More aimbot hackers?


(Szakalot) #21

@SkrubLord people dont votekick because they are clueless.

its hard to spot someone is hacking if you are NOT on the receiving end of it. consider how clueless 10> lvl players are at reviving/giving ammo etc. how would they ever notice that someone on their team is hacking, as opposed to being really good? even when looking thru their eyes when waiting to spawn, the feed is delayed, making any snapping to heads harder to spot.

add ontop of it that these players tend to miss any votes being cast altogether.

this whole ‘people dont votekick cause they want a win’ is one big ass dirty legend.


(yummyRhythm) #22

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(Ardez1) #23

Please report all hackers using the in game report system or by submitting a ticket to Nexon Support. The forums are not a place to report hackers.


(SkrubLord) #24

[quote=“Szakalot;187272”]@SkrubLord people dont votekick because they are clueless.

its hard to spot someone is hacking if you are NOT on the receiving end of it. consider how clueless 10> lvl players are at reviving/giving ammo etc. how would they ever notice that someone on their team is hacking, as opposed to being really good? even when looking thru their eyes when waiting to spawn, the feed is delayed, making any snapping to heads harder to spot.

add ontop of it that these players tend to miss any votes being cast altogether.

this whole ‘people dont votekick cause they want a win’ is one big ass dirty legend.[/quote]

What if I told you everyone was telling them to kick the player in chat, and the other team responded? They were well aware that the 30000xp level 1 player on their team was hacking, but still didn’t want to kick him. It isn’t very hard to spot a hacker like this. Every player with at least 3 working braincells is capable of seeing that the level 1 guy with 30000 xp, 50 kills, 0 deaths and every kill he gets is a headshot when pointing his gun to the ground is using hacks, as opposed to being really good. Same goes with matches that are 4vs7 or 4vs8 because half the team left, and the other doesn’t want to shuffle. I’m not saying everyone is dicks, I’m just saying there is players who take advantage of said scenarios. If you dont believe there is, that’s your opinion.


(Jostabeere) #25

@SkrubLord Yes. Sadly people don’t give a flying fucking fuck until they are on the losing end.


(Black) #26

[quote=“Szakalot;187206”]@Black if someone uses unnoticable hacks, than its hardly an issue for me. im not saying its ok (ban the twats), but i dont care, it doesnt affect my experience. an aimbot thats worse than a good player - why would i care?

are all those hacks you notice on minlvl servers?[/quote]

I’m not asking players to care about hackers, I’m just asking players to stop telling others “no one is hacking, you are just bad.” and denying the existence of hackers.

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;187268”][quote=“Black;187147”]For all those saying “I haven’t “seen” any hackers” please understand that just because you don’t “see”(a.k.a. notice) them doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

It’s kind of hard to prove someone is using wall hacks.

As for aimbotting, that’s a different issue because hackers aren’t stupid. Nowadays aimbotters will just aim for the chest as oppose to the head to mimic regular aim.

It’s quite easy to find out if someone is aimbotting. The easiest way is to see if every bullet they shoot at you hits you which is either due to extreme luck, you not moving(obviously), or aimbot. Even the pros can’t land EVERY hit on you.[/quote]

Truth is unless you actually watch someone play, you won’t be able to tell if someone is toggling or whatever. Only the blatantly obvious hackers are easy to spot, 100% accuracy, aimbot, etc.

If someone is smart and is hiding it well, it’s really hard to tell. Trigger bots and wall hacks especially, you have to watch them play carefully to see if they’re getting lucky, maybe they have acute game sense, or maybe they really are wall hacking, cause there’s no reason the other player should have lost to them. Competitive Counter Strike is the perfect example, then again I suck at that game so maybe there’s some secret to it beyond just guessing what spot the enemy is likely to hit you from. Like some sort of game of hide and seek, with guns.

This is stuff that can’t be easily called hacks, which is why often I just don’t listen to people when they make accusations. If it’s blatant, then yea, I’ll call it out. But I’ve been called a hacker numerous times by new players, as I am sure plenty of other people here have as well after 6 months or more of playing this game for, let’s say about 10 hours a week.

So, yea, you can understand why when I see these posts at least 2 to 3 times a week, hear it at least once or twice a week when I play from people who JUST started playing, that I basically just assume it’s not true. Crying Wolf constantly just makes it harder for people to believe it when one actually shows up.[/quote]

Yes I’m aware that newer players will constantly assume hacks when they play up against someone who is really good. However as for experienced players, spotting a hacker is not something that is difficult.

You can never 100% tell someone is hacking, but you can make inferences. I’ve played fps for a long time now and I can tell almost instantly if someone is hacking when they shoot at me. I don’t just jump to conclusions.

I remember just now of recently I was in a server in which a guy killed me way to fast and all his bullets seem to hit me. I was like ok, there is something suspicious about this guy. The next time we got into a shoot out I jumped in the air and noticed all of his bullets STILL hit me. Sure enough before I can accuse him of hacking other players started accusing him and spectated him finding out he really was hacking.

Again, not that hard.


(Amerika) #27

@Black That is exactly what I do. If somebody just lasers me, especially with a fairly weak gun (mp400 on a Vas for example), that is immediately suspicious. If I see them again I’ll do everything I can to lower my TTK to see if I die just as fast. If that happens, well, then it’s pretty conclusive. I then go to spec and record what I can and I submit a report.

However, that’s pretty rare from my personal experience. Most cheaters just do the rage bot instant kill thing. And people wallhacking in a game this fast isn’t as big of an issue as it is in CS and DB also has built in wall hacks due to the recons as well. And the ones that tune the bot to act like a decent player will still stand out like a sore thumb if they move like trash and have bad crosshair placement.


(SnakekillerX) #28

Saw someone hacking two days ago on a US East server. The claims that it doesn’t happen in the states is just silly, if it happens in one place, then it is happening everywhere.

The aimbot was blatant too, getting insta-kills with every weapon including handguns the second they appear on screen.

Report and move on… and hope the info NGS gathers is enough to prevent this in the future.


(Mrarauzz) #29

Got in a match today where I caught a hacker…he found out I was streaming and tried to defend himself but I was also recording and played the footage back and still tried to defend blatant hacks. I just want NGS to catch up already.


(Sorotia) #30

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;187131”]It’s odd, cause in the states we don’t see any typically.

I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen an actual hacker on a US server, but I can recall how many times I’ve been accused in the last month. >_>[/quote]

I haven’t played for a while…but a few days before the last time I played…had a group of 3 hackers, insta-killing people with pistol headshots and they even tossed in the insta-kill the whole team mod once or twice.


(Freezer_Boss) #31

Not for me… (i didn’t played much this week though)


(bontsa) #32

I haven’t been able to play for 2 weeks, is that hilariously overkill “slay everyone one on server under someone elses name” hack still around of has NGS finally managed to block it? It looked like was also able to speed up and slow down players at will which resulted in pretty ridiculous views during Rhino rotation :'DD The way those script kiddies ruined games was state of art already


(RectalTerror) #33

I have too witnessed too many aimbotters since just a few days ago.

Luckily some aren’t very clever & aren’t trying to hide it, but that makes me wonder about the clever ones who are good enough and use “a little assistance”, it’s probably harder to detect when spectating them.
Also, the fact that you see quite a lot of Vassili’s at the top of scoreboards is a sign that something’s wrong.

Anyway, I’ve just spectated one of those aimbotting Vassili’s (which apparently you can’t name…), and he wasn’t even trying to hide it.
But the thing is, the guy has a Steam profile and he’s VAC-banned. How is this basic, public info not even used by NGS? Any VAC-banned shouldn’t be allowed to play this… Steam or not. One can argue that the guy’s profile can’t be known if he’s not playing on Steam, but I am - so the info is there.


(Supersneaky) #34

@RectalTerror its actually very easy to top scope on vasilli if played right.

Also name and shame is a no no


(Sorotia) #35

[quote=“RectalTerror;187469”]I have too witnessed too many aimbotters since just a few days ago.

Luckily some aren’t very clever & aren’t trying to hide it, but that makes me wonder about the clever ones who are good enough and use “a little assistance”, it’s probably harder to detect when spectating them.
Also, the fact that you see quite a lot of Vassili’s at the top of scoreboards is a sign that something’s wrong.

Anyway, I’ve just spectated one of those aimbotting Vassili’s, “[ACF] R3V3NGE”, and he wasn’t even trying to hide it.
But the thing is, the guy has a Steam profile and he’s VAC-banned. How is this basic, public info not even used by NGS? Any VAC-banned shouldn’t be allowed to play this… Steam or not. One can argue that the guy’s profile can’t be known if he’s not playing on Steam, but I am - so the info is there.[/quote]

@RectalTerror

I’d edit out the name, naming and shaming isn’t allowed on the forums.


(RectalTerror) #36

Yeah, but cheating isn’t allowed either, and there are plenty, no?

Anyway, it’s not like I could wrongly denounce a cheater who also happens to be VAC-banned.

Then explain why it was never happening before? I’m lvl24, I don’t remember having seen any vasilli at the top until last week. Yeah, -maybe- all the vassili’s suddenly got god-like.

There was another of those vassili that I spectated btw, as everyone was accusing him of cheating, and it surely looked like he was. But when spectated, there was nothing obvious for that one. Yet, I’m pretty sure that he was clever enough not to make it too obvious. It’s one thing to quick-scope & headshot everyone 100% of the time while running, but I’m pretty sure that aimbots can be fine-tuned to aim-assist not too obviously.

Also, since last week, there’s that general feel that I die all the time in 0.2 sec - maybe I suck a lot since last week, but it doesn’t look like I’m the only one suspecting this.


(Mrarauzz) #37

I top score as Vassili. I’m a hacker confirmed.


(Amerika) #38

[quote=“RectalTerror;187469”]I have too witnessed too many aimbotters since just a few days ago.

Luckily some aren’t very clever & aren’t trying to hide it, but that makes me wonder about the clever ones who are good enough and use “a little assistance”, it’s probably harder to detect when spectating them.
Also, the fact that you see quite a lot of Vassili’s at the top of scoreboards is a sign that something’s wrong.

Anyway, I’ve just spectated one of those aimbotting Vassili’s (which apparently you can’t name…), and he wasn’t even trying to hide it.
But the thing is, the guy has a Steam profile and he’s VAC-banned. How is this basic, public info not even used by NGS? Any VAC-banned shouldn’t be allowed to play this… Steam or not. One can argue that the guy’s profile can’t be known if he’s not playing on Steam, but I am - so the info is there.[/quote]

VAC bans are not used by NGS (or anybody else) because Valve doesn’t let other developers use them directly for their games.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-RADZ-6869&l=english


(Yoma) #39

I wouldnt say more, i saw 2 aimbot-user during the last 3 weeks. One was the normal headshot aimbot while the other was an bodyshot aimbot, both were level<10.

However, for some people it might seem like there are a lot of hacker lately because actually i was accused of hacking lately a lot for reasons like giving someone who came around the corner a headshot with the Sniper or ravaging alone through 4 enemies with little lucky headshots with the Stark.


(RectalTerror) #40

[quote=“hotpinkCherry;187470”]
VAC bans are not used by NGS (or anybody else) because Valve doesn’t let other developers use them directly for their games.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-RADZ-6869&l=english[/quote]

Might be true, but that link doesn’t say anything about that.
Since the info is public knowledge, that is, Valve is showing it publicly, how could Valve “not let” anyone do anything with it?

This said, I didn’t know that VAC-bans were per-game. Pretty shitty concept.