New Merc: Guardian

(OwynTyler) #81

Still this doesn’t fix the explosives spam issue, naders nades still oneshot squishy mercs and she has 5 (!!!) of em replenishing pretty fast to spam

(OwynTyler) #82

@woodchip said:
It’s going to be like Turtle shield on the Vault machine gun, but now in the entirety of Chapel, Trainyard, etc. On the maps where this is strong, it will be so strong that a Kira will be almost required.

Now imagine Underground where laser doesn’t work… :’(

(TheStrangerous) #83

Where’s Phantom’s throwable EMP device (preferably EMP knife), when you need it?

(neverplayseriou) #84

@TheStrangerous said:
Where’s Phantom’s throwable EMP device (preferably EMP knife), when you need it?

Yea lets make a projectile against a trophy system that destroys projectiles…

(Sithas) #85

I´m happy that the new merc doesnt have a one-shot ability, it being a medic is a nice bonus

(TheStrangerous) #86

@neverplayseriou said:

@TheStrangerous said:
Where’s Phantom’s throwable EMP device (preferably EMP knife), when you need it?

Yea lets make a projectile against a trophy system that destroys projectiles…

Just anything EMP related, working at a distance.

He still has his phone though.

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Hacking would be nice, beats EMP field.

#87

Hmm…interesting! A medic who is given access to atleast one assault rifle but can’t health at the same time is something we haven’t seen yet. Her potential in-game can be argued about but I think you need to have played with and against her first to form a real opinion.

(watsyurdeal) #88

I think she’s gonna be pretty balanced. The way the Meta is Sawbonez is always gonna be a dominant force, a Medic like this will allow some secondary functionality to keep the push going.

For me that’s the best thing about her, no more Arty Spam being a major problem.

(Wolven) #89

@Kirays said:
[…]I think you need to have played with and against her first to form a real opinion.
But, but, then the arguments will be based on facts and evidence, and not speculation and biased opinions, where’s the fun in that?

(watsyurdeal) #90

How I imagine these forums, every time a new merc is announced

(Teflon Love) #91

@Lord_Coctus said:

@scrub_lord said:
My prediction

You forgot about EV protection.

Also on Underground while defusing the C4 on the platform, a combination of Turtle shield to protect from snipers and a Guardian shield to protect from Arty etc seems useful.

(TheStrangerous) #92

@watsyurdeal said:
How I imagine these forums, every time a new merc is announced

-snep-

FTFY

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Basically sums up this thread as well.

(Sorotia) #93

@TheStrangerous said:

@neverplayseriou said:

@TheStrangerous said:
Where’s Phantom’s throwable EMP device (preferably EMP knife), when you need it?

Yea lets make a projectile against a trophy system that destroys projectiles…

Just anything EMP related, working at a distance.

He still has his phone though.

Hacking would be nice, beats EMP field.

Someone like Sombra? :smiley:

(TheStrangerous) #94

@Sorotia said:

Someone like Sombra? :smiley:

Son, I’m disappoint.
I was expecting Watch_Dogs joke :frowning:

(Sorotia) #95

@TheStrangerous said:

@Sorotia said:

Someone like Sombra? :smiley:

Son, I’m disappoint.
I was expecting Watch_Dogs joke :frowning:

Never played it >.>

(Meerkats) #96

My concern right now is how Dirty Bomb seems to be straying down the path of MOBA with pick / counterpick mechanics like Overwatch.

I get it; arguably, Dirty Bomb has always had this mechanic. Aura station got you feeling down? Pineapple or two will sort you right out. That’s the power of vitamin C. But frags don’t exist specifically as a counter. Most problems in Dirty Bomb can be solved via liberal application of frags. Proxy harassing your medic? Apply frag to Proxy. Or bullets. Bullets tend to also work pretty well. Preferably when deposited into the face region.

Javelin is a bit different. Yes, rockets are effective against everybody. Shocking, I know. But see, rockets are specifically effective against Rhino.

And now, we have Guardian. Highly effective vs. Nader, Fragger, Skyhammer, Javelin and Thunder. Questionable value vs. everybody else. That’s called a counterpick. And again, I get it. When does the opposition not have a Nader or a Fragger? In practice, she’s not that really that situational. Additionally, she doesn’t actually prevent say Javelin from shitting all over your teammate with Dreiss.

But again, I have concerns about the design of the latest mercs, some of which have very obvious mechanics designed to specifically counter specific other mercs.

Like I’ve said before, I’m of the opinion Dirty Bomb has more than enough mercs and has had more than enough mercs for a long time now. Since Stoker in fact.

(Sorotia) #97

@Meerkats said:
My concern right now is how Dirty Bomb seems to be straying down the path of MOBA with pick / counterpick mechanics like Overwatch.

I get it; arguably, Dirty Bomb has always had this mechanic. Aura station got you feeling down? Pineapple or two will sort you right out. That’s the power of vitamin C. But frags don’t exist specifically as a counter. Most problems in Dirty Bomb can be solved via liberal application of frags. Proxy harassing your medic? Apply frag to Proxy. Or bullets. Bullets tend to also work pretty well. Preferably when deposited into the face region.

Javelin is a bit different. Yes, rockets are effective against everybody. Shocking, I know. But see, rockets are specifically effective against Rhino.

And now, we have Guardian. Highly effective vs. Nader, Fragger, Skyhammer, Javelin and Thunder. Questionable value vs. everybody else. That’s called a counterpick. And again, I get it. When does the opposition not have a Nader or a Fragger? In practice, she’s not that really that situational. Additionally, she doesn’t actually prevent say Javelin from shitting all over your teammate with Dreiss.

But again, I have concerns about the design of the latest mercs, some of which have very obvious mechanics designed to specifically counter specific other mercs.

Like I’ve said before, I’m of the opinion Dirty Bomb has more than enough mercs and has had more than enough mercs for a long time now. Since Stoker in fact.

Maybe people want new stuff?

Because you know that 1 1/2 year drought DB had did wonders for the population of the game.

Now that the game is getting some TLC we’re starting to see more new players, I wonder why?

(neverplayseriou) #98

idk what game you’ve been playing @Sorotia but the average amount of players is almost as low again as february this year.

All SD is gonna do by pushing out this broken content is kill their game.

(GatoCommodore) #99

@Meerkats you know the rockets can be shot down by wall of lead the minigun is shooting?

(ive been doing this for the past 3 days)
(its consistent enough that you can counter javelin head-on)

currently nobody in the game are hard-counter to anyone specific and any aura or skyhammer can shi t on anyone providing they have the basic knowledge and the skill required to operate the merc

(Sorotia) #100

@GatoCommodore said:
@Meerkats you know the rockets can be shot down by wall of lead the minigun is shooting?

(ive been doing this for the past 3 days)
(its consistent enough that you can counter javelin head-on)

currently nobody in the game are hard-counter to anyone specific and any aura or skyhammer can shi t on anyone providing they have the basic knowledge and the skill required to operate the merc

Use tactics and skill? Impossible!

It’s just easier to call everything OP and cry for nerf, sometimes before things are even released.> @neverplayseriou said:

idk what game you’ve been playing @Sorotia but the average amount of players is almost as low again as february this year.

All SD is gonna do by pushing out this broken content is kill their game.

Oh wise mystic? Can you give me the powerball numbers…since you can obviously see the future and you know exactly how her powers will work before she is even released.