Make Dirty Bomb Great Again


(Aerodrome) #1

I’m playing a lot and was sent by the God to do this:

  1. Focus on Stopwatch was an error. Dirty Bomb was created for Objective mode.
    EU server browser don’t have Objective mode at all. It’s stupid!
    We have russian servers, but i don’t care about this (im from russia and always playing on eu servers bcoz ping 50-80)
    Joining Stopwatch mode not in the beginning = don’t care about objective.

People only have motivation to win only 1 round.

So, dirty bomb developers need to remove CASUAL mode at all bcoz noobs joining SERVER BROWSER to test skills.

Also, developers must create Objective Mode RANKED MODE.
STOPWATCH MODE ITS COOL … but it for nerds. ITS hard to get balance in this game, most of time even 2nd round don’t exist at all (players dont have motivation, time, concentration and etc), leavers, fast repair/plant bomb/multiple kills doing to many problems.

We need only OBJECTIVE mode RANKED!
1 ROUND. ALL FIGHTING to the end.

2 systems of ranked:

  1. defend points (mmr)
  2. attack points (mmr)

Stopwatch mode only for cybersport. But here not so many people who wanna be a pro and wait too many time for ranked.

Also i wanna servers with restrictions like it was before. 20-50 lvl +.
I dont have motivation to do team work with noobs who even dont know map in Stopwatch mode.
I even wanna buy server. How can i do it. Pls. My own rules its cool.


#2

Uhm…it’s like the exact opposite. You see, stopwatch mode eliminates map imbalances by granting both teams an opportunity to compete on both sides. This is specifically important for a competitive environment ranked is supposed to be. But how are matches supposed to be equal if a team is able to win due to the sole reason of ending up on the defending side which more often than not provides a considerable advantage?


(FalC_16) #3

In one sentence you are saying ranked needs to be obj only and in another you are saying stopwatch is for cybersports…so what is it then?^^


(Aerodrome) #4

objective mode sometimes better then stopwatch.
for example. u can think like this in stopwatch mode:
“i need to call mom now. we can loose 1 phase. then ill back and Maybe after switch we can anyway win”
its not hard mode! its mode by situation and have many problems


(Teflon Love) #5

@Aerodrome said:
Also i wanna servers with restrictions like it was before. 20-50 lvl +.
I dont have motivation to do team work with noobs who even dont know map in Stopwatch mode.
I even wanna buy server. How can i do it. Pls. My own rules its cool.

While I disagree with most of what your God sent you, I can say Amen to that.


(Artyrim) #6

You want to make db great but WITHOUT EXECUTION?


(Press E) #7

Most maps are balanced more towards one side than another. Usually not by a lot, but it’s still there. Defenders win more often than not on dockyard, attackers usually win on vault, etc. When you only play one round in objective, that becomes apparent. But having to play on both sides removes that imbalance.
And you know objective mode still exists in CMM, right? I think it should exist in the server browser too, but still.
I love objective, don’t get me wrong, I wish the devs didn’t try to shove it under the rug as much as they do sometimes, but stopwatch really is ideal for ranked.

And no, removing casual mode or whatever you’re suggesting would kill DB.

Min level 20 servers were almost always completely empty. In fact, me and my friends would often use them as private servers to test stuff specifically because almost no one would ever join. DB just doesn’t have enough people for that, min level 50 servers would be even worse.
Besides, in theory CMM removes the need for level based servers. When players of similar skill are put together, there’s no reason to lock them into min level servers.


(K1X455) #8

I’m motivated only defence in Objective mode.


(Aerodrome) #9

@STARRYSOCK said:
And no, removing casual mode or whatever you’re suggesting would kill DB.
casual dont exist before and all was fine
i dont wanna play casual objective.
here always like 3 nubs and 3 exp players
casual was created for nubs and “balance”.
but i hate when noob dont know map.
noobs need servers ~10 lvl … but when here come 100+ lvl and got score 45:1 its not good for noobs, right?

stopwatch its cool … but it dosnt work now, too many demotivation.
its not csgo where we dont have HEAVY weapons.

DB need good server browser where noobs can test skills and don’t afraid if someone see terrible aim/bad playing
Noob 5 lvl really afraid to join CASUAL mode. He afraid to ruin the game for other players.

1 option: server browser obj servers + servers operated by exp players (button PLAY for fast joining)
2. option: ranked objective (attack~ 50 points for win; defend ~65 points for win)
3. maybe stopwatch ranked

@STARRYSOCK said:
Min level 20 servers were almost always completely empty. In fact, me and my friends would often use them as private servers to test stuff specifically because almost no one would ever join.
players always wanna join servers where ~10-12 players.
i doing this like u.
after hard win i dont wanna play and leave for rest and all leave this server for another
its normal.
if i wanna play on servers 20 lvl i need to find empty 20+ server and wait alone for players
that a problem for every server.
But when now 100+ lvl killing 5 lvl its not good, right?


(Aerodrome) #10

Server Browser also can be more simple.
Filter option is good and custom search (for nerds).
Too many servers for join its NOT good sometimes.
Simple big PLAY button.

After u hit Play button u never know where u come (its cool).
60+ lvl always joining server 20+ … not 1+ lvl

IF someone high levels wanna kill noobs 1lvl+ they need to add server to Favorites and then Join.


(Aerodrome) #11

For those who wanna fair STOPWATCH playing … Sometimes its just a dream.
U can get stupid teammates / airstrike for whole team / respawn cd 15 sec / … and etc
Its not main mode for DB :confused: Forget about this. Its custom mode …


(Press E) #12

@Aerodrome said:

@STARRYSOCK said:
And no, removing casual mode or whatever you’re suggesting would kill DB.
casual dont exist before and all was fine
i dont wanna play casual objective.
here always like 3 nubs and 3 exp players
casual was created for nubs and “balance”.
but i hate when noob dont know map.
noobs need servers ~10 lvl … but when here come 100+ lvl and got score 45:1 its not good for noobs, right?

stopwatch its cool … but it dosnt work now, too many demotivation.
its not csgo where we dont have HEAVY weapons.

DB need good server browser where noobs can test skills and don’t afraid if someone see terrible aim/bad playing
Noob 5 lvl really afraid to join CASUAL mode. He afraid to ruin the game for other players.

1 option: server browser obj servers + servers operated by exp players (button PLAY for fast joining)
2. option: ranked objective (attack~ 50 points for win; defend ~65 points for win)
3. maybe stopwatch ranked

@STARRYSOCK said:
Min level 20 servers were almost always completely empty. In fact, me and my friends would often use them as private servers to test stuff specifically because almost no one would ever join.
players always wanna join servers where ~10-12 players.
i doing this like u.
after hard win i dont wanna play and leave for rest and all leave this server for another
its normal.
if i wanna play on servers 20 lvl i need to find empty 20+ server and wait alone for players
that a problem for every server.
But when now 100+ lvl killing 5 lvl its not good, right?

I… really have no idea what you’re saying. CMM exists because it’s more balanced than the server browser in general. It’s not perfect, but that doesn’t mean we should throw it away. Server browser balance was one of the biggest complaints the devs got before it was added.

I find more “nubs” in the server browser actually. Besides, as DB figures you out, it’ll start placing you with people at your skill level instead of nubs.

Yeah Stopwatch can feel drawn out sometimes, but it’s still the ideal mode for ranked, as others have said.
And no, level does not always equal skill. I’ve seen level 15 players do better than level 50 ones


(B_Montiel) #13

The earth is definitely getting flatter every day.


(Aerodrome) #14

@B_Montiel said:
The earth is definitely getting flatter every day.
what’s up, man

remove objective mode from server browser is good?
stopwatch forever? after stopwatch in server browser all coming to ranked?
no man. stopwatch not popular mode always was.

i can say more:
no one cares about fair mode.
pubg/fortnite deathmatch mode more popular


(Splicerrr) #15

I see why your saying stopwatch is unfair for ranked. It is very time based and dependant on both teams. Your job as attackers is to complete everything as fast as possible. As defenders you try to prevent the attackers from having a fast time. The attackers set the time limit, and defenders try to make it as long as possible. Although both sides have advantages. If you are coordinated you can finish attacking in a decent or very fast time. Same for defending. In the end it really just matters on the skill of the team, teamwork and ptfo which is really the main point of the game.

They said they will be making more game modes in the future. But they said death match will not be in the game because it doesn’t fit with the games main goal which is objective.


(Aerodrome) #16

@Splicerrr said:
They said they will be making more game modes in the future. But they said death match will not be in the game because it doesn’t fit with the games main goal which is objective.
main goal not objective with stopwatch mode in main corner
battle royale its stupid for me … i dont have motivation to be the first
its waste of time

2nd round in stopwatch also waste of time (server browser)
its DEATHMATCH for many players
here too many leavers, snipers, skill testers
u can loose … bcoz 2nd round exist and then u just leave match


(LifeupOmega) #17

Already knew this would be a dumb topic by the title, wasn’t wrong.


(Aerodrome) #18

Dirty Bomb was created for Objective Mode. Its very fast shooter and u can always run without any restrictions (fortnite speed not all the time)
But … stopwatch killing OBJEctive mode.
U can LOOSE and say:
oh … he was disconnected on 2nd round
oh … i think we can do it better on 2nd round
… etc 100 + reasons
By the way … u learn how to LOOSE.
Is it good? Loosers?


(B_Montiel) #19

@Aerodrome said:

@B_Montiel said:
The earth is definitely getting flatter every day.
what’s up, man

remove objective mode from server browser is good?
stopwatch forever? after stopwatch in server browser all coming to ranked?
no man. stopwatch not popular mode always was.

i can say more:
no one cares about fair mode.
pubg/fortnite deathmatch mode more popular

Look, team objective based games are biased by essence. Attack differs from defense, and it generally means that to have an equal overall result, you have to do both the attacking and defending.

SD is trying to build maps which are as balanced as possible, no matter the progression in the map. Which is somehow a mistake as first objectives should favour attack, and last ones defense. Which is why stopwatch tend to be boring as hell in this game. As long as a team is slightly better than the other, it gets the map on full hold, no matter where the map progression went.

Nevertheless, removal of stopwatch in public games ? This game mode is how you get interesting games. But you guys want the shiny bits in less than 2 minutes unless you get bored and disconnect.

And sadly, you dudes who don’t play for some challenge are having the big wide open ears of splash damage. Maps arent selective enough, proper funnels, balanced at every objective. Here is what you get.


(Aerodrome) #20

Another example:
STOPwatch, team disbalaced by 1-2 players and enemy already plant bomb …
any reasons to play?
NO!
very little chances
to do this faster in 2nd round
disapointment!
Its not OBJECTIVE now … all u can do is Deathmatch if u want.
Better even leave.
THIS MODE is STOP WATCH … u fighting against time.
If u lucky u can do this more faster :confused: but its not fair for another team, right?)