[map release] norwegian battery b6 (final beta)

[anon96144471]

HI ALL

I did never think I had to use this account anymore, but whatever as this place got many visitors, I desided to announce here so I can avoid that I announce at TWT, and someone write about the map and using TWT as source, then someone use them as source and them as source…
and everything is getting very confusing

Yeh and the map:

Norwegian battery was from the beginning supposed to be released at christmas but… when I heard about hinting I desided to delete everything and start from zero… as I already had announced that Norwegian Battery was coming I desided to make a new try… after a great number of tutorials was readed I started the first january

and now 18 weeks later, 18 weeks of HARDCORE work its finished…

Story: its the late summer of 1943 and the axis are loosing control overthe north sea. The allied has noticed that and a new power is growing in the allied forces. The allied high comand has desided to use the new mobility over the north sea to attack german bases in norway.
But before they can start the offensive they need to destroy a battery so they can get close into the rocky beaches with their battleships…

Mission: the allies need to unlock the battery with a keycard and then destroy the guncontrols.

My own comment: better than b5 and mouch better than b4…
B5 was a FLOW fix

B5 to B6:
*new grass thats split the area outside the east bunker entrence
*fixed commandmap text
*lower ambient, better feeling (ambient 10)
*gravity 790, makes you jump about 2 inches higher in etmain
*tested in n!tmod also (silEnT, no quarter)
*fixed the sky a little bit higher to allow 1 more trickjump

post your ideas here/(bugs if they exist)

DOWNLOAD: http://www.thewolfteam.org/download.php?view.110

SCREENSHOOTS HERE: http://www.thewolfteam.org/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1189.0#post_1204

//cakes are tasty, play my map and eat cakes! //oVe

[anon96144471]

I was thinking about if I remember everything…

I did forget about the wayfiles!

Here you got some wayfiles: http://www.thewolfteam.org/download.php?view.112
Thunder maded them, so thanks to thunder, but he also said they where terrible, but… They will be enough til a dude from F/A give us better wayfiles

[BlackDelivery]

Great news! Posted on my site for fully share your good work! Thx!

[anon96144471]

Ok, thanks

Ive noticed:

Many persons (not only one)
are telling me that the map have few details, I will try to put more details and propsin the final version
(but I need to be careful as the fps already is a little bit low at some places)

And nothing else!

[BlackDelivery]

Great! In fact it is a bit 'bare of details (as I wrote in news concerning exit the beta 6), but did I mention, reading the readme, your openness to suggestions and modifications!

[Teuthis]

So First of all Congrats. Getting a Map up and running deserves some credit. I think you noticed already that some details would advance the map. I’ m now mapping since some years and please don’t get me wrong but if you made a map in 18 weeks it means that you:

• either are genious and worked on it 24/7
• you created a tiny non-detailed ‘we need to blow something up’ map
• or you should really consider going back and creat a map that catches indeed some attraction

Honestly, you can’t imagine how many times I created beautiful landscapes with tons of details to then later see that the gameplay doesn’t favor my wishfull thinking. I’m now busy on my one for more than a year and I really put at least 15h in per week.

As I said, no complain, you deserve some credit for sure…I have just seen so many maps coming and going

[anon96144471]

Teuthis? Can you please try the map also…

Its sounds like you wanna tell me that 18 weeks isnt enough?
And maps come and go, yes they do, people make a map at five sec and say: tadaa release!
And then nothing more happen…
Dingenskirchen b1 and raid b4 is the latest good maps we got + fueldump -Z

My comment to dingenskirchen is: looks like real, a really cool map the only prob is the fps.

My comment to raid: really cool map, I can see the work behind it, a good map to put at the servers
raid got a genius lighting and its in the same class as dingenskirchen, but a high and stable fps rate -nice work magic, magic is magic

My comment to fueldump-Z: a summer version of fueldump, everything is cool and so but its a little bit boring when mappers only copy others maps and make a new version, but nice to bring variation

And then we got some maps where we can complain:

Norwegian battery, a choppy test from oVe (me) without details… But still a competition map, 100% offensive, no waiting, just do it (sw)

1944 nordwind, the tank slow down the offensive
gameplay but a aggresive feeling of sw is still
there, the maps gameplay is fantastic
but not super, but its better than all maps named here (but raid is only a millimeter away)(or yeh an atome away)
The problem with it is that the textures dont look that mouch real, also the windows should be break able
Make a terrain blended road instead of the current totally black one
Make tracks from weels, etc.

The shrine, ehm thunder have maded something very quick in radiant and its hard to recognise the feeling i did get from mia…
Better gameplay and more detailed houses pleace!

Then its some sniper maps…

back to my map:

Yeh this is maby a “we need to blow something up map”
But its impossible to make something other…
Should the allies construct a battery for the axis? -nope

And if youve tested it you maby noticed the
aggresive doc run part with the keycard?
-so youve not test it

Remember this is a competition map
Not a campaign.
Its mouch easier for allies to win than for axis
Thats also why there is no escort the truck part…
Becouse it delay
The map end exactly 50ms after the battery is destroyed, to avoid waiting like in braundorf

[twt_thunder]

Even Mia was made way to fast Ove, I lack the thing called patience, but atleast I share ALL source. So if people like the Idea of the maps they got all the opportunity to do them better . And a chance for new mappers to have something to play around with.
My maps are not really worth mention at all. There are a lot of amazing mappers out there who works on theur maps for 2-3 years to get all those little details as lights, textures , the right props and so. All honour to them . But atleast I learn something new on every map I make. So they can only get better…

[Mateos]

[QUOTE=oveove;497629]1944 nordwind, the tank slow down the offensive
gameplay but a aggresive feeling of sw is still
there, the maps gameplay is fantastic
but not super, but its better than all maps named here (but raid is only a millimeter away)(or yeh an atome away)
The problem with it is that the textures dont look that mouch real, also the windows should be break able
Make a terrain blended road instead of the current totally black one
Make tracks from weels, etc.[/QUOTE]

• Used original textures, Nordwind 2 was just supposed to be an enhanced version, focusing on improving the gameplay and fixing bugs (plus adding what was missing, like objective cameras).
• Well, I’ve elevated the road with Radar in mind ^^’ Black?
• Vehicles have the same behavior/look as the vanilla maps, what else?

[anon96144471]

Yep and the map is great, but the only prob is that the road is totally black…
Maby you should add light over it? Can maby help

Its very disturbing that the windows of the houses cant be destroyed…
Worth to think about.
But the map is otherwise really really good gameplaywise

And back to norwegian battery:

Wayfiles coming soon at fearless assasins downloads

but, still… Its not with a false modesty I say that this is a test by me, and that african radar is mouch better… Becouse this map isnt so focused at a good look…
Its a good gameplay and a fun map with a lot of dirty trickjumps that I wanted to make

[Teuthis]

Hey folks, I think I need to make an attempt to take some heat out of this discussion. It was never my intention to offend anyone, so if someone feels offended I’m really sorry. As said, this was not what I had in mind.

And I did test the map meanwhile…

Anyhow. Sorry again

[twt_thunder]

[QUOTE=Teuthis;497677]Hey folks, I think I need to make an attempt to take some heat out of this discussion. It was never my intention to offend anyone, so if someone feels offended I’m really sorry. As said, this was not what I had in mind.

And I did test the map meanwhile…

Anyhow. Sorry again[/QUOTE]

NP, I wasn’t offended atleast, I just stated about my own mapping

[Teuthis]

And one last thing before I step back commenting this post:

@ove: giving me a bad reputation and saying I offended you is really telling me a lot about you. If you read my post carefully I think saying I offended you is really way overexxagerated. Criticism is not a lack of sympathy and dealing with criticism is something you either can or can not.

Again, it was never my intention to offend you and if you feel offended I’m again sorry. Maybe you should say in the next posts that credit is welcome but criticism is not.

[Teuthis]

At least it was enough for him to give me a bad reputation thunder.

No further comments needed

[anon96144471]

[QUOTE=Teuthis;497597]So First of all Congrats. Getting a Map up and running deserves some credit. I think you noticed already that some details would advance the map. I’ m now mapping since some years and please don’t get me wrong but if you made a map in 18 weeks it means that you:

• either are genious and worked on it 24/7
  [/QUOTE]
  IRONY?, you are ironic and wanna say that i need superpowers and that means that this alternative is inpossible

• you created a tiny non-detailed ‘we need to blow something up’ map

OFFEND?! A non detailed ‘we need to blow something up’ that means that my work isnt worth a fuk?
And thats an offend, do you think I should post a thred for something I dont like?

• or you should really consider going back and creat a map that catches indeed some attraction

THANKS, interesting idea, this doesnt catch any attension at all becouse its worth abso fuking nothing?

Honestly, you can’t imagine how many times I created beautiful landscapes with tons of details to then later see that the gameplay doesn’t favor my wishfull thinking. I’m now busy on my one for more than a year and I really put at least 15h in per week.

youre simply boastful and mean that your work is better?
Everyone can be boastful
-i got a better map
-i got a faster car
-i got a bigger house
Everyone can say things like this, but is it always right?
Better show up with some pics…
Im not offended becouse of that your map is better, its more the style…

As I said, no complain, you deserve some credit for sure…I have just seen so many maps coming and going

At least, the “im not complaining
just saying what is right”

And this am I supposed to say okey, welcome about?

Can you please understand that this post you posted
It has no messege…

No messege
Some type of offending
And youre boastful, and mean that your map is better becouse youve worked longer time?

And then the third worldwar becouse of -3 rep points?

[anon96144471]

[QUOTE=Teuthis;497679]And one last thing before I step back commenting this post:
@ove: giving me a bad reputation and saying I offended you is really telling me a lot about you.
[/QUOTE]

IT says what? That im a looser? A crazy fukk? A non intelligent guy? A good mapper?

If you read my post carefully I think saying I offended you is really way overexxagerated. Criticism is not a lack of sympathy and dealing with criticism is something you either can or can not.

AND? what are you critic about, that the map was maded fast?

The reason why there are few props is becouse the maps leveling
Its impossible to fill the map with props and keep an okey fps rat

But for sure I can putmore props in it
But still, I think i posted exactly this in my third post in this thread
So its not needed that you tell me again?

Again, it was never my intention to offend you and if you feel offended I’m again sorry. Maybe you should say in the next posts that credit is welcome but criticism is not.

Yep, its ok, and if your intention still is good the bad rep will not afect you so it will make difrence
But to post a lot of **** in my thread, my maprelease thread is still NOT allowed!
But okey, to give you bad rep is maby mouch
But still I getting bad reps for a lot of things
Should I react like this for them should it be the only thing to write/talk about…
The latest bad rep i did get had a very stupid reason: sorry but now you will understand that sd dont got rights to the wolf thingy«
So i thought that was the way it used to be on this forum… Give people a bad rep just becouse you like to, and yes my reaction is maby to strong but i got better reason than the guy that gave me the latest bad reputation had

Maby I must tell you all, set up rules for all how to reply to this topic;

1no offending

Def: offending is when you try to announce that a map or person or a cat or a frog (or whatever you want) is stupid and low quality

2critisism is not allowed as it is another way to offend someone

3critisism that help people is allowed

Example: I dont like your map becouse your map got many lighting windows, can you please place more windows where the lamp is off, i mean every room cant have the lamp turned on, make some black windows and bring a better atmophere

4bug report is allowed, its the reason why we got threads?

5then ofcourse is credits allowed or positive comments

[anon96144471]

I dont like this discussion at all right now

Can someone lock it and let it pass down?

[Nail]

[QUOTE=Teuthis;497680]At least it was enough for him to give me a bad reputation thunder.

No further comments needed :)[/QUOTE]

fixed that for both of ya

[IRATA]

On first view this stable fps map reminds me of et_beach (which is still a popular map w/o tons of visible details ).

oveove, add speakers/speaker script file for the final release: ERROR: Can’t find sound/maps/norwegian_battery_b6.sps

[Mateos]

Shouldn’t be an error this it isn’t required… Not even a warning. It only stores the sounds added through the Speaker Editor… If you don’t want to use it, no point in adding an empty file.