Just want to chime in and say that the Ballz server has a Fun Night server that we run on Fridays with only new maps that have come out and that the Church has been on it for the last couple weeks now. I, among the many others that played it, really enjoyed it. Well done, Gerbil. I wasn’t sure who made it till I read this post 
MML Church ET (+ source) released now!
As if you could say anything else after slagging it off 
As if I could say anything else to what you just said 
As if… erm… I’m in a bit of a loop 
Very nice mapping though Gerbil and evillair
What has evillair got to do with this map? :???:
What made you think anyone other than me had something to do with it? :???:
how did evillairs name get in there? :???: wooopss :S
I was reading a readme.txt file written by evillair at the same time and i wrote his name down by mistake too
I aint slagging your map off
im impressed by it, but i dont like playing in it. i played in a 10v10 server, maybe it will be more fun in larger or smaller server?
But i didnt like Rail Gun at first - but now i seem to like it since i learn new stuff about it, maybe this is that kind of map.
Edit: Deathmaster thinks about how much slagging off Gerbil will do to his map after it is released :bored: :uhoh:
Heh, don’t worry too much 
If the worst comes to the worst you can just ignore my comments as those of a twat 
I try not to slag stuff off outright - it’s just when I see something I don’t like I say so, and why, and what I’d have done differently. It’s called constructive criticism (from my point of view - some people take it differently - maybe I shouldn’t have skipped those diplomacy classes at school!). I actively welcome it on my own maps, cos I know what I want, but that doesn’t mean it’s what most people want.
Thing is, I prefer an informed, constructive criticism - hence why I was rather amused by your comments about gameplay before you’d actually played it - judging from other’s posts they thought it quite silly too 
So hurry up and get yer map out - look at it this way - most people get better the more maps they do. I find it funny to look back at my first efforts and wonder how in god’s name I did it all so badly 
Oh and I’d have recommended probably a smaller server - it’s running on rotation on a 40 player server, and that’s insane! Also, like many maps, it would benefit from panzer restrictions… 
hmm - that could have been why there were spawn campers near the allied spawn point with two panzers :eek2:
hmm - going to try and find it now and have a proper play lasting one hour or so.

my map is near completion (of the beta) since all i need to do is add some crates - add a neutral command prefab (and maybe delete the other allied and axis single ones) add some at mospheric lighting , a outside stairs and work on a freaking bitch of a script_mover script which i am trying to work round of, and im done.
Ah well, there’s 5 routes out of allied spawn - if you let yourself get camped then…
Thing is, when in doubt, go panzer. Sad but true, and especially annoying for someone like me who specialises in panzer (cos me ping R too crap for anything else).
Not that you don’t get spawn camping in any other map of course 
When I played this online, I noticed far too many people worrying more about seeing the ghosts than guarding or stealing the objective. Every 2 minutes or so, someone would ask in the chat where the ghost was. And people were playing the organ the entire time. No prob, though, because they were easy prey for grenades.
Yeah silly really - they are looking for a ghost, then they become one themselves 
I’ve told ‘plenty’ of people how to find certainly at least 1 of 'em - if someone wants to post how to find 'em go for it - it’s not really that big a deal, just a novelty 
Now that WOULD be cool 
(Sorry, no comments on church coz I haven’t played it yet, looks hot though)