Of Medics

(DasMonkey) #41

tk/revive is vital… when you’re the only one… or one of two medics on a 10+ man team…there’s no way you can medpack everyone. it just doesn’t happen.

it’s an exploit, is it?.. what, do you think they get xp for kill revives? no, not happenin.

Ask yourself… would you prefer one second of inconvenience and half/full health… or to die from 1 or 2 bullets from some player you more than likely would’ve been able to beat… and have no medic around. When i play medic, i do whats convenient for me, follow who i think is productive and i’m obviously not behind everyone all the time. i will go out of my way to healthpack, or if i’m low, tk/revive someone i’m passing… to help them. as i get nothing from it but the inconvenience of running out of my way.

if you complain me when i kill/raise you… you can be damn sure you’re in for a lousy time. No health packs, no raises, … and I’ll also go as far as to maim you every time i see you… along with maim your body when i see you drop. I don’t take complaints lightly and I get wood from ruining the day of those who complain.

(|Robot|Bender) #42

…and thats why i hate medics and never count on them… :drink:

([ccp]GuidotheSquid!) #43

Wow. There’s always fodder for a flame war, eh? :huh: lolz

Kyleb, dont sweat it brah. You know our meds are gonna tk/revive whenever possible. Sometimes its all he has to give. and you can’t tell if the medic has a full bar or not. If that med did nothing while you had 10HP, peeps would bitch about inattentive medics. They can’t win. Just deal with it. I think the TKRV should not be done as often when the med is into the higher levels, as he has more supplies and capabilites to do so. But whatever. Good Meds are under appreciated. Bad Meds are over-publicized.

Now, a medic that tk’s you and then drops med packs in front of your bleeding face without sticking you first, now that’s a complainable offense!

:rocker2:

btw, I’m not a medic. I just stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night… :smiley:

([B]Visa) #44

Yes if someone won’t let me med them the way I want to (which happens to be the most efficient way) then sorry, I’m not going to waste time on them.

A part that you obviously do not understand about meds is that on servers thus far, usually there aren’t a whole lot of meds playing. So basically you could be the only med for a 10+ person team. Now how do you expect the best way is to heal 10 teammates after a firefight?

I’m sure your method would be to toss out 4 or 5 medpacks and wait about 20 seconds for every medpack after. You’d prolly take the entire game tryin to heal teammates. If you knew the concept of a team game, you wouldn’t file.

I never TK-revive at an inappropriate moment. I make sure my teammate has more health than I could have given him with medpacks alone. You’re calling me a self-rightous jerkhole yet you obviously won’t open your eyes to teamwork.

And yes, I still stand by my statement that if you file a complaint for a TK-revive you won’t get any more medical attention from me. That makes me a jerkhole right? I call that payback for you being stupid, not understanding teamwork, and taking away some of my XP.

I give you the most amount of health in the quickest amount of time and you file and take away some XP from me… and I’m the self rightous jerk…

Ike-T

btw Try to be a little more mature than to start calling people names on the forums, it makes you sound very petty and small.

(|Robot|Bender) #45

:suspicious: :twak: :fluffle:

Its a game…screw it. Everyone has thier opinons… :drink:

(Pippi) #46

It’s very simple: if you state that you don’t want to be tk-ed/revived, np.
But don’t expect to get any medicing from any medics, we need our medipacks for ourselves and for teammates who have half health or more. We can’t be asked to walk behind your 3 health-ass like a puppy and wait till you die.

Remember that we medics are doing YOU a favour, not the other way around. Like I said: if you don’t want to help us medics a little bit to do our job, then np, but don’t expect any help from our side then too.

I’ll bet the ones opposing tk/revive are hardly ever medics themselves…

(Hewster) #47

I play med >95% of the time :slight_smile:
I hardly ever give myself health paks, as my regain of 3 points / sec
is enough, if I play my class effectivly (ie not a rambo medic !)

It seems to me the medics here what to play the game their way, and if
someone wants to play their own way, then teamwork is out of the
window, as if you don’t play their way, their not gona help you at all !!!
doh

“Remember that we medics are doing YOU a favour” really !, I thought
we were doing our job !! as part of a TEAM

I still can’t find mention of this TK/revive in the documents… and i do
believe it is an exploit, even if SD decided to make it even more
benificial.

BUT as I have said before I fully understand why its used, and infact
if I’m playing with people I know, and we have arranged it, I don’t mind.
Its just I can’t stand some ass_wipe deciding that its time to TK me,
when I thought it wasn’t… simple as that.

There ya go MY opinions.

Peace

Hewster

btw, those who think I’m wrong…don’t worry you won’t be seeing me
much more in ET, as there seems to be far too many plebs for my
liking ;)… I’ll stick to my own game.

(Vengeance) #48

I never really play medic and I am very thankful of the TK revive, even more so with the full energy revive.

Any medic who does this technique deserves a medal for all the crap they are getting these days for helping out there team.

([B]Visa) #49

TK-revive on the docs carrier has not been viewed as an exploit by at least CAL and TWL as far as I know…

The fact of the matter, regardless as to how team-oriented the medic is, is that TK-reviving a teammate with 20-30 health or less is smart to do about 90+% of the time. That’s just the straight up fact of it.

Arguing whether or not this is good teamplay is just silly. Consider that it is used extensively in clan matches which are usually way more organized than pubs.

i.e. TK revives are good teamplay most of the time.

Ike-T

(Mystiqq) #50

“Remember that we medics are doing YOU a favour”

hahahah… favour…hahaha…
thats end of my constructive reply :smiley:

cheers
mystiqq

(Pippi) #51

Well, we hardly do ourselves a favour these days, because of the chance that we get kicked off the server. So again: Medics are doing the others a favour, not themself. We are willingly taking the risk of getting complaints, for the team’s sake, NOT our own sake. And you think that’s funny? We don’t even get some meager XP points out of it.

Having said that, it’s offcourse obvious that you shouldn’t tk/revive on stupid moments (like someone lining up for a shot), Covops in disguise, or shoot off helmets.

(amazinglarry) #52

I think he was just pokin a bit of fun at the way you spelled “favour”.

In any case, I personally don’t believe a tk/revive is an exploit in the least. To consider that is just a bit silly I feel. If there were some ban against it… all one had to do to cover it up would be to get behind somebody who had minimal health and start firing over him at a “target”… and oops… you killed a teammate, better raise him…

But yea… cows… :moo:

(Riftgarde) #53

Main Entry: fa·vour
chiefly British variant of FAVOR

(Pippi) #54

Ah thx, I was already wondering about Mystiqq his post. I try to write in english the best I can. I often mix up my languages (because favour is american or french??? Maybe I got mixed up with flavour/flavor or whatever).
I only started to learn english in school when I was 10 years old or so.

(DogDoc) #55

I understand the tk/revive thing in matches. But it’s so bloody technical (it’s like a lawyer, ‘law twisting’ type of action imho), and on other posts in this forum people scream for realism? I like to play medic and after a while medpac DO come out my ass.

I have encountered the tk/revive on a few occations, I didn’t file but I didn’t like it. I was proning in the bank (as axis) and supported the mg’s, then, suddenly a headshot and…revive…as I come to my senses after a few seconds I was a standing target for an allied panzerfaust.

(bani) #56

i only tk-revive if:

  1. someone called for medic and is < 30% health
  2. someone is < 30% health and is not in any danger

and when a med gets leveled up to the point where they can full-revive, it makes much more sense to tk-revive than to use a bunch of medpacks:

  1. you save your medpacks to keep your own sorry ass alive so you can continue to poke your teammates:D
  2. it’s much faster than tossing a bunch of medpacks. usually i can tk and revive them before they even hit the floor.

if a player files a complaint after my tk-revive, they can be assured they will never receive a needle or medpack from me again, ever.

(Sick Boy) #57

I’m a seasoned RTCW medic and I don’t even consider not tk-reviving a near-dead teammate unless he is in the middle of combat or I’m running out of needles :smiley: , in wars as well as on pubs. However, you should do it as quick as possible, I understand newbies trying to tk-revive may sometimes not succeed, because they scroll for needle in the wrong direction, miss a few times and then get killed. :slight_smile:

Also, tk-reviving gives you 4XP to bring a teammate to 60 health and you can give him 2 or 3 more medpacks, thats 7XP. Giving medpacks would only give you a max of 4 XP as a level 0/1 medic. And XP is important for you and your team :slight_smile:

Especially as a level 4 medic, you should almost never give out medpacks, keep your bar for the adrenaline needle and to heal yourself.
Be an uber-medic, as people call it :cool:

(DasMonkey) #58

I pretty sure we tested the points on tk/revives long ago… and a medic gets no points for reviving someone he just tk’d(aka medic skill doesn’t even go up). So it’s not about the points, its just a matter of convenience.

(amazinglarry) #59

yea sick boy… if a teammate has been TEAMKILLED in general, a medic will get NO experience points for raising him.

I found this out while working out some “exploits” like… tkin’g somebody and raising them over and over to pump my medic ranking, but a medic gets zero xp for raising a tk’ed teammate. Cause I even tried having a friend tk somebody over and over and I raise. Heheheh. Just to see if it would work! Go SD for not allowing it.

And bani, you rock man. I agree 100% as usual. We just need some poison needles right?

(Sick Boy) #60

Ok I was wrong there and as you explained the exploit, I’m glad I was :smiley:

What if someone kills himself with a grenade, mine, satchel charge or whatever and gets revived? Any XP for that?