More aimbot hackers?

(Ardez1) #81

I do hope you are trolling and not serious. But at the same time, please don’t troll.

The AC isn’t broken. It is more reactive then proactive. Just like every other AC program out there. Once the program being used to cheat is detected then they will be able to block it just like every single hack before it. Hacking happens in waves because a new program gets released. Then it gets detected and banned. Another new one is created after that. Then that one is detected and banned again. It is a cycle. Some basic research or history of playing games would tell you that is true.[/quote]

ofc i’m not serious. it was a direct reaction of Amerikas post. Irony != trolling.

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It comes through so well in text though(It doesn’t).

(yesser) #82

just today before the maintenance i got called aimbotter by a low lvl while i was playing vassili but i wasnt ;.; ( vassili v76 :wink: ) but aimbotter exist but i didnt see anyone in two weeks

(SkrubLord) #83

[quote=“Amerika;188589”][quote=“SkrubLord;188540”]Yet another blaten aimbot hacker today… This is the kind of @$!# I see almost every day now. SD, get your anti-cheat system togheter, or this will be the end of this game… http://i.imgur.com/r5vZjfX.jpg

@Amerika I know you are just a mod on the forums but I bet you have some kind of contact with the developers, is there anything you/we can do to get the attention we need to address this problem so they can see it? I won’t be playing this game anymore if this continues.
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[spoiler]Report them. They will be banned. The issue is that NGS and virtually every single anti-cheat out there has to know about a cheat, figure out a way to detect it on a users system without violating any laws/privacy rights based on the agreements of the users, be able to consistently pick up the cheat and then upload the detection elements to NGS. This takes time.

So what happens in this time is a new cheat with a new method of getting around detection will come out. Some people who love hanging out on these cheat websites so they can grief and do many other things in multiple MP games all decide to go cheat at one time to have a giggle. They get banned but do not care because this is a F2P game and they can make as many Steam accounts as they like. I’ve personally been involved with a particular person who has way more than 30 accounts.

So just because you see a cheater doesn’t mean the system isn’t working and you don’t need to post, “OMG I SAW ANOTHER CHEATER TODAY AFTER 20983098309 GAMES WITH NO CHEATERS…SYSTEM IS BROKE!!!”. If you see a ton of them in multiple games and they aren’t the same person then that is different…bring that up. But if you go 20-30 games without somebody cheating and then one pops up don’t immediately break down mentally and start being upset that NGS isn’t working, that SD/Nexon doesn’t care, that support is awful and everything else people come up with mentally.

Adjust your expectations and know how these cheat systems work. Do your part to help fix the problem and not just fan the flames of paranoia. And making public videos/forum post trying to “out” cheaters is also the worst thing you can do since most of the people cheating are griefers and they WANT THAT ATTENTION. Don’t give it to them. No anti-cheat on the planet catches every single cheater. I’ve talked about other layers of AC systems that DB could deploy potentially that works in conjunction with NGS and it’s possible those might become a reality at some point. And community servers will help a ton as well whenever those hit since communities will very quickly remove cheaters from their server more than random pubbers on a random server.[/quote]
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I’ve never said the anti-cheat system doesn’t work, but I’m concerned of this games security seeing so many hackers recently. Of course it takes time to stop new hacks and methods, but I’m hoping the people working with the NSG is aware of the recent increase. I don’t want to see this game get ruined by hackers that easily get around the security. And yes, I made this post because I’ve seen tons of hackers in my recent games (almost every 2/3 games). I’ve reported every hacker I’ve seen and hope they all get banned for life.

(Amerika) #84

[quote=“SkrubLord;188702”][quote=“Amerika;188589”][quote=“SkrubLord;188540”]Yet another blaten aimbot hacker today… This is the kind of @$!# I see almost every day now. SD, get your anti-cheat system togheter, or this will be the end of this game… http://i.imgur.com/r5vZjfX.jpg

@Amerika I know you are just a mod on the forums but I bet you have some kind of contact with the developers, is there anything you/we can do to get the attention we need to address this problem so they can see it? I won’t be playing this game anymore if this continues.
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[spoiler]Report them. They will be banned. The issue is that NGS and virtually every single anti-cheat out there has to know about a cheat, figure out a way to detect it on a users system without violating any laws/privacy rights based on the agreements of the users, be able to consistently pick up the cheat and then upload the detection elements to NGS. This takes time.

So what happens in this time is a new cheat with a new method of getting around detection will come out. Some people who love hanging out on these cheat websites so they can grief and do many other things in multiple MP games all decide to go cheat at one time to have a giggle. They get banned but do not care because this is a F2P game and they can make as many Steam accounts as they like. I’ve personally been involved with a particular person who has way more than 30 accounts.

So just because you see a cheater doesn’t mean the system isn’t working and you don’t need to post, “OMG I SAW ANOTHER CHEATER TODAY AFTER 20983098309 GAMES WITH NO CHEATERS…SYSTEM IS BROKE!!!”. If you see a ton of them in multiple games and they aren’t the same person then that is different…bring that up. But if you go 20-30 games without somebody cheating and then one pops up don’t immediately break down mentally and start being upset that NGS isn’t working, that SD/Nexon doesn’t care, that support is awful and everything else people come up with mentally.

Adjust your expectations and know how these cheat systems work. Do your part to help fix the problem and not just fan the flames of paranoia. And making public videos/forum post trying to “out” cheaters is also the worst thing you can do since most of the people cheating are griefers and they WANT THAT ATTENTION. Don’t give it to them. No anti-cheat on the planet catches every single cheater. I’ve talked about other layers of AC systems that DB could deploy potentially that works in conjunction with NGS and it’s possible those might become a reality at some point. And community servers will help a ton as well whenever those hit since communities will very quickly remove cheaters from their server more than random pubbers on a random server.[/quote]
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I’ve never said the anti-cheat system doesn’t work, but I’m concerned of this games security seeing so many hackers recently. Of course it takes time to stop new hacks and methods, but I’m hoping the people working with the NSG is aware of the recent increase. I don’t want to see this game get ruined by hackers that easily get around the security. And yes, I made this post because I’ve seen tons of hackers in my recent games (almost every 2/3 games). I’ve reported every hacker I’ve seen and hope they all get banned for life. [/quote]

They are very aware of it…it’s their job and directly related to how much income Nexon makes. Nexon does not want people quitting the game because of cheating as that is kind of bad for selling things. They have to worry about things like laws and privacy rights and morality though. Cheat makers/users don’t.

So you won’t see people you report instantly banned. So even if they are quickly banned, within a few hours, they can still do damage to public perception. And those that are banned will fire up a different Steam account but probably use the same name (why people insist the same person has been cheating on servers for days/weeks) since many of them are seeking attention due to them being griefers.

The people who make/update NGS and support aren’t sitting around drinking lattes all afternoon ignoring reports despite me reading people on this forum/elsewhere commonly infer exactly that.

(Black) #85

[quote=“KUST__LunarTM;188517”]-rant incoming-
It’s probably just me, but I feel like this growing riot against script kiddies has given way for low skill players to start throwing out baseless hackusations against those of a higher skill level, and quite frankly, I don’t appreciate that kind of behaviour in the slightest. It’s that same attitude that destroyed the Combat Arms community, and I sure as hell don’t want it starting here too.[/quote]

I’ve played CA for a couple of years back in the day and I loved it. Greatest online game that a potato laptop could run ever. But then their came the wave of hackers and it just flat our turned me off and ruined the game. The last game I joined was with the whole enemy team blatantly hacking. One guy was in the sky head shotting every one. Players were also telling you were they got their hacks from. Unbelievable.

The CA community was destroyed because the devs lacked updated security. The same can and will happen to dirty bomb if SD is not on top of their game.

(KUST__LunarTM) #86

[quote=“Black;188817”][quote=“KUST__LunarTM;188517”]-rant incoming-
It’s probably just me, but I feel like this growing riot against script kiddies has given way for low skill players to start throwing out baseless hackusations against those of a higher skill level, and quite frankly, I don’t appreciate that kind of behaviour in the slightest. It’s that same attitude that destroyed the Combat Arms community, and I sure as hell don’t want it starting here too.[/quote]

I’ve played CA for a couple of years back in the day and I loved it. Greatest online game that a potato laptop could run ever. But then their came the wave of hackers and it just flat our turned me off and ruined the game. The last game I joined was with the whole enemy team blatantly hacking. One guy was in the sky head shotting every one. Players were also telling you were they got their hacks from. Unbelievable.

The CA community was destroyed because the devs lacked updated security. The same can and will happen to dirty bomb if SD is not on top of their game.[/quote]

I won’t deny that CA had many waves of hackers in it’s lifetime, but Nexon’s security has vastly improved since then. You can see a list of all the hackers banned on their website, but you have to login to your account to see it.

The problem with the CA community is that the people have become so accustomed to hackers from when there were waves of hackers. Even now when hackers rarely make it in the game anymore, everyone is quick to call hacks on anyone who kills someone more than 3 times in a row, gets an Ultra/Fantastic or above, etc. There’s also the fact that nobody trusts anyone, and given the fact that SEMs exist, it turns into a game of seeing how many kids get pissed off at you and kick you from the room. 20 minute gameplay missions turn into an hour because of this.

My point is, complaining about hackers, real and fake, destroys a game’s community and how it is received to people outside the community. You wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve ever mentioned CA to my gamer friends only to get the response “Isn’t that game full of hackers?” -_-

So stop with all the damn hackusations! If you see a hacker, report him in-game, and let the people at SD take care of the rest. Don’t post threads all about your woes and butt hurts about hackers; it doesn’t help anyone in the slightest.

(Black) #87

[quote=“KUST__LunarTM;189038”][quote=“Black;188817”][quote=“KUST__LunarTM;188517”]-rant incoming-
It’s probably just me, but I feel like this growing riot against script kiddies has given way for low skill players to start throwing out baseless hackusations against those of a higher skill level, and quite frankly, I don’t appreciate that kind of behaviour in the slightest. It’s that same attitude that destroyed the Combat Arms community, and I sure as hell don’t want it starting here too.[/quote]

I’ve played CA for a couple of years back in the day and I loved it. Greatest online game that a potato laptop could run ever. But then their came the wave of hackers and it just flat our turned me off and ruined the game. The last game I joined was with the whole enemy team blatantly hacking. One guy was in the sky head shotting every one. Players were also telling you were they got their hacks from. Unbelievable.

The CA community was destroyed because the devs lacked updated security. The same can and will happen to dirty bomb if SD is not on top of their game.[/quote]

I won’t deny that CA had many waves of hackers in it’s lifetime, but Nexon’s security has vastly improved since then. You can see a list of all the hackers banned on their website, but you have to login to your account to see it.

The problem with the CA community is that the people have become so accustomed to hackers from when there were waves of hackers. Even now when hackers rarely make it in the game anymore, everyone is quick to call hacks on anyone who kills someone more than 3 times in a row, gets an Ultra/Fantastic or above, etc. There’s also the fact that nobody trusts anyone, and given the fact that SEMs exist, it turns into a game of seeing how many kids get pissed off at you and kick you from the room. 20 minute gameplay missions turn into an hour because of this.

My point is, complaining about hackers, real and fake, destroys a game’s community and how it is received to people outside the community. You wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve ever mentioned CA to my gamer friends only to get the response “Isn’t that game full of hackers?” -_-

So stop with all the damn hackusations! If you see a hacker, report him in-game, and let the people at SD take care of the rest. Don’t post threads all about your woes and butt hurts about hackers; it doesn’t help anyone in the slightest. [/quote]

Nexon’s security has vastly improved and I am grateful for that. However just like you said, when you mention CA to people they still believe the game is full of hackers because it took so long for nexon to fix it.

I agree hackers should report more and not just create threads about hackers.

Where I disagree is when I see other people say something along the lines of: “No one is hacking, you are just bad.” Telling other players that is not going to make anything better.

(AlphaUT) #88

So just because you see a cheater doesn’t mean the system isn’t working and you don’t need to post, “OMG I SAW ANOTHER CHEATER TODAY AFTER 20983098309 GAMES WITH NO CHEATERS…SYSTEM IS BROKE!!!”. If you see a ton of them in multiple games and they aren’t the same person then that is different…bring that up. But if you go 20-30 games without somebody cheating and then one pops up don’t immediately break down mentally and start being upset that NGS isn’t working, that SD/Nexon doesn’t care, that support is awful and everything else people come up with mentally.

This, people who just want to blame on or complain about NGS should stop just acting like a kid, and read this.

(watsyurdeal) #89

[quote=“Black;189081”]
Where I disagree is when I see other people say something along the lines of: “No one is hacking, you are just bad.” Telling other players that is not going to make anything better.[/quote]

Sorry but no, I actually think that’s the appropiate response. Because the vast majority of the time it’s just paranoia instead of actual hacks. Telling players they need to suck it up and improve means eventually they’ll see they can do the same things the so called hacker could do, and realize they were too hasty.

Really that is the best way to get hackusations to stop, is to get better at the game, and understand how they’re doing something, rather than blame it on a cheat.

(kopyright) #90

That’s just what an aimbotter would say.

(KUST__LunarTM) #91

I’m a chill person; I don’t mind if you play well, poorly, do silly things, tryhard, use op stuff, use up stuff; it really does not matter to me because it’s part of the game and you are enjoying playing the game in a way you find pleasing, which is what games are made for.

Unfortunately, hacks are to be expected in any game. @Amerika very clearly explained how anti cheat systems work, so you should know that any hack you see is generally a new hack that NGS has not adapted to yet. It’s like your own immune system. You’re gonna suffer a bit when you first get that flu, but your body will learn how to counter it and you’ll be immune from that strain of the flu for the rest of your life (hopefully). Hacks that make it into the game are like new strains of a flu that need to be analyzed and countered. Expecting all hacks to never appear in a game is like expecting the government to stop all crime before it happens. It’s impossible.

I’m sorry I’m at this again, but people casually throwing out hackusations just really pisses me off more than anything else in a game. Imagine an American Football game where the players would constantly accuse other players of being on illegal drugs because they were able to shake off a tackle and get a first down. Those players would look like complete idiots with poor sportsmanship.

Bad things are much more prominent than good things in our minds. People are going to remember the threads and rants from people complaining about “hackers” and subconsciously change ever so slightly to the point where they think a game is full of hackers despite having played hundreds of hours in the game themselves without seeing a single hacker.

THIS is how a community destroys a game from the inside out like a poison. Because it is a F2P FPS, anyone can play the game, and normally it will attract a large younger, adolescent audience with little to no money. I blame hormones, but teens are definitely not the most humble of players, nor are they the best negotiators and critical thinkers. P2P games will generally have a much more mature audience as the younger, adolescent players are much more unlikely to purchase a game than those who earn a living. But since DB is a F2P game, the audience cannot be helped… We can only hope that these people will somehow magically become mature and learn to understand that the unexpected doesn’t equal foul play.

(SkrubLord) #92

You haven’t played CoD have you? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Just kidding, you have a good point.

Before everyone gets crazy about the accusations-topic, I just want to point out that I didn’t make this thread to throw false hack-accusations at everyones faces, but too hear if people have experienced the same increase as me. (Make another thread if you are getting into a heated debate about it, it’s “off topic”.)I agree that people should be more careful who they call hackers, and it’s mostly young or new players that make these accusations when you kill them as you say. But when I see a guy killing 7 people with headshots in matter of seconds it’s kind of obvious that they are not ‘‘just good’’.

(KUST__LunarTM) #93

I kick any players from my room in CA if they calls hacks on anyone; zero tolerance for it. If it were up to me, I’d close any and all threads that consist mainly of pure complaining about hacking.

But that’s just me.

I’ve tossed in my two cents already; I’m just gonna leave it at that for now. Hopefully my point got across.

(watsyurdeal) #94

You haven’t played CoD have you? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Just kidding, you have a good point.

Before everyone gets crazy about the accusations-topic, I just want to point out that I didn’t make this thread to throw false hack-accusations at everyones faces, but too hear if people have experienced the same increase as me. (Make another thread if you are getting into a heated debate about it, it’s “off topic”.)I agree that people should be more careful who they call hackers, and it’s mostly young or new players that make these accusations when you kill them as you say. But when I see a guy killing 7 people with headshots in matter of seconds it’s kind of obvious that they are not ‘‘just good’’.

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Alright, we get it, when you do run into hacks, it sucks, totally understandable. But, I want two run two quick analogys by you and everyone else in this thread.

First one, the paparazzi, the media, the people who basically share intimate and private crap about everyday people, therefore creating a toxic society where everyone is getting into your personal business and making it public. It’s a freaking circus isn’t it? Well guess what, it’s a similar effect when you come on here and make these threads. You’re spreading rumors or this notion there are these hackers, and not just one, a lot of them. Everyday, constantly, what kind of image does that create? How many times do you think that leads to false accusations? All the time, because you’ve created a narrative that this game is infested with cheaters and these newer players eat it up. Because they don’t know any better. THAT is why when you have evidence, you report it privately here. You don’t need to make it public, all that does is give them attention, free advertisement for their “product”, and creates paranoia.

Second, the hackusations itself. How would you feel if someone told you were entitled? That you didn’t earn any of the money you made it was given to you? That you didn’t earn those grades, you slept with your professors or paid them off to pass you? That you didn’t get that job fair and square, you just got lucky. Do we not HATE this sort of mindset? This sort of derailment or belittling of someone’s time and effort put into doing something? It’s not pleasant is it? So why do you, first think someone is hacking? Why do you think with this mindset that everyone who kills you is cheating, or is using an op merc? Why not assess YOURSELF before you say such toxic things? Cause chances are you aren’t nearly as good as you think are, or simply not playing at your best? And for those of you on the opposite end, why are you beating someone down when they are frustrated? Why not offer advice? Why not try to help them learn something instead of making them feel worse? If you try and they just get angrier, then don’t say anything else. Don’t let shit escalate, be an adult.

Like, I feel like this is stuff we should all know by now, all of us here have played shooters for a while now. This isn’t anything new, think before you act folks.

(SkrubLord) #95

You haven’t played CoD have you? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Just kidding, you have a good point.

Before everyone gets crazy about the accusations-topic, I just want to point out that I didn’t make this thread to throw false hack-accusations at everyones faces, but too hear if people have experienced the same increase as me. (Make another thread if you are getting into a heated debate about it, it’s “off topic”.)I agree that people should be more careful who they call hackers, and it’s mostly young or new players that make these accusations when you kill them as you say. But when I see a guy killing 7 people with headshots in matter of seconds it’s kind of obvious that they are not ‘‘just good’’.

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[spoiler]Alright, we get it, when you do run into hacks, it sucks, totally understandable. But, I want two run two quick analogys by you and everyone else in this thread.

First one, the paparazzi, the media, the people who basically share intimate and private crap about everyday people, therefore creating a toxic society where everyone is getting into your personal business and making it public. It’s a freaking circus isn’t it? Well guess what, it’s a similar effect when you come on here and make these threads. You’re spreading rumors or this notion there are these hackers, and not just one, a lot of them. Everyday, constantly, what kind of image does that create? How many times do you think that leads to false accusations? All the time, because you’ve created a narrative that this game is infested with cheaters and these newer players eat it up. Because they don’t know any better. THAT is why when you have evidence, you report it privately here. You don’t need to make it public, all that does is give them attention, free advertisement for their “product”, and creates paranoia.

Second, the hackusations itself. How would you feel if someone told you were entitled? That you didn’t earn any of the money you made it was given to you? That you didn’t earn those grades, you slept with your professors or paid them off to pass you? That you didn’t get that job fair and square, you just got lucky. Do we not HATE this sort of mindset? This sort of derailment or belittling of someone’s time and effort put into doing something? It’s not pleasant is it? So why do you, first think someone is hacking? Why do you think with this mindset that everyone who kills you is cheating, or is using an op merc? Why not assess YOURSELF before you say such toxic things? Cause chances are you aren’t nearly as good as you think are, or simply not playing at your best? And for those of you on the opposite end, why are you beating someone down when they are frustrated? Why not offer advice? Why not try to help them learn something instead of making them feel worse? If you try and they just get angrier, then don’t say anything else. Don’t let @$!# escalate, be an adult.

Like, I feel like this is stuff we should all know by now, all of us here have played shooters for a while now. This isn’t anything new, think before you act folks.[/quote]
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We are talking about completely different things here. You are arguing against points me or anyone else in this thread ever made. No one here is spreading false hackusations because someone killed them. No one in this thread said every guy that kills them is a hacker. You are arguing against non-excistent points. Maybe someone said it in different threads you have come across. But not here… I’ll post this pic again.
http://i.imgur.com/r5vZjfX.jpg
Is this just a good player? Is this just a case of me having a bad mindset? Are people really so naive that they think DB is a perfect game with no hackers? I’ve never said this game is full of hackers, and I just pointed this out in my last comment. If people jugde this game by some post on the forums that say there is some hackers in the game and then decide to not play it, they are stupid. I’m not trying to be an asshole, but if you want to be salty about people accusing you of hacking when they kill you, make another thread about it. @Ardez you might close this one.

(Black) #96

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;189088”][quote=“Black;189081”]
Where I disagree is when I see other people say something along the lines of: “No one is hacking, you are just bad.” Telling other players that is not going to make anything better.[/quote]

Sorry but no, I actually think that’s the appropiate response. Because the vast majority of the time it’s just paranoia instead of actual hacks. Telling players they need to suck it up and improve means eventually they’ll see they can do the same things the so called hacker could do, and realize they were too hasty.

Really that is the best way to get hackusations to stop, is to get better at the game, and understand how they’re doing something, rather than blame it on a cheat.
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I think the number false accusations people make are being exaggerated. There is nothing wrong with being skeptical.

Just as @KUST__LunarTM pointed out players causally throwing out hackusations is very upsetting. I’ve been called a hacker a couple of times when I play as vassili and yes it does piss me off sometimes but it’s uncommon.

The best way to stop hackusations is to educate people on what hacking is, and what it is not. Telling people other’s are not hacking and they are just bad is a horrible method. It clearly doesn’t seem to be working on these forums.

I’d also like to thank @SkrubLord for pointing out something you are missing. No one here is claiming this game is full of hackers or spreading false hackusations. I just came on here and shared my experience of “questionable” gameplay, one in which there was a confirmed hacker.

(KUST__LunarTM) #97

@Black You do realize this thread has pretty much been nothing but “Share your experiences with hackers here” right?

(Amerika) #98

@KUST__LunarTM I’ve sa[quote=“Black;189167”][quote=“Watsyurdeal;189088”][quote=“Black;189081”]
Where I disagree is when I see other people say something along the lines of: “No one is hacking, you are just bad.” Telling other players that is not going to make anything better.[/quote]

Sorry but no, I actually think that’s the appropiate response. Because the vast majority of the time it’s just paranoia instead of actual hacks. Telling players they need to suck it up and improve means eventually they’ll see they can do the same things the so called hacker could do, and realize they were too hasty.

Really that is the best way to get hackusations to stop, is to get better at the game, and understand how they’re doing something, rather than blame it on a cheat.
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I think the number false accusations people make are being exaggerated. There is nothing wrong with being skeptical.

Just as @KUST__LunarTM pointed out players causally throwing out hackusations is very upsetting. I’ve been called a hacker a couple of times when I play as vassili and yes it does piss me off sometimes but it’s uncommon.

The best way to stop hackusations is to educate people on what hacking is, and what it is not. Telling people other’s are not hacking and they are just bad is a horrible method. It clearly doesn’t seem to be working on these forums.

I’d also like to thank @SkrubLord for pointing out something you are missing. No one here is claiming this game is full of hackers or spreading false hackusations. I just came on here and shared my experience of “questionable” gameplay, one in which there was a confirmed hacker.

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If you think constant accusations aren’t an issue then you need to play a day in my shoes. Not only do I rarely ever see anybody cheating but I constantly get bullsh*t hurled my way.

Some people on these forums and in discord have brought me “proof” of people cheating that was “overwhelmingly obvious”. Then I saw this proof and the people who were so sure about their declaration ended up being entirely wrong. They had no clue what they were talking about in virtually every case. And I’m not talking about the obvious aimbots. A 5 year old can see that and those aren’t even worth talking about. But the sheer amount of people that have shown me their proof in non-obvious situations have been, at times, hilariously wrong.

So yes, in my experience people do the accusation thing way too much. And there are a lot of backseat anti-cheat people who don’t even understand the very basics of the game (some of whom post on this forum in an authoritative manner too). It’s pretty riling from my perspective.

Nothing is wrong with talking about cheating and ways to get rid of it. These threads are rarely closed. But there is so much misinformation out there it’s hard to take people seriously. Which is why the topic typically turns into what this thread has become.

I can close it if you want Skrublord. Just let me know.

(Szakalot) #99

please stop closing threads af OP request, @Amerika, thread is for everyone to discuss stuff, this isnt yahoo answers where we all adhere to a specific question: (

on topic, im with you though, hackers are very few and far between, at least on minlvl servers. im definitely called a hacker more than i see hacks myself, and you are a better player (from the sound of it, and your OP stats : P ).

fortunately dirty bomb is a game of multiple skillsets, so a hacker that just turns aimbot on, or even walhack, is easily recognizable from an excellent player at a similar power lvl.

it takes about 3-4 duels to see how good a player is, and usually at that point i can attribute relative skill levels to all opponents on the server : you definitely want to know if an X merc is weak/ unusually strong etc., based off the player’s skill

(Black) #100

lol @Amerika . I really have no words for that kind of experience.

There is a lot of misinformation around here which I why I proposed to educate players more on hacking as oppose to just saying “your[sic] bad, no one is hacking”.