No TF2 spy like ninja play?

(Atavax) #9

the graphics look very different from tf2, but “objective based gameplay” is very tf2 and brink. Both tf2 and brink have very little one hit kills. Both tf2 and brink have a good focus on special movement. Both tf2 and brink took a less serious/realistic approach to the art style. So i think its legitimate to say that brink does look like tf2. One of the main differences is although the art style and movement in brink is unrealistic, it looks like most of brink’s weapons comes from the realistic shooter genre (lots of pistols, smg’s, assault rifles, ect) while tf2’s aresenal was the classic unrealistic shooter aresenal (rocket launcher, grenade launcher, ect.). Another obvious difference is brink using ironsights and tf2 using crosshairs.

(Je T´aime) #10

actually I understand why people compare this to TF2, the new generation of gamers don´t know games like ET etc the only game they know with classes, sentry guns, spys etc is TF2 and thats why.

(ClickClickBOOM) #11

Couldnt read OPs post until the end because my hand was covering my face…

(dazman76) #12

Yep, sad but true :slight_smile: I don’t like TF2 at all - the visuals, the gameplay - nothing really. The fact that people think it’s somehow the genesis of class-based FPS is even more saddening for me. Also, the “team fortress wiki” is actually all about TF2, and even has a section on hats :frowning: No mention of the original (and awesome) TF itself. I know it’s old now - but it’s still very playable, and at least it didn’t have hats.

You see this problem with any Games Workshop games and Blizzard players too. Warhammer is allegedly a rip-off of Warcraft, and now Warhammer 40K is a rip-off of Starcraft. Absolutely criminal really - I guess we should forgive these younger players, but they really should learn some recent history before they make these ridiculous claims. Blizzard has cloned everything they’ve produced - just as GW (and many others) did from Tolkien.

(system) #13

There’s a major difference between cloning something and taking inspiration from. And Blizzard admitted they have no idea where they would be without Tolkien.

But, as always, history is written by the ones still standing so…

(trollface) #14

Well said Atavax.

Wether the guy is trolling or not, we should expect a lot of players with background in popular games like tf2 and black ops to start playing this game and eventually end up on the forums. Sooner or later this immature “anti-everything” mentality is washed away along with the unfriendly users that feed on trolling newcomers.

(system) #15

So I suggest we start a new big thread called - I hate BRINK because it’s not “enter random game here” - so there wouldn’t have to be a new thread every few days. :stroggtapir:

(system) #16

So I suggest we start a new big thread called - I hate BRINK because it’s not “enter random game here” - so there wouldn’t have to be a new thread every few days. :stroggtapir:

oh, and a big lol at the Crysis comparison. loved that one.

(tokamak) #17

Finally someone gets it! Have some reputation sir! I really got sick of these Brink is TF3!11lol phrases.

(trollface) #18

What’s ridiculous is that with your dramatic claims to protect the truth of recent history you’re actually talking about games.

Young people may have a lot of things to be forgiven for (like trying to grow beards and looking silly), but not knowing the holy scriptures of gaming is hardly one of them.

(trollface) #19

[QUOTE=YoungGuns;289905]So I suggest we start a new big thread called - I hate BRINK because it’s not “enter random game here” - so there wouldn’t have to be a new thread every few days. :stroggtapir:

oh, and a big lol at the Crysis comparison. loved that one.[/QUOTE]Or maybe one that says: Reading comprehension for dummies: Part 1.

(dazman76) #20

[QUOTE=Etek;289891]There’s a major difference between cloning something and taking inspiration from. And Blizzard admitted they have no idea where they would be without Tolkien.

But, as always, history is written by the ones still standing so…[/QUOTE]

Indeed, it wasn’t a dig at Blizzard - just a reflection on the feelings of (some of) their playerbase - mostly the younger players, I’d say. It’s the crap you see if you actually dare to visit the official WoW forums, for example. For anyone who’s never done that - best to keep it that way :slight_smile:

However, to say Blizzard only “took inspiration” from Tolkien is a bit like saying Bin Laden “wasn’t that fond of the west” :slight_smile: Same goes for GW, too, and most other proponents of fantasy since Tolkien. So much was lifted with almost no changes, that I’m surprised they didn’t just take the names of lands and characters, and use those too. In some cases, they almost did :slight_smile:

(CVIChEK) #21

If you compare a game to tf2 and say that that is good, you should just stop playing games.
Brink is not like tf2 at all. Classes are different, gameplay is different, HUD is different, Brink will actually keep it’s art style and sense, not like tf2, it also won’t have an cash shop, unlike tf2 where all you need to do is get your mommies credit card and sudenly you have more hp/can’t be headshoted/can stay cloaked for more time etc. Brink also won’t be so buggy and glitchy as tf2.
SO **** OFF AND STOP INSULTING SPLASH DAMAGE BY COMPARING THEIR GAME TO VALVES!!!

(dazman76) #22

[QUOTE=trollface;289913]What’s ridiculous is that with your dramatic claims to protect the truth of recent history you’re actually talking about games.

Young people may have a lot of things to be forgiven for (like trying to grow beards and looking silly), but not knowing the holy scriptures of gaming is hardly one of them.[/QUOTE]

Wow, where did that come from? :slight_smile: My mention of “forgiving” was simply a turn of phrase - what do you think I am, some kind of Christian game-loving crusader? “holy scriptures”? I think if you’re looking for drama, you could try the mirror :slight_smile: You currently have hold of the “wrong end of the stick”, congratulations. Amazing that you then went on to mention “reading comprehension” in reply to someone else’s post - the irony meter is currently melting.

(brbrbr) #23

please nothing “from TF2” in Brink.
if [which is very unlikely]i wish TF2, i buy it, instead of Brink.

(Vanchatron) #24

I think I’m in the minority here but I just didn’t like TF2. Whilst this game “looks” sort of like TF2, I can tell straight away that it’s far more in depth than it & for that reason it’s going to be amazing.

Can’t wait. :stroggtapir:

(sham) #25

[QUOTE=Vanchatron;289983]I think I’m in the minority here but I just didn’t like TF2. Whilst this game “looks” sort of like TF2, I can tell straight away that it’s far more in depth than it & for that reason it’s going to be amazing.

Can’t wait. :stroggtapir:[/QUOTE]

I must be in that same minority tbh. Never even occurred to me to think it was anything like TF2.

I suppose there are similarities when you think about it. They’re both computer games. That’s gotta be a big one. :stuck_out_tongue:

(InternetsWrong) #26

The hate towards TF2 in this thread is a bit… uncalled for first off. The comparisons that people and more importantly media outlets are going to make are valid from a consumer standpoint. TF Classic was the genesis of class-based fps games. TF2 is by all accounts its “spiritual” successor with a myriad of new additions (that some may or may not like).

The younger crowd lets say those born post-DOOM era have never played any of the so called benchmarks of fps games (eg. TF, DOOM, Tribes, Quake, Unreal etc). You should be happy and welcome positive comparisons to TF2 or any other game that is a critical success. The average consumer doesn’t do heavy research and nothing sells a game faster than “Its got a good review and they say its better than TF2…”.

Lastly as for most of the comparisons not being valid wake up. “How does this Electric guitar compare to this Acoustic one?”. Both are the same instrument but with completely different qualities yet comparing them in many cases will be valid, and the same goes for Brink (especially in any case concerning the average consumer).

(Kurushi) #27

I like TF2. Under the right conditions. The problem is it tries to please everyone, rewarding luck over skill (in before ‘u butthurt?’)

I wouldn’t really call TF2 an objective based shooter though like Brink, ET and ETQW. Brink will have a much bigger focus on missions rather than ‘go make your own fun lol’. TF2 can be a very selfish game (in before blame the player not the game ;))

I expect Brink to be aimed at more skilled players than your average TF2 player, with all respect. I think you will get a better experience from this and more teamwork.

I can’t really draw many comparisons between TF2 and Crysis 2 with Brink. SD look like they’re making what they’ve always made, the skill of a quake game mixed with strong objective based teamplay.

(dazman76) #28

You make some good points, but this one is pretty subjective really. Popularity doesn’t always equal quality, and it depends heavily on the observer in question. Millions of people in the UK read the Sun and Sport “newspapers” - does that mean they contain quality content that everyone should be reading? Hell no, it’s just a reflection on the state of humanity :slight_smile: Ahem…

Anyhow, what we’re discussing here (now, at least) is the topic of people’s opinions on TF2 - and people are quite welcome to hold whatever opinion they like, aren’t they? Within reason anyway. I personally cannot stand either Halo or Gears of War, but it seems millions of people disagree with me. Am I wrong? Not in my opinion - both are cheesy and hackneyed attempts at their respective genres that pale in comparison to other less successful games, and Gears seems to have been designed for 12 year olds. But hey, that’s just my opinion right? :slight_smile:

Popularity does not equal Quality.