Mod-idea: The team with at least two more players don't get XP


(nUllSkillZ) #1

Hi,

a small mod idea:
The team with two more players don’t get XP.

Lately I’ve experinced often that games are played with unfair teams.
Normally the defending team has more players.
In my eyes attacking is much more difficult.
So I’ve had the idea that the team with more players (difference should be 2) don’t get XP at all.
May be with a warn sign at the top of the screen.


(Paul) #2

On fun servers running jaymod/noquarter that wouldn’t make difference cuz almost everybody is full-skilled there. For other mods it’s an idea maybe yes.


(system) #3

Hi nUllSkillZ,

yeah, this topic will allways remain i fear but the idea is not that bad but also kinda unfair to other players.
I am thinking a few years about this how to balance and to keep it fair for all.
Our only fair method at the moment is :

We run a campaign like this :

5 Objective maps -> 1 Funmap -> 3 Stopwatch maps -> 2 CTF maps and starting from the beginning again.
Inbetween we put a shuffle command in the cycle. for example before SW campaign starts, it does a shuffle after the funmap.

I’veread a pretty good idea or similar idea somewhere her but i forgot the link. I will try to look it up.
But tbh. i don’t think that there is a really fair sollution for this ever existing ‘problem’ :frowning:

(Shuffling by XP does not mean much sense too me cause there are enough players who play a long time and still are beginners. They just have a lot of XP cause they play often…)


(aaa3) #4

nice one, +1 from me, but this shouldnt be a separate mod but a new cvar in all major mods’ new versions if they like it too

(edit: i mean the original, got speedposted lol :p… donliek shuffles btw ;/)


(IndyJones) #5

maybe lua script to pause game until teams are even up?


(aaa3) #6

thats very distracting and forceful. the no-xp is a very good idea… subtle enough…

well… maybe a small warning text could be displayed with it “due to uneven teams, team asdf is currently not receiving any xp points…” or anyth liek that… idk…)


(system) #7

I once thought about removing the whole XP display. Just internal but still counting. (Just not displaying :wink: )


(ischbinz) #8

i like that idea -
but i’d prefer - loosing xp then - for all in that team - for example - 1 per second :slight_smile:


(IndyJones) #9

i’d like idea of removing everything from hud except compass (without map), chat and players notification.


(Paul) #10

On many jaymod servers, especially large ones, teams get shuffled every map automaticly. THis helps a lot!


(system) #11

Your joking right ?
I would like to play 2 and more rounds axis or allies if you do mind.
What the f*ck. If i lose goldrush as axis in stopwatch mode and get shuffled into axis again…nice, good revenge…
God…At least let the people play what they want to play…allies or axis…but shuffle every map ist just dumb…
But i know…your next comment or hint will solve all problems…


(Qualmi) #12

i think it would be rofl when there would be something like autopause of the game so that all together have to chat about who goes where to even the teams. i bet there would be one hours of pause lol.

best is ofc if there is an admin present, but making a whole mod out of this idea is too much i think. its good idea. some sort of auto-punishment.

me personally, if i had the skills to code sth like that, would add a var which starts countin when there are uneven teams. after a certain amount of time and thousands of warning messages you could start to auto-punish, like dont let one team gain xp (cool for rating whores. they would leave immediately, because if they would join the other team during game sl system wont let them rate anymore as far as i know and if they stay they would have disadvantage towards others which are also whoring in the other team) or pause until everything solves itself in chat :wink: (lol i really have that image in mind standing in the desert and there is only one cricket whistling and you stand beside that cricket and nothing happens lol), or a hardcore shuffle.

my 2 cents…


(system) #13

[quote=Qualmi;210363]i think it would be rofl when there would be something like autopause of the game so that all together have to chat about who goes where to even the teams. i bet there would be one hours of pause lol.

best is ofc if there is an admin present, but making a whole mod out of this idea is too much i think. its good idea. some sort of auto-punishment.

me personally, if i had the skills to code sth like that, would add a var which starts countin when there are uneven teams. after a certain amount of time and thousands of warning messages you could start to auto-punish, like dont let one team gain xp (cool for rating whores. they would leave immediately, because if they would join the other team during game sl system wont let them rate anymore as far as i know and if they stay they would have disadvantage towards others which are also whoring in the other team) or pause until everything solves itself in chat :wink: (lol i really have that image in mind standing in the desert and there is only one cricket whistling and you stand beside that cricket and nothing happens lol), or a hardcore shuffle.

my 2 cents…[/quote]
Dumb and makes no sense at alll (At least try to make descent sentences…:S )


(Qualmi) #14

whats the prob ? did i say anything wrong ?


(Nail) #15

you can have a lua that spams uneven team message, we have one on one of our servers


(Qualmi) #16

well ok. it seems i should rewrite this, as dutchman, the almighty and all knowing said it makes no sense and its dumb.

…actually its not important anymore, but it somehow bothers me, so i rewrote. there were issues like autoshuffle, auto-xp-break, autopause and some others like hud stuff and bla:

about autopause: i thought it would be funny, but ok joke is gone thx to dutchman. others proposed lua scripts, i say do it directly in the code. but dont get me wrong now, this was just a thought. nothing ‘big’ as dutchman would think now (i know how you think…).

about auto-xp-break: actually i mentioned a good point in here: think about the sl-rating players. if a player doesnt gain xp anymore, he has 3 choices:

one is leave => playersession wont be ranked most likely, 2/3 time mark, look at sl rating rules.

the other choice is stay and switch the team => sessions wont be ranked due to same reason (2/3 mark, or maybe even the teamswitch itself will prevent the player from beeing ranked. cant say it any more detailed, but most likely the player wont be ranked).

third is go on and play => huge disadvantage, because as a player in the punished team i cant gain xp anymore, and thats what rating is all about; gaining more xp than others.

about auto-shuffle: not a fan of this. will also hack the sl rating system. and the players dont like it either (rating players and others).

and dudes. pls stop this. it will make me leave these forums. the way you bitch at random people is just stupid. you cant talk to everybody like you want, a little respect, thats all. and how could specifically you dutchman, you bitched at least 3 - 4 ppl in your last 20 posts, how could you be so stupid to not expect any consequences. i mean look at your sig dutchman, what you think pissed ppl could do to it. and it wont hit just you, it will also hit your online friends. so either you get yourself a noob account and be a backshooting nobody or just stfu because it could be a bad outcoming for you. you cant talk like that to anybody here, nor will they accept it. more: there will be and are some ppl you already annoyed. i mean dont get me wrong now. i am a harmless and nice person. but if you keep going bitching like that you run straight into problems.


(Qualmi) #17

well ok. it seems i should rewrite this, as dutchman, the almighty and all knowing said it makes no sense and its dumb.

…actually its not important anymore, but somehow it bothers me, so i rewrote. there were issues like autoshuffle, auto-xp-break, autopause and some others like hud stuff and bla:

about autopause: i thought it would be funny, but ok joke is gone thx to dutchman. others proposed lua scripts, i say do it directly in the code. but dont get me wrong now, this was just a thought. nothing ‘big’ as dutchman would think now (i know how you think…).

about auto-xp-break: actually i mentioned a good point in here: think about the sl-rating players. if a player doesnt gain xp anymore, he has 3 choices:

one is leave => playersession wont be ranked most likely, 2/3 time mark, look at sl rating rules.

the other choice is stay and switch the team => sessions wont be ranked due to same reason (2/3 mark, or maybe even the teamswitch itself will prevent the player from beeing ranked. cant say it any more detailed, but most likely the player wont be ranked).

third is go on and play => huge disadvantage, because as a player in the punished team i cant gain xp anymore, and thats what rating is all about; gaining more xp than others.

about auto-shuffle: not a fan of this. will also hack the sl rating system. and the players dont like it either (rating players and others).

and dudes. pls stop this. it will make me leave these forums. the way you bitch at random people is just stupid. you cant talk to everybody like you want, a little respect, thats all. and how could specifically you dutchman, you bitched at least 3 - 4 ppl in your last 20 posts, how could you be so stupid to not expect any consequences. i mean look at your sig dutchman, what you think pissed ppl could do to it. and it wont hit just you, it will also hit your online friends. so either you get yourself a noob account and be a backshooting nobody or just stfu because it could be a bad outcoming for you. you cant talk like that to anybody here, nor will they accept it. more: there will be and are some ppl you already annoyed. i mean dont get me wrong now. i am a harmless and nice person. but if you keep going bitching like that you run straight into problems.


(dutchmeat) #18

Simply save all the XP sessions in a buffer each round and see if the team are uneven, if so, revert the current XP session to the one saved from last round for team x(the one with the many players)


(system) #19

Yeah i tend to react harsh sometimes, sorry if it hit you hard :wink: I try to be more nicer for you and your friends in the future :slight_smile:
So, sorry for my harsh reaction :wink:
(I reacted hard cause what you wrote was kinda unreadable for me).


(reaply) #20

Why can’t we just put auto balance? It does it for you.