[NQ Unofficial 1.2.3] 2 Primary Weapons (MP40 & Thompson)


(Paul) #1

Description:
In addition to the Enhanced Mod which allows in jaymod, that the player can cary 2 primary weapons, here is a NoQuarter version(unofficial) of the double guns :slight_smile:
This replacement of the server side binaries allows that if you you have as primary gun a mp40 or a thompson, you get both. (In weapon slot 3). In the server settings g_doubleGuns must be set to 1. The var can also be set via shrubbot, you have to add the following in your shrubbot file:

Usage:
In your server.cfg place g_doubleGuns ā€œ0ā€ to disable and g_doubleGuns ā€œ1ā€ to enable the double guns feature. You can also change this var via rcon, it has effect the next time a player spawns.

Download:
Find downloads here

Ps: If you are going to use it, please let me know, just fun to know who’s using it :smiley:


(IRATA) #2

And another ā€˜Paul’ story … changing 2 lines of code and call it NQ is just ridiculous … ever read the NQ licence?
I expect to remove the download immediately …


(Paul) #3

Well, should I call it another mod then? Paul’s Mod? It’s just a little modification that many many people asked me to change for there server, because jaymod has it too.
I posted source code too, what do I have to change more to agree to the license included with the source for 1.2.3?


(turtle) #4

Thanks you Paul

we will do a test


(Rudi) #5

What license would this be exactly?? No mention of it in any downloads nor on your official website… I’m assuming if you host your own source code somewhere other than the main website it will be contained within that?

If it’s GPL, you’re directly violating your own choice of license.


(Paul) #6

Link posted to the NQ license where downloads are too, since I can’t change anything license will stay valid for these downloads too. But with this release, I’m not violating the license (as far as I know…) because I only added code (extention…) and the modified file(source code) is also on the page.


(dwe_flame) #7

yould you even licence a mod ? :rolleyes: after al it is a MODification to a game, that is not a NQ game :rolleyes:
aah well, could be me ofc…

nice mod paul =)


(system) #8

Bullshit topic, bullshit (aka) mini-mini-mod, 90% bullshit NQ license


(system) #9

I wonder who the ā€œmany peopleā€ are, you talk about (turtle ? :wink: )
ā€˜we’ got a server running too (not an infamous mod / server) and noone ever wanted or asked to carry 2 primary weapons around. (kiddy wishes…)

Secondly, i also doubt NQ’s licence but if they ask to remove the download, you should appreciate it and remove it.

I am not a part of the NQ mod team nor do i like the mod…but everyone has its taste. Do respect mod-creators demands.


(IRATA) #10

ā€˜Thanks you’ reminds at something … but I forget. Well dutchman puts it in a nutshell a bit respect is all we need.
The NQ licence comes with every download package and is located in the root of code repository. Paul’s first download did not contain any sources which is only one ā€˜violation’.

My goal is finally to protect our users/players and grant admin support.


(Paul) #11

I have been asked by lets say, 10 server admins too make this, and, it seems like more people like to use it. I can remove it, but I’d like to know exactly why I have to remove it… Also, if I need to remove it, please let the NQ team provide a 1.2.3 installation with this option, then no problem, I’ll remove it directly. My point it that people want it (seems like so…). About that ā€˜respect’, what on this is unrespectfull then? It’s still pure noquarter, only reason why I call it a little difference is because of the license. I don’t claim or say it’s a new mod, It’s still NQ but only with 1 little modification that people wanted.


(IRATA) #12

it’s a bit curious … such a feature request has never been made in the official forums and why only 1.2.3 ?

Respect our work and decissions. Use offical ways.

We may add g_doubleGuns in future - but this shouln’t be discussed here.


(system) #13

afaik you should provide a ZIP file with a ā€˜changes’ file and the other stuff. Not just offer the .SO files etc.
(at the moment your releasing SO files NOT packaged with any information wich imho sucks ass).

You also must or should provide the coders where to find the source of the changes all the time…

secondly your being stubborn as a kid only can be. If he asks or tells to remove it, it really should be respected, even if the licence is not 100 % correct after reading it.
I once had this too when i spread the word around about our mod and i asked to remove it (dunno the topic anymore) and he/she kindly removed it.
(Wonder what they licence anyway …derivative is hard to understand for me not being a lawyer :wink: )


(IndyJones) #14

i’m too lazy to read full topic, but for example, am i allowed to make one change in nq code, make build and then use it on my server with noquarter name?


(system) #15

Even if you are lazy, http://opensvn.csie.org/NoQuarter/License.txt

enough stuff to discuss about :slight_smile:


(Rudi) #16

Your binary distributions do not contain the license either, so you are violating your own license?!

The source file that was modified (a single file, with, from what I can tell, very minor modifications) is on the website - So I fail to see a legal (thus important and/or respectable) reason to remove the downloads.


(system) #17

Even if they did not until now, it can be easily fixed allthough a little too late.

edit. Even if you fail to see the legal issues, it remains a request from iRata (thus pounding on the license is kinda rough combined with the fact that the license is kinda messed up…).
I tried to read it but i dont understand a f**k …maybe 60 percent :S


(system) #18

[quote="ā€˜IRATA
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;207917’]it’s a bit curious … such a feature request has never been made in the official forums and why only 1.2.3 ?

Respect our work and decissions. Use offical ways.

We may add g_doubleGuns in future - but this shouln’t be discussed here.
[/quote]

For me, i see no real logic carrying 2 primary weapons.
You choose a class and its gun and there you go.
Additional weapons are nice, no doubt. but 2 primary weapons is nonsense…i think this ā€œideaā€ comes from jaymod players…


(Paul) #19

Yes, because NoQuarter is not registerd, I can make my own full mod, on my own code based and call it etpub, or jaymod, or noquarter. It’s not the point that I’m overrulling NQ, because I’m not claiming I made it everywhere. It’s just a little addon for some server admins. Why would I completely rename the full mod, so all people have all the binary’s and nq files double? Would not make very much sense.

Yes the license is not really clear, but I checked it in detail and i’m not violating at all.

I know it’s a request from irata, and maybe I’ll remove it but I want to have good reasons for it. I got many ppl saying to me don’t remove and a request to remove it. I want to know the arguments… Why is gods name is this bad for NQ? It’s more as promotion then demotion?


(ailmanki) #20

my 2 cents:
I think it would be ridicull if he had changed the hole code completely and call it NQ…
Changing 1/2 lines of code and calling it a NQ mod… makes more sense…

I am not sure why Irata wants that… maybe NQ is unique flavour… everyone joining a nq server knows what to expect more or less… now if you mod it, it can be quite different, but players still expect NQ… that is the only negative Point I can see right now… - sorry Irata, maybe I fail seeing what you see.