New PC Hardware for Brink

(TONSCHUH) #41

[QUOTE=kilL_888;351274]@tonschuh.

i would recommend this tower:
http://www.corsair.com/cases/graphite-series/graphite-series-600t.html?utm_source=Corsair&utm_medium=Website&utm_content=600TBanner&utm_campaign=FrontPage

its one of the biggest mid towers out there. i personally like the look very much. from the looks i would prefer this thing over all other towers i know. its really beautiful and probably soon i have one of them for myself. :slight_smile:

i also would recommend a nvidia graphics card. ati is always cheaper, but when i comes to games, nvidia is top notch. 560ti should be it, or if you want to spend more money, 570. go for reference design with the 560ti. they are pretty silent. one of the best reference designs nvidia has ever done, according to a big german hardware forum.[/QUOTE]

… unfortunately not really common here (case) … that’s my old one: …

http://thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1227&ID=1423

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… will tell you the final config of the new Sys, if I have made the final decisions … :slight_smile:

… btw. I was living up to 11/2008 in Germany too … (Mannheim) … :wink:

:stroggtapir:

(Smoochy) #42

[QUOTE=TONSCHUH;351188]… if I try to be in the same price-range I could buy this one: …

GIGABYTE GTX560Ti SUPER OVERCLOCK 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Clock:950MHz GV-N560SO-1GI-950 => $ 285

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… or …

GIGABYTE GTX570 OVERCLOCK 1280MB GDDR5 Dual Dual-Link DVI HDMI Clock: 780 MHz GV-N570OC-13I => $ 375

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… can’t get a GTX480 at my favorite dealer …

… would be the GTX560 Ti much slower then the HD6950 ? … how important are the 1gb compared to the 2gb graphic memory ? …

… I think I will play mainly shooter games on the pc, because I want to buy an xbox too: …

http://www.ebgames.com.au/xbox360-154512-Microsoft-Xbox-360-320GB-Gears-of-War-3-Xbox-360

… I don’t know yet how much time I will spend with the xbox, but it’s more for games I can’t get for the pc and my wife wants to play the kinect games, so I recon that the pc will be still my favorite toy … next planned games are need for speed and maybe bodycount (not sure yet if I should pre-order it, because the reviews are not so good atm.) …

:stroggtapir:[/QUOTE]

i swapped my 6950 (flashed to 6970) as it hated brink. if you like brink i wouldnt advise ATI. the only issue is a comparible nvidia card is much more expensive. i now have a 580 and it loves brink! :slight_smile:

(TONSCHUH) #43

… Thx for the info ! … but there was someone complaining about the last NVIDIA driver update, somewhere in one of the threads, but I don’t really know the details … my last NVIDIA graphic card was something with MX … :slight_smile:

… I have changed plenty parts for the new Sys, but it’s still not final, as I don’t know if I should swap one hdd with a SSD and I’m still not sure about the power supply too, because everyone gives me a different advice about the watts … the range is from 550 Watts to 900 Watts, so I’m not sure yet what to do … when I read all the problems with SLI / CrossFire then I’m not sure anymore if I would put a second graphic card into the Sys or if it would be better just to buy a bigger one … maybe I should stay with normal hdd’s and spend some money on a better graphic card or just keep it like it is … ok, maybe only a power supply with ~700 Watts, what was my first choice …

… that are the part’s after I overlooked everything and listened to some other guy’s: …

AEROCOOL STRIKE-X Black/Red High Performance Gaming Case Japanese Steel 2x12cm / 1x 14cm Fan => $ 129

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AEROCOOL SHARK 120mm Red Fluid Bearing 14 Blades => 3 x $ 25 = $ 75

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ZALMAN ZM-STG1 Super Thermal Grease => $ 12

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ASUS P8P67 REV3.0 Intel P67 Chipset DDR3 2200Mhz (OC 32GB MAX) ATX 8Channel HDAudio SATA3 USB 3.0 => $ 183

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INTEL CORE i7 2600K 3.40Ghz 8MB CACHE 95W LGA1155 => $ 325

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THERMALTAKE FRIO OCK CPU Cooler CPU Support Intel LGA1366/1155/775 AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2 CLP0575 => $ 89

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CORSAIR TwinX3 2gig x 2 (4 Gig) DDR3 XMS3-1600C8 1600mhz Model: CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 => 2 x $ 69 = $ 138

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ANTEC TruePower QUATTRO 1000watt PSU EPS SLI-Ready Model: TPQ-1000 => $ 229

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LG 22x DVD+/-R Burner SATA Model: GH22NS70 DUAL LAYER BLACK => $ 27

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GIGABYTE GTX560Ti SUPER OVERCLOCK 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Clock:950MHz GV-N560SO-1GI-950 => $ 285

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SeaGate 1TB 7200rpm SATA-3 32meg Cache Barracuda 7200.12 Model: ST31000524AS => 2 x $ 59 = $ 118

SATA 60cm LENGTH Data Cable connect SATA Device to motherboard => 3 x $ 5 = $ 15

Sum: $ 1625 (Australian Dollar)

… as I lived in Germany I had more choices, but in Australia the clocks are ticking a little bit different … but I’m still lucky to have GameDude in my area … could be worse … :slight_smile:

:stroggtapir:

(Smoochy) #44

[QUOTE=TONSCHUH;351587]… Thx for the info ! … but there was someone complaining about the last NVIDIA driver update, somewhere in one of the threads, but I don’t really know the details … my last NVIDIA graphic card was something with MX … :slight_smile:

… I have changed plenty parts for the new Sys, but it’s still not final, as I don’t know if I should swap one hdd with a SSD and I’m still not sure about the power supply too, because everyone gives me a different advice about the watts … the range is from 550 Watts to 900 Watts, so I’m not sure yet what to do … when I read all the problems with SLI / CrossFire then I’m not sure anymore if I would put a second graphic card into the Sys or if it would be better just to buy a bigger one … maybe I should stay with normal hdd’s and spend some money on a better graphic card or just keep it like it is … ok, maybe only a power supply with ~700 Watts, what was my first choice …

… that are the part’s after I overlooked everything and listened to some other guy’s: …

AEROCOOL STRIKE-X Black/Red High Performance Gaming Case Japanese Steel 2x12cm / 1x 14cm Fan => $ 129

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AEROCOOL SHARK 120mm Red Fluid Bearing 14 Blades => 3 x $ 25 = $ 75

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ZALMAN ZM-STG1 Super Thermal Grease => $ 12

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ASUS P8P67 REV3.0 Intel P67 Chipset DDR3 2200Mhz (OC 32GB MAX) ATX 8Channel HDAudio SATA3 USB 3.0 => $ 183

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INTEL CORE i7 2600K 3.40Ghz 8MB CACHE 95W LGA1155 => $ 325

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THERMALTAKE FRIO OCK CPU Cooler CPU Support Intel LGA1366/1155/775 AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2 CLP0575 => $ 89

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CORSAIR TwinX3 2gig x 2 (4 Gig) DDR3 XMS3-1600C8 1600mhz Model: CMX4GX3M2A1600C8 => 2 x $ 69 = $ 138

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ANTEC TruePower QUATTRO 1000watt PSU EPS SLI-Ready Model: TPQ-1000 => $ 229

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LG 22x DVD+/-R Burner SATA Model: GH22NS70 DUAL LAYER BLACK => $ 27

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GIGABYTE GTX560Ti SUPER OVERCLOCK 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Clock:950MHz GV-N560SO-1GI-950 => $ 285

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SeaGate 1TB 7200rpm SATA-3 32meg Cache Barracuda 7200.12 Model: ST31000524AS => 2 x $ 59 = $ 118

SATA 60cm LENGTH Data Cable connect SATA Device to motherboard => 3 x $ 5 = $ 15

Sum: $ 1625 (Australian Dollar)

… as I lived in Germany I had more choices, but in Australia the clocks are ticking a little bit different … but I’m still lucky to have GameDude in my area … could be worse … :slight_smile:

:stroggtapir:[/QUOTE]

if you didnt want to splash for an SSD (makes windows feel much faster & apps etc) you could always get 2 SATA HDDs and raid them. bascially you can have lots of different types of raid but what they essentially do it let you use 2HDDs to do the job of one. you have a backup drive if one fails (possibility) and read spead is improved as it gets the data from the 2 drives simultaneously, meaning its faster.

(TONSCHUH) #45

@Smoochy

… the problem is, that I have no idea, if it would be still a big improvement with an SSD if I put my games still on a SATA-3-Seagate … I’ve never seen a SSD in action … the last time I used RAID was ~1999 as I worked with NT-4-Server … :rolleyes:

… could I have two separate RAID’s (2 x 2 HDD) with the Asus-P8P67 or would I need another controller ? … I want to keep the games separate from the rest …

… beside little things like CPU / Case / Fan’s etc., this should be the upcoming Sys: …

Case:

AEROCOOL STRIKE-X Black/Red High Performance Gaming Case Japanese Steel 2x12cm / 1x 14cm Fan => $ 129

Case-Fan’s:

AEROCOOL SHARK 120mm Red Fluid Bearing 14 Blades => 3 x $ 25 = $ 75

Power-Supply:

ANTEC (USA) 750watt TRUE POWER NEW 120mm Fan Model: TP-750 => $ 144

Motherboard:

ASUS P8P67 REV3.0 Intel P67 Chipset DDR3 2200Mhz (OC 32GB MAX) ATX 8Channel HDAudio SATA3 USB 3.0 => $ 183

CPU (if I’m able to get a 2500K , then I will swap the 2600K):

INTEL CORE i7 2600K 3.40Ghz 8MB CACHE 95W LGA1155 => $325

CPU-Cooler:
THERMALTAKE FRIO OCK CPU Cooler CPU Support Intel LGA1366/1155/775 AMD AM3/AM2+/AM2 CLP0575 => $ 89

RAM:

CORSAIR QUAD XMS3 2gig x 4 (8 Gig) DDR3 XMS3-1333C9 1333mhz Model: CMX8GX3M4A1333C9 => $ 99

Graphic Card:

GIGABYTE GTX560Ti OVERCLOCK 1024MB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI Clock:900MHz Model:GV-N560OC-1GI => $ 239

HDD:

SeaGate 1TB 7200rpm SATA-3 32meg Cache Barracuda 7200.12 Model: ST31000524AS => $ 59

SSD:

OCZ Vertex3 120GB SSD Read / Write 550/500MB/S SandForce Controller 2.5inch SATA VTX3-25SAT3-120G => $ 289

DVD-Burner:

LG 22x DVD+/-R Burner SATA Model: GH22NS70 DUAL LAYER BLACK => $ 27

SATA-Cable:

SATA 60cm LENGTH Data Cable connect SATA Device to motherboard => 3 x $ 5 = $ 15


Sum: $ 1673

… will let you know how the Sys runs with BRINK (~ 2-4 Weeks) … :wink:

:stroggtapir:

(Smoochy) #46

[QUOTE=TONSCHUH;351645]@Smoochy

… the problem is, that I have no idea, if it would be still a big improvement with an SSD if I put my games still on a SATA-3-Seagate … I’ve never seen a SSD in action … the last time I used RAID was ~1999 as I worked with NT-4-Server … :rolleyes:

… could I have two separate RAID’s (2 x 2 HDD) with the Asus-P8P67 or would I need another controller ? … I want to keep the games separate from the rest …[/QUOTE]

hmm, not 100% sure but i dont see whay you cant raid 2 HDDs that have partitions. in fact i know you can do it as ive had servers setup with 4 disk RAID arrays before.

almost all motherboards have raid these days. you just plug in 2 drives and setup in the bios

you should see a speed improvement and you have a backup drive if 1 fails (since the 2 drives hold the same data) and are seen as a single drive in windows.

SSD is nice, i managed to get a 64gig one free :wink: windows boot times are much faster now and my PC feels much more responsive now. i guess its like going from a 1Ghz to a 2Ghz CPU?

i know game impact will be minimal unles you are constantly loading textures etc. but some games do work like that. maybe not FPS as all the map should be loaded into RAM but on games like fallout where its constantly loading the map in sections should see a decent improvement.

(TONSCHUH) #47

[QUOTE=Smoochy;351703]hmm, not 100% sure but i dont see whay you cant raid 2 HDDs that have partitions. in fact i know you can do it as ive had servers setup with 4 disk RAID arrays before.

almost all motherboards have raid these days. you just plug in 2 drives and setup in the bios

you should see a speed improvement and you have a backup drive if 1 fails (since the 2 drives hold the same data) and are seen as a single drive in windows.

SSD is nice, i managed to get a 64gig one free :wink: windows boot times are much faster now and my PC feels much more responsive now. i guess its like going from a 1Ghz to a 2Ghz CPU?

i know game impact will be minimal unles you are constantly loading textures etc. but some games do work like that. maybe not FPS as all the map should be loaded into RAM but on games like fallout where its constantly loading the map in sections should see a decent improvement.[/QUOTE]

… ok, thx for the info ! … as I had to “donate” some money to my wife and as I had trouble to get the parts I wanted to have, I ended up with the following sys: …

  • 2600K
  • 2x 4gb - 1333 - CL8 - Corsair
  • GTX570-OC - Gigabyte
  • no SSD
  • 2x 1gb - SATA-3 - Seagate’s
  • 750W - Antec True Power
  • THERMALTAKE FRIO OCK - CPU-Cooler
  • Case + Fan’s

… the first amazing thing is this: …

… stable @ ~68 => BurnInTest v6.0 => MaxHeat-Bench: …

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… but I only run it like this: …

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… with 1920 x 1080 and all graphic settings up to the max., I get ~70 FPS … with the same resolution, but everything advanced turned off, I get ~200 FPS … :smiley:

… the game is finally playable … :stroggbanana:

:stroggtapir:

(Smoochy) #48

[QUOTE=TONSCHUH;355812]… ok, thx for the info ! … as I had to “donate” some money to my wife and as I had trouble to get the parts I wanted to have, I ended up with the following sys: …

  • 2600K
  • 2x 4gb - 1333 - CL8 - Corsair
  • GTX570-OC - Gigabyte
  • no SSD
  • 2x 1gb - SATA-3 - Seagate’s
  • 750W - Antec True Power
  • THERMALTAKE FRIO OCK - CPU-Cooler
  • Case + Fan’s

… the first amazing thing is this: …

… stable @ ~68 => BurnInTest v6.0 => MaxHeat-Bench: …

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… but I only run it like this: …

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… with 1920 x 1080 and all graphic settings up to the max., I get ~70 FPS … with the same resolution, but everything advanced turned off, I get ~200 FPS … :smiley:

… the game is finally playable … :stroggbanana:

:stroggtapir:[/QUOTE]

nice one mate. its so nice to play with all the eye candy and acceptable frame rates. i actually find gaming harder with stuff like antialiasing on and shadows, but i just love the eye candy :slight_smile:

btw - you got the 2600k overclocked? they can push 4.6 - 4.8GHz with the right air cooling!

(TONSCHUH) #49

[QUOTE=Smoochy;355825]nice one mate. its so nice to play with all the eye candy and acceptable frame rates. i actually find gaming harder with stuff like antialiasing on and shadows, but i just love the eye candy :slight_smile:

btw - you got the 2600k overclocked? they can push 4.6 - 4.8GHz with the right air cooling![/QUOTE]

… Thx! … I don’t like some extra’s like motion blur etc. too … I have still to install some software, but tomorrow I will be back playing BRINK …

… run the 2600K @ ~ 4.4 GHz, but got it stable up to @ ~ 5.0GHz … :slight_smile:

(Smoochy) #50

[QUOTE=TONSCHUH;355844]… Thx! … I don’t like some extra’s like motion blur etc. too … I have still to install some software, but tomorrow I will be back playing BRINK …

… run the 2600K @ ~ 4.4 GHz, but got it stable up to @ ~ 5.0GHz … :)[/QUOTE]

ahh, dont say that lol. im tempted to upgrade myself. i still think i can get an OK price on ebay for my q9550 + mobo + ram.

ive just made an extra £1k this month and its burning a hole in my pocket! i know i should save for the baby arriving but i just want more toys! arghhhhh

(TONSCHUH) #51

[QUOTE=Smoochy;355852]ahh, dont say that lol. im tempted to upgrade myself. i still think i can get an OK price on ebay for my q9550 + mobo + ram.

ive just made an extra £1k this month and its burning a hole in my pocket! i know i should save for the baby arriving but i just want more toys! arghhhhh[/QUOTE]

… :slight_smile: … I know what you mean, but if you have already a good base system, then maybe it will be not as expensive as a complete re-build … :wink:

(Smoochy) #52

i think swapping over to i7 sb would only cost me about £200. maybe wait till the next series of i7s come out as i havent found anything i cant handle at max everything yet.

i downloaded quake wars last night and i get that on ultra everything 16x AA and 32xFSAA :slight_smile: even bc2 i can handle max FSAA and AA.

but you know, sometimes you just wanna buy stuff! :slight_smile:

(TONSCHUH) #53

[QUOTE=Smoochy;355872]i think swapping over to i7 sb would only cost me about £200. maybe wait till the next series of i7s come out as i havent found anything i cant handle at max everything yet.

i downloaded quake wars last night and i get that on ultra everything 16x AA and 32xFSAA :slight_smile: even bc2 i can handle max FSAA and AA.

but you know, sometimes you just wanna buy stuff! :)[/QUOTE]

… yes … I couldn’t get fast enough to the shop too … :slight_smile:

(FireWorks) #54

Glad you got a rig that fits your liking :slight_smile:

On a side note, I think it’s so funny that some persuit the best grafics while other try to turn them down to the absolute minimum. Usually the later are the ones with the frags :smiley:

(Smoochy) #55

[QUOTE=FireWorks;355901]Glad you got a rig that fits your liking :slight_smile:

On a side note, I think it’s so funny that some persuit the best grafics while other try to turn them down to the absolute minimum. Usually the later are the ones with the frags :D[/QUOTE]

go look at my stats :slight_smile:

i love the eye candy but it does make it harder. i just dont want games to feel like im still on an amiga/psx :slight_smile:

(FireWorks) #56

A youre funny!

Go check my stats too then :wink:

(taodemon) #57

If you have a microcenter nearby they are usually the cheapest place for cpus, a 2600k is $279.99 there.

(Throbblefoot) #58

This is Throbblefoot, hiding in the blind while Jimmy pokes at his massive RAM sticks and arcane CPU-seating technology. The subject seems relatively calm, with the merest muttering and calls of “WTF is that thing…?” and “meatball surgery!” With any luck, he’ll be “applying lightning to the monster” in the morning.

Stay tuned!

-Throbblefoot

(FireWorks) #59

Throbblefoor, you really have the funnies posts in these forums :smiley:

(TONSCHUH) #60

[QUOTE=Throbblefoot;356317]This is Throbblefoot, hiding in the blind while Jimmy pokes at his massive RAM sticks and arcane CPU-seating technology. The subject seems relatively calm, with the merest muttering and calls of “WTF is that thing…?” and “meatball surgery!” With any luck, he’ll be “applying lightning to the monster” in the morning.

Stay tuned!

-Throbblefoot[/QUOTE]

… :slight_smile: … I will suck you out of your blind spot with my extremely sucking CPU turbine … :slight_smile: