Mod-idea: The team with at least two more players don't get XP


(Qualmi) #21

[QUOTE=dutchman;210469]Yeah i tend to react harsh sometimes, sorry if it hit you hard :wink: I try to be more nicer for you and your friends in the future :slight_smile:
So, sorry for my harsh reaction :wink:
(I reacted hard cause what you wrote was kinda unreadable for me).[/QUOTE]

dont care what you just said…how about you get yourself a brain next read + answer + you really can spare yourself your stupid behaviour to me.


(nUllSkillZ) #22

Please be patient and calm.

I like the idea with the loss of XP per second.

Another idea:
Set the level of the players of the team with more players to 0.
If the teams are mad even the level would be set to the level they have had before.

And I meant this idea as option for all of the big mods.


(CyburK) #23

what about the simple and very good solution etqw has for that problem. when the team is uneven a vote pops up asking you to join the other team to even up. the change rewards you with 10 xp.

  • i think making a team lose xp is not a good idea. in a lot of games people leave in the last minutes cause the game is lost anyway. so punishing the players for that would be really lame.

(IndyJones) #24

^ that’s brilliant.


(Diego) #25

I would ditch any server in a heartbeat if it stripped my xp.

If you want to fiddle with players XP when the teams are imbalanced, don’t punish a whole team just because a player or 2 decided to stack the teams. Just reward the other team with DOUBLE xp until the teams are evened out. If the teams never get evened out in number, they will eventually balance out in XP.

Besides, sometimes the team with the extra players might really be sucking and getting rolled by the smaller team. Numbers alone are not always an indicator of a stacked team.


(Cambodunum) #26

Besides, sometimes the team with the extra players might really be sucking and getting rolled by the smaller team. Numbers alone are not always an indicator of a stacked team.

… couldnt say it better


(system) #27

I really like the idea of CyburK. Maybe he was the one who allready wrote a few weeks ago about that.
I still am thinking about to remove the xp system completely but this wont solve the allies / axis stackers.
So a kind of reward system is by far the best idea i have heard of :slight_smile:


(aaa3) #28

cybs idea is rly very nice; but giving out negative xp or stripping greater parts of the hud r way too harsh for me. dont be that strict to players lol. @reapl, that doesnt matter, it only dont let more ppl join to the stronger team, but if they leave it does nothing. reverting xp to prev status after match if unev also dont like. double xp is too much, and it wont as effective either imo to make ppl move. the smaller team pwning… that can be sad pff but nothing can done automatically against it… or yes? wtf… maybe adding some advanced pre filter to these punishing mechaninsms? i mean based on xps or kills or whatever gained by the two teams, if one is doing consistently better than othe other despite the numerical disadvanteage, the thing wouldnt enable the balance-encourager event.

hiding xp pane only, and the spamming lua are also okay but the starter post and the etqw are more awesome. temporarily stripping skills… dunno… liked others better

another idea, maybe we could make it two-tier:
with that my ideal’s summary: if one team is smaller by 1-3 players, and in sucking, simply do the noxp, hidexp, or voteforreward thing, all with a notifier text. maybe we could make them all in and selectable by the cvars value, not just 0 and 1. and if smaller by 4 or more players, and in sucking, then we can do nulls’ second idea of not only not giving xp but setting (tmp.ly) the levels also to zero. or slowly(!) giving negative xp rly this time. again notifier text is a must!. and if the smaller, by whatever amount, team still seems stronger based on some stats (dont have exact ideas, not into this stuff that much), then dont do anything.


(system) #29

Are there any other ideas around ?
I am trying to convince the progger of our mod to insert the (great) idea from CyBurk.

Still, i would feel good for any other ideas for a kinda system like that.

Anyone ? Please :slight_smile:


(Qualmi) #30

guys, rewarding or punishing with xp will be a slap to rating system. if you think its ok then do it. i know rating is not everything and i really dont wanna discuss that. i only see the factors which are important in et world and try to combine these with others and try to find out which doesnt fit.

other ideas:[ul]
[li]take out the objective whenever teams are unfair.
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[li]take out health and ammo cabinets
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[li]give reward like health or ammo to teamswitchers, maybe constantly
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actually i could think of more…

edit:

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[li]“winning team” cant construct anythings
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[li]“winning team” cant use there class skillz anyway
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[li]“loosing team” is constantly on adre without having the need to inject
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(system) #31

I am so sorry , i know you do not like me but this is mega stupid.
…Take out objective, please dude :wink:


(Qualmi) #32

hey dutchman. no prob. i think i should start doing sth else because it really annoys me that there is everything about taste. mathematics would be cool eh :slight_smile: you cant attack me there because it has a gobal meaning :stuck_out_tongue:

and oh pls oh joy. pls go on and do sth for the community and then present it here…i will be there believe me…


(system) #33

I do not even know what STH means :smiley:


(Qualmi) #34

sth = something. you really dumb.

and id like to say sorry to null for all that offtopic stuff. dutchman lead it that way, he started getting insultive and didnt even bring arguments. it wasnt me. and i know im a read-plox atm (for dutchman atm = at the moment, read-plox = sth annoying to read).

i will leave these forums now. rep gone, no respect at all, so bye. you can reach me through my hp if there is sth wrong to my maps or sth.

drama eh :wink:

bye


(aaa3) #35

must be like smth, stg, smthg, et c [something], obviously! but this kind of “show us your stuff before u criticize” is annoying :s, i received my load too :wink:

taking out cabs could b nice, just it seems impossible [,and it doesnt that useful anyway, there are fops and meds, they taking the burden mostly] as it’d b needed 2 know 4 each map, which 1s belonging 2 which side. giving health and ammo as reward; will get it more easily banned from ratigs lol. imo.


(aaa3) #36

&@the speedpost: it wasnt dutch who lead it that way but your oversensitiveness which had been showed off itself numerous times. he was not even insultive (me neither with my “fkk tutorials”) just told us what does he think about your idea. (not ur person. for that, it is you who doing the job instead of us:)

“i will leave these forums now. rep gone, no respect at all, so bye. drama eh”: wtf r u talking about? this isnt a fking vanity or ego contest here lol
we r exchanging our thoughts about mapping & modding for our mutual learning, not to collect rep or anythnig like in a mmorpg omg


(system) #37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4RWiK_cjjs my answer :slight_smile:
Dont deny it !


(system) #38

I dont deserve this honor aaa3 :slight_smile:


(reaply) #39

This topic, it is like fast food. It started semi-ok, but slowly starts to kill the consumers.


(system) #40

What to say. Your message is like a candy, catching my eye, like a eyecandy.
Dont be so serious, the topic is still fully OK or else i would not talk with the coder about programming Cyburks idea into the mod :slight_smile: