Oh my god! Soldiers have no reputation.


(Rain) #21

It’s not exactly what you’re looking for, but on etpro servers, /weapons at the console will display who’s carrying what heavy weapon.

The heavy weapons calculation in vanilla ET is a little strange, but etpro (maybe shrub? I don’t know) will allow you to set per-weapon limits instead. The vanilla ET heavy weapons limit (which also limits airstrkes/artillery) is described in DG’s Advanced Enemy Territory Server Setup article/page/post/thingie.


(Shard) #22

Well, i can tell you guys only play on pubs…

Because thats the only place panzers are called noob weapons…I would like to see you win a match without a panzer on defence! All other classes are important as well, off cause, but allmost every defence is win or lost on the placement of a panzer…

A panzer is a critical asset in clanmatches, please come over at our forum and tell our panzerplayer that it is a noob weapon! He will scrape your gibbed remains from every wall on the map!

I know that on most publics the panzersoldier is picked first by new players, because it looks so easy… But if this is bugging you, just kill him!

tbh i am sick and tired of this ï have been plying this game for ages so you have to play the way i like it, or i will totally flame you!"attitude…

As Bongoboy stated, its a TEAM game, live with it! if your team sucks, find a better one! If your team rules, HELP IT!

Someone suggested the panzer should only be used on certain maps?
He named battery as an example of where not to use it…If your on axis, and your dumb enough to show yourself in that bunker, after the spawn invulnerabiliy has worn off, you are asking to be reduced to a bloody splat! Your just making it too easy for the offence that way…Not everything can be blamed on the panzer…If he’s getting too many kills in the bunker, that MIGHT be a suggestion to get out of the bunker…

Hmm… gtg now, ill finish this later :stuck_out_tongue: in the meantime, feel free to keep calling soldier noobs, while they hand you your arse on a platter


(Aspone) #23

Well, nothing is easiest, and noobiest, then getting off the line of fire, heal yourself, and getting back to kill the half-dead enemy that you were shooting. Stop with this complain about panzer and remeber that they have only 4 rounds and take some seconds to be available to be used again. IMO soldier is the hardest character to be used. Not even talking about usin the mobile MG or the Flamer. Using Panzer is hard. Just shooting it is easy.


(Kerunch) #24

I hate panzers but thats because I keep getting Tkd in 1v1 as the guy with the panzer decides to help and wonders why i curse him from a height
I also hate them because when used correctly they are the most deadliest
in the game and can really screw up a well thought tatic at a crucil point in the game.Also I find people who call panzers n00bs are in fact the true
n00b.Take time out one day and spec a good panzer in action,you will be impressed i was.So to all good panzers :clap:
and to the fucwit panzer who tks 1v1 :bash:


(MadMaximus) #25

i find nothing wrong at all with panzers in the game, i play all the classes, and i have used all the weapons, and panzer is a good weapon. and of course i hear complaints from people i killed calling me panzernoob and so on, but if that player had any class, he would laugh it off and keep playing. if a player doesnt like being killed with a panzer and has to resort to name calling to get back at the person, well… hasbro and parker brothers make safer games to play… checker’s, monopoly… although if someone is willing to ‘lose their cool’ in et, im guessing no matter what game they play it wouldn’t matter much.

i get panzered tons of times, and at key moments when im healing someone or trying to call an airstrike, but ya know what? that person who panzered me got a clean kill… all the power to em, and hopefully next time i will get the kill. it’s just a game, and i can’t believe so many people lose control and have to resort to name calling or bad mouthing someone over something so trivial. were all bound to die in the game more than we like, but its better to laugh and have fun than bash your keyboard and get all gibble mouthed. tk’s with panzers happen a lot, yes… but i get killed more by a teammembers nade or friendly airstrike, and if i do get tk’d, i never complain, accidents happen… and if’s a funny accident all the better =)


(ConchMan) #26

It seems to me that soldier is one of the most consistantly useful classes of the bunch. With the exception of the smg soldier, the soldier class is the MVP of distraction, suppresion, and confusion.

While the opposition is worrying about taking down the:
-panzer before he can get off a 1st/2nd shot
-mg guy who is interdicting an area of the map
-the flamethrower who’s jumping around like a madman flaming in full spread

Or while they are worrying about:
-backtracking in the map to find the mortar guy who’s blasting an otherwise heavily entrenched enemy position.

Surprise, all of his buddy teammates are closing in on the objective.

The last time i checked, you don’t get xp for distraction, suppresion, and confusion either. And so it’s possible that a soldier may do his job well without getting any kills and that makes him the most unselfish class of the bunch too :slight_smile:

Of course there is plenty of room for unfair exploitation (as is possible with all of the other classes) but people who don’t give the soldier respect are either frustrated (which just means the soldier is doing his job well) or haven’t been playing long enough to see his usefullness. It’s too bad many of these people consider themselves great players.

The one change I’d make to panzer is to also award an automatic -3XP for a panzer suicide and -3XP for each team member also killed by a panzer-blast as opposed to waiting for team members to compain. One shouldn’t get XP for being reckless.


(MadMaximus) #27

that could be done in a mod like shrub i guess, but then the same should apply to all tk’s not just the panzer. if your LT calls an airstrike and takes out members of your team, he should also lose xp, same with tk nades, mines ect… the soldier shouldn’t have to singled out as the only one who loses xp, the soldier is the working class slob of the game and he gets enough abuse as it is

:smiley:

but i’d rather not see a change like that at all personly, if people really have a problem with panzers, there are servers that don’t have them, and they can play there.


(SylverDragon) #28

[quote=“MadMaximus”]

that could be done in a mod like shrub i guess, but then the same should apply to all tk’s not just the panzer. if your LT calls an airstrike and takes out members of your team, he should also lose xp, same with tk nades, mines ect… the soldier shouldn’t have to singled out as the only one who loses xp, the soldier is the working class slob of the game and he gets enough abuse as it is

:smiley:

but i’d rather not see a change like that at all personly, if people really have a problem with panzers, there are servers that don’t have them, and they can play there.[/quote]

I agree with all of this, except the mines. I usually play engy, and I love mines, but I have had way to many teammates who just can’t figure out how to avoid my mines. For example, on Railgun, as allies. I tend to keep 3 mines on the track switch (just to make sure I kill the @#$# out of the medic who flips the switch). And half the time, I kill more teammates with those mines than I do axis. Seems that the allies just blindly jump over the MG and down the hill, and BOOM, off goes one or more mines. And usually right as the tug is comming. :angry:
Which is another thing, while I am complaining about teammates on that map; why is it that I am often alone at the track switch for the axis’ first rush? Sure, the depot might be important enough to send 1 or 2 people. But why must everyone rush off to meet the tug in the open, instead of under cover of the MG? Am I missing an important tactic, or is it just people running off to play deathmatch, like I usually believe?
Lastly, I do think the soldiers are getting a bad name over nothing. Panzers, if used effectivly, are really, really, damned annoying to deal with. I can’t count the number of times an effective panzer (or two) have pinned my entire team down on goldrush (yes, I suck). And we all know about a good MG in the bank, or the panzer/rifle gernade needed to ask him to move. And mortar fire is great for denying the enemy a specific area to fight from (area just outside North Gun in oasis, is a good spot to mortar). And the flamer, well, that’s just good clean fun (ok, so I’m a bit of a redneck).


(=DoW=I'm_Drunk) #29

We play the standard 6-map camp on our pub servers and I almost always panz on the first and last map, battery and oasis.

Never fails, EVERY single game I get called every n00b name under the sun on battery for panzing. About midway through the second map as a medic (goldrush) and I’ve got the most SMG kills they shut up :stuck_out_tongue:

If I get 4 stars in light b4 the end of goldrush I’ll go back to panzer and fire down from the terrace as they approach just to rub it in.

I truly love when I get the particularly mouthy ones that incessently tell me to “get a real gun”, etc. and I quick switch to SMG. They usually leave after I drop em 4 or 5 times in a row :stuck_out_tongue:

Also, echoing what was already said, panzers are an ABSOLUTE neccessity in clan-based match play. A good panz on D can save the flag/obj with a single shot.

A lot of peeps have never played in a real match and don’t understand how diff it is.

You can lose a whole match pickin yer nose for a sec :stuck_out_tongue:

-d


(MadMaximus) #30

i think the panzer is a good weapon if used properly… and when people do start to name call people that are using the panzer is more icing on the cake if you ask me… the guy panzering is having a great old time, while the guy losing his cool is doing just that… getting ticked off puts someone off their game and makes them play bad, if the other team is panzering you and you don’t let it get to you and keep playing with a good attitude then your doing fine, but when you start to bad mouth someone for using the panz, your blood pressure is rising and you start to make mistakes which makes you more irritated.

keep cool, remain calm, the guy with the panzer dies from head shots like anyone else so just take em out. if people feel the need to start spammin the guy with crude remarks that usually makes the panzer guy laugh even more cause not only is he killing the other team, he’s getting them with psycological warfare at the same time. i never bad mouth another player or file complaints either, accidents do happen, i know i make my fair share of them.