Need Help Setting Up My New Graphic Card!

MADDOG · 2004-04-25 05:30:59 UTC

PLEASE HELP ME!

I just got a new graphic card its a PNY GeForce fx5200 128mb AGP8x. I have some probs running games with it. I went to play ET, BF1942, MOHAA, etc. and when I put my Volume up or down (this shows on my screen) my screen flickers and my FPS go from 40 to 0. Also i only get 30 to 40 fps on maps. I just talked to someone running same card as me and they are getting 230 fps. Can someone please help me setup my graphic card because i am really getting pissed off trying to fix it, and i cant.

I am running a Windows Me OS, 1.3 GHZ 256mb Of RDram. I just swaped this new Card with my old 32mb card and i am really serious about this but my old 32mb was running alot better then this new pieace of fucking shit i just got. I was getting 50 to 60 on maps and my screen did not flicker nor did my FPS drope to 0 on a random basis.

Please help me out i am really hopping to get some good help!

MADDOG · 2004-04-25 06:11:01 UTC

Also i need someone to help me overclock my graphic card.

Sauron_EFG · 2004-04-25 09:54:51 UTC

I just talked to someone running same card as me and they are getting 230 fps.

I really doubt that they get 230 FPS with that card unless they are staring at a wall.

MadJack · 2004-04-25 10:24:35 UTC

I get that but I use a Radeon 9800 Pro (128). Mostly it’s around 150 so… You’ve been fed some Bsh!t… (No VIS in my map with over 40000 tris I run it at 120)

As for the card… First, do NOT use the +/- volume on the keyboard. ANY game will flicker. Use the speaker’s dial button for that. Another thing… Windows ME is pure crap. You probably won’t get better FPS with that POS. XP is MUCH better at gaming than any Winblows platform period.

That will get you started… As for OC’ing, make the thing work correctly first before thinking about OC’ing. It’s probably unstable enough as it is.

If you REALLY want to OC, do like I did, get yourself a watercooler and crank that thing up.

I’m not responsible for ANYTHING! You’ve been warned

MADDOG · 2004-04-25 19:30:58 UTC

Ok thanks, But I looked at my Bus and its only running at 4xAGP and the card can be ran at 8xAGP can you help me find my Bios settings so i can make my Motherboard use all of the Graphics card Bus to 8x.

Domipheus · 2004-04-25 21:00:20 UTC

rtfm

WolfWings · 2004-04-25 21:10:42 UTC

AGP 8x won’t make any worthwhile difference. Prioritize. Get your system running well before you even think about or waste your time overclocking. Hell, don’t even waste your time overclocking, get the machine to a ‘sweet spot’ and keep it there, better to have a rock-solid frame-rate than one that happens to ‘occasionally’ fly in the high triple-digits.

In fact, the only thing AGP really helps with noticably is the time to load textures and data onto your video card. With Q3A-based games, like Enemy Territory and RTCW, that’s effectively no help at all since they don’t generate ‘dynamic’ textures like the Unreal-based games often do.

Yes, AGP can affect things, as texture data isn’t the only thing sent across, but it’s going to affect things less than upgrading your CPU, or getting a better motherboard would, or even a better monitor so you can actually see a higher framerate, which should indicate how low in the priorities it is. Hell, I’ve seen replacing memory with a better brand improve things in a machine a lot more than enabling AGP 4x helped, and that was on a machine that initially had AGP disabled until we installed the proper drivers for it. And yes, we tried all four combinations of AGP and Memory Brand.

Domipheus · 2004-04-25 21:54:59 UTC

em, agp8x actually will make a diff if the rest of his system is good enuf. did in my machine anyway.

MadJack · 2004-04-26 00:05:19 UTC

@ Domi, I agree but considering MADDOG’s setup as of now I tend to go on WolfWings’s side. It’s of absolutely no use to enable 8x when he can barely run the card.

@MADDOG, first make sure your motherboard support 8x… Not all MOBO do. Depends on its age mostly. As for the rest, well, get a decent OS then we’ll check how things go from there. Oh and yes, do RTFM…

WolfWings · 2004-04-26 02:21:57 UTC

Yes, it can make a difference, but so can upgrading your memory or even replacing your hard drive in some cases. It all depends on where the bottleneck is, and on the vast majority of systems out there, the AGP bus is not the bottleneck in any way, shape, or form.

More often the CPU speed, memory, and video card, in that order, will give a much more noticable boost than trying to enable AGP. AGP is one of the ‘fine adjustment’ parts of a system, that you fiddle with after everything else is up to snuff and working flawlessly. Just like you don’t blueprint a cars engine to improve the horsepower if it needs new shocks and a fresh set of tires.

Power is useless without the balance to wield it.

shazmax · 2004-04-26 03:25:36 UTC

Disable vsync

Schaffer · 2004-04-26 06:18:44 UTC

Have you installed the latest Nvidia drivers? Did you do a reformat.

Windows ME (WTF?) :weird: . Get a descent OS

I’m running a fairliy simillar spec (Athlon C 1.3G, 512Mb SD RAM, MSI GeForce FX 5200 128Mb, etc) running W2K with latest drivers and I typically get between 60 and 90 FPS at 800x600 res without any tweaking. When I look at a wall then I can get upto about 110FPS

Since you are getting a problem with the volumn change I wonder if the two cards are trying to use the same interupt or memory. Make sure that the OS is controlling the allocation of resourcse by setting this in the BIOS (can’t remember which page its on but the same one as to clear the interupts).

Don’t even think about overclocking until you get you other problems fixed as it’s pointless. You used to be able to set the momeory and core speeds through the display properties but this dosne’t seem to be an option. Just do a search on Google using:


nvidia +fx +"5200" +overclock

and you will get a heap of info

MadJack · 2004-04-26 07:38:59 UTC

I wouldn’t have thought the echo of our posts would get to Australia so soon Schaffer lol

Maddog, you see, we’re all telling you the same thing For once, we get a concensus

<boasting>I didn’t mention it before but I get over 300 staring at a wall at 1024x768 75 MHz refresh rate :P</boasting> LOL

Schaffer · 2004-04-26 07:46:25 UTC

Well I’m just sitting around on a Monday afternoon looking at post and playing Far Cry. Try getting a decent frame rate on that sucker

MadJack · 2004-04-26 09:16:03 UTC

Schaffer, I didn’t like Far Cry for the same reason I don’t like 1st person shooters with bots… They can see you even if you don’t see them. Foliage don’t stop bots from shooting/seeing you and that just pisses me off very badly.

The Far Cry I played was the beta and FPS wasn’t its bigger asset…

Domipheus · 2004-04-26 15:37:39 UTC

Yes, it can make a difference, but so can upgrading your memory or even replacing your hard drive in some cases. It all depends on where the bottleneck is, and on the vast majority of systems out there, the AGP bus is not the bottleneck in any way, shape, or form.

More often the CPU speed, memory, and video card, in that order, will give a much more noticable boost than trying to enable AGP. AGP is one of the ‘fine adjustment’ parts of a system, that you fiddle with after everything else is up to snuff and working flawlessly. Just like you don’t blueprint a cars engine to improve the horsepower if it needs new shocks and a fresh set of tires.

Power is useless without the balance to wield it.[/quote]

if you had read what you quoted, I said what you just repeated in 5% of the space

squadjot · 2004-04-26 15:47:02 UTC

Windows Me OS, 1.3 GHZ 256mb Of RDram - GeForce fx5200 128mb AGP8x …

probably CAN play games… i would buy completely new setup… i know thats a easy/stupid answer… but for ET…this would not be able to deliver a satisfying gaming experience for me…

whats yor L2 cache… 128kb?..ure doomed

pgh · 2004-04-26 16:12:30 UTC

2K > XP for gaming imo. Far less system hogging… :]

Domipheus · 2004-04-26 16:35:17 UTC

100% agree

MADDOG · 2004-04-26 19:00:42 UTC

Thanks a lot for your comments, I found the OC’ing program from Guru3d.com. And yes my Motherboard does support 8xAGP but it is set to 4x. I still only get 30 to 40 fps on Fuel dump outside! And inside I get only 50 to 60 FPS. I am having a hard time trying to find the Bios settings for my Card. Can someone please help me out?

O and Madjack can you tell me all of your specs and how you setup your card to work that way. Thanks!

Also my OS system is shit I agree but I can play any game I want. In ET I only get 150 ping on soem good servers and around 200 to 250 on others! And I use 56k! I am getting DSL in a month.

I also tried to install windows XP on my system a year ago and everything went well but on the same day of installing I went and downloaded all the newest drivers and then most of my programs where erased and did not work anymore.(they where all compatible with XP). Also my DVD and CDRW Burners and players where not working with the new drivers for XP OS. So I had to Re install my ME OS! I will go and try to reinstall the XP again on my system in a week when my bro gets back from his Vacation. SO hopefully I will have XP on my system in a week or 2.