range from full health. [/quote]
Must be hard not being able to out aim a close range weapon with a long range one :frowning:

(CCP115) #31

Shotguns don’t have insane range.

The maps just have a lot of short range indoor engagements. Some anway. Chapel is fairly open, but if you were playing something like last point Bridge then yea, shotguns can screw anyone over.

And I hate jump spam with shotguns, I just feel as though jumping should punish more. It’s not a trickjump, it’s pressing a damn button, why is it not more punishing?

(irishrOy) #32

[quote=“extravagentBypass;50334”]Shotguns don’t have insane range.

The maps just have a lot of short range indoor engagements. Some anway. Chapel is fairly open, but if you were playing something like last point Bridge then yea, shotguns can screw anyone over.

And I hate jump spam with shotguns, I just feel as though jumping should punish more. It’s not a trickjump, it’s pressing a damn button, why is it not more punishing?[/quote]

To be blatantly honest: I have not seen a lot of jump-spam combined with shotguns.

Hell, the biggest jumpspam I’ve seen was being used by a bad Phantom in melee…

Not all maps are CQC-focused, for example Chapel, the new execution-map, or the Trainstation.

Overall, it’s just natural that there’s a lot of mediumrange-CQC-combat in almost any game.
Be it CoD or BF. And Dirty:Bomd is extremely fast and reaction-based, walljumps, etc. so there’s even more stuff going on in CQC.

But Shotguns in this game are really balanced, I feel. We have 3 shotguns, all with different uses. One small “sawn off” one that has big spread and deals high DMG. Then the 880 that is medium-accurate, and then the Ahnuld that has lower dmg to start off, is fairly accurate and has the longest reloadtime.

(titaniumCrouton) #33

You know I always find it funny with this community…If someone is complaining about something they have a personal problem with but the community disagrees they always fall back on the whole “Lolcompetitive” arguments.

Yet if the community wants something nerfed really hard or removed (see phantom as the current example) and someone make a valid point of “He already isn’t viable in competitive.” the community basically says “Screw competitive mah balancez”

O_o so which is it?

(c00face) #34

LOL. Seems like the only one whining kid, is you. You can make your exit now brat, nobody likes a trashy e-net thug who think he’s a genius with his disrespect. I came here simply to say, shotgun need adjustment because its’ long range and power, doesn’t fit the play style. A shotgun shouldn’t shoot straight forward as far as a rifle, and still have it’s accuracy.

It’s not about how realistic you can get. It’s about, at least keeping the idea of a shotgun, of being just that, a shotgun. And no brat, I would rape your little trash ass in-game. And I only started playing 4 days ago. Have a nice day.

(c00face) #35

[quote=“extravagentBypass;50334”]Shotguns don’t have insane range.

The maps just have a lot of short range indoor engagements. Some anway. Chapel is fairly open, but if you were playing something like last point Bridge then yea, shotguns can screw anyone over.

And I hate jump spam with shotguns, I just feel as though jumping should punish more. It’s not a trickjump, it’s pressing a damn button, why is it not more punishing?[/quote]

Yes, it does have long range. You need to go into a custom game, and test it out yourself. The shotgun has a fairly straight forward range, bullets that aim directly, and accurately. The bullet doesn’t scatter, nor does it act as a shotgun. It just have a pump like action with spread bullets going forward half way across the map. Have a nice day.

(c00face) #36

you’re wrong, the statements you made are entirely false and only serve as flame bait, any crap that falls on you from these statements is entirely because you posted flat out lies

here’s a thought check out the physics of a long walk on a short dock[/quote]

Your whole quote is a flame and a bait. Have a more logical response, nobody wants to quote back to a disrespectful man-child. Have a nice day.

(c00face) #37

If it’s a dumb response to an emotional assumption, it’s watsyurdeal!

(c00face) #38

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;49824”]If it kills me it’s op!!!
[/quote]

If it’s a dumb response to an emotional assumption, it’s watsyurdeal!

Oh the irony. I was in a couple of games with you before, and roxed you plenty. I guess I must be op. If only we were allow to save replays, I’ll post it here with screen shots.

(Jemmy) #39

“Its not OP if I use it!”

(waste) #40

You must have been really low on HP and RNG of the shotty’s spread must have been lucky, for you to get killed “halfway across the map”.