OK, this is off-topic, but it needs to be checked out!

(doppelganger810) #1

Our PC-using freedom is at stake. Go to http://www.againsttcpa.com/ for more details. :angry:

(No1_sonuk) #2

The latest “news” is over a year old!

(doppelganger810) #3

I didn’t say it was the “latest news”. I only stumbled onto it the other week and just wanted as many people as possible to know about the infringements that may or may not occur. What’s wrong? don’t you want people to know about the underhand strategies employed by hardware and software developers? Sorry if I’m a bit slow in getting the news, but it’s important all the same.

(No1_sonuk) #4

My point is there’s nothing happened recently, so it probably went away.

(senator) #5

Nope, TCPA is coming,that’s for sure, the next Windows and next generation mainboards and CPUs will already support it.

(pgh) #6

And the claim its impossible to decrypt is hilarious.

(No1_sonuk) #7

Hmm. Some anti-copy measures for CDs are so bad that you have to copy them (in a PC) so that they’ll work in ordinary audio players.

(senator) #8

Do you really belive so ? Well, in that case I am going to send you a little PGP encrypted file, you’ll get some CPU power (say the entire CPU power of the world combined) and some time (10.000 years for starters??) and you try to decrypt my file, OK ? :smiley:

(pgh) #9

Rofl. The litteral type :slight_smile: Ive just never came across a file or system that I havnt heard of or know someone who couldnt/hasnt hacked/cracked/decrypted it. :stuck_out_tongue:

On the subject… check out: http://www.thebroken.org - Ramzi > All.

(evilsock) #10

hmm, cracking it isn’t the issue - cracking it and still being able to use online facilities without the possibility of having your hardware identified as ‘hacked’ will be much harder.

(pgh) #11

Lets ask Microsoft about XP’s l33t Online Registration and 30 day CD-Key needing auth’d method for XP Home.

Boy did that work… :wink:

(evilsock) #12

I don’t like this at all - I see ‘M$ .Net’ becoming the internet for a lot of ppl in M$ land - think AOL but for the M$ generation :open_mouth:

Look to a point in the future, say about 5-7 years and you’ll see that anybody running M$'s version of ‘the internet’ will be using M$ ‘alike’ protocols which are based on existing RFC designs, but with that M$ ‘embrace and extend’ philosophy (think for a moment about their idea of ‘dynamic name resolution’). They plan to lockout anyone who isn’t using their O/S from M$ specific online services and technology. This is the death of Java (by slow water torture), the death of innovation, the death of the net as you experience it today - you have been warned.

For anyone who reads this forum and is between the ages of 16 and 24 - make sure you are exposed to *nix, BeOS, OS2 and Mac OS/X before you decide to join the ranks of the M$'ophiles and further perpetrate the createst computer fraud of all time.

(senator) #13

That’s because Windows is SOFTWARE and you cant stamp software with a GUID but the TCPA system works with a HARDWARE chip and you can mark every hardware chip with an individual unchangable identification key (every LAN card has it’s own unique MAC for example).

It will be a lot harder to crack this system.

(CM..Punk) #14

People will just stick to XP and not use MS’s crappy new system, or go to a completely different OS. Not to mention anybody who builds their own system will just never buy hardware with this stuff built in. I don’t see it being a problem, except for people that buy their systems pre-made at a ma & pa high street store.

(senator) #15

Tell me, how are you going to avoid their new OS if newer sftware will only run on this system ? If your older software is no longer able to open documents produced with the new software? How are you going to avoid the hardware if every new CPU/mainboard has the chip installed? Stick with your old system for the rest of your life and hope that it’ll never break ? No, you might be able to avoid it for a few years but sooner or later there simply wont be an alternative, especially if a law prohiobits selling hardware without a TCPA chip (and such a law WILL come).?

(pgh) #16

But possible none the less.

Similar to an idea of modding a console probably.

(senator) #17

But possible none the less.

Similar to an idea of modding a console probably.[/quote]

Good example, but you do know that MS was able to remotely detect all modded XBoxes and thereafter ban them from XBox-live/terminate their accounts ?

The same will happen with modded computers.

(evilsock) #18

Well then, be sure to let us all see your cracked, hacked machine when these new motherboards reach revision 3.

(CM..Punk) #19

Senetor
Tell me, how are you going to avoid their new OS if newer sftware will only run on this system ? If your older software is no longer able to open documents produced with the new software? How are you going to avoid the hardware if every new CPU/mainboard has the chip installed? Stick with your old system for the rest of your life and hope that it’ll never break ? No, you might be able to avoid it for a few years but sooner or later there simply wont be an alternative, especially if a law prohiobits selling hardware without a TCPA chip (and such a law WILL come).?

Hardware without this piracy chip built in would sell a lot, the market would be there, so the products would come. Unless Microsoft somehow made it illegal in every country to go against what they want! Japanese companies are notorious for not conforming to standards put forward by Microsoft, just look at all the mess over DVD’s right now.

(pgh) #20

Lol. Look at the likes of Korea or whatever… there national standard for movies is VCD. Not VHS/DVD. :slight_smile:

Note: Untoo sure if its Korea for deffo but its somewhere similar cos me GF’s m8s Dad lives there and sends us the latest every few weeks… Thats whats ripped :wink: \o/