Lots of new players on XBL.. Use some good sportsmanship.


(SinDonor) #1

Gotta give the newbs a chance. Spawn camping them is just gonna ruin Brink for them, especially if they don’t have many Brink friends yet. A team full of newb solos is always gonna get beat, even vs just a team of two or three friends with Brink experience.

Tonight on CC, Zekariah, SleepyzMe, Zeddicus and I (along with 4 randos) allowed a team of many noobs blow the gate with 4 mins left, then tried to let them move the bot. Our other teammates weren’t so nice, so the poor attackers barely moved the bot down the first street, even though the four of us were hangin way back. I checked their scoreboard, and the noobs were definitely not “getting it”. Five of the attackers were Operatives, 2 were Soldiers, and only 1 was an Engy until there was about 2 min left, then 2 other guys switched to Engy. It was too little too late, and I think those two new Engies were bots that took over when people quit.

But, due to us not totally spawn camping them and letting them battle us In the first street, most of them stuck around until near the end of the match. No rage quitting is a good thing.

Let the noobs play and learn. Spawn camping does not teach them anything.


(SakuyaFM) #2

Newbs or noobs?

I’d say people who play shooters casually or generally people new to shooters are considered newbs. Take it easy on these guys.

People who plainly don’t do anything for the team aka mad stupidity, as well as not grasping the basic concept of Brink because they came from COD are considered noobs, and should be crushed with extreme prejudice.


(SinDonor) #3

[QUOTE=SakuyaFM;367464]Newbs or noobs?

I’d say people who play shooters casually or generally people new to shooters are considered newbs. Take it easy on these guys.

People who plainly don’t do anything for the team aka mad stupidity, as well as not grasping the basic concept of Brink because they came from COD are considered noobs, and should be crushed with extreme prejudice.[/QUOTE]

I come from the land of the early 90s where noob and newb meant the same thing: Someone who was new to a game and hadn’t quite figured it all out yet. They werent total idiots and horrible at games in general, just new to the current game we were playing.

Noob took on the “total bleeping idiot” moniker sometime during the last decade.

Anyways, there are definitely some CoDiots in Brink recently. They never try to complete Obj’s. They try to use the sniper rifle consistantly and fail miserably. They run right past you as a medic and never use their revives on you even though they just respawned and have pips. Etc etc. Oh well. Either they get better or theyll go back to CoD once they realize Brink is too different for their play style.


(Patriotqube) #4

And ofc if you ever play against a guy called Patriot|Qubenet just be gentle with him, he is a nice bloke, that just dosent have the time to play the game that much, so just consider him newb and dont kill him :slight_smile:


(RandyNinja) #5

i usually prefer to jump on the side of the noobs and try to lead them to victory


(1111) #6

Common sense is a super power nowadays and if any FPS has a bigger learning curve than CoD, noobs will quit after two games.

It’s just so sad how often medics and engineers just shoot people or do nothing on the sides of the map, even if the objectives are mostly clearly stated on screen and the objective wheel and they always have something they can do.

Sometimes you’re stuck in a lobby where if you’re on the attacking side and there was an infinite amount of time, we would never win because people on your side just don’t get it.

On defensive side, sometimes it seems like people let the other team hack/plant on purpose and we lose our every objective… It’s horrifying to run to your objective, see 6 enemies, kill 4 and die. Respawn, only to discover that they’ve already hacked over 70% of the objective. Where were the other players?

I’ll be pleased to replace any **** players with bots. Sounds harsh but I don’t want crappy players to ruin game after game for me.[/rant]


(cptincognito) #7

Any time a match starts to feel one-sided I’ll switch teams. PC has a lot of new players too- be nice and show em the ropes.


(Stormchild) #8

+1

4chars


(snoopycat) #9

This is why clan tags are actually needed. I hate these cheap punk clans who routinely go on pub matches to play against randoms. Then they go on forums and talk about how amazing they are. I’d love to see these creeps pulling that bs on Halo


(Dormamu) #10

I always switch sides to be with my kind (za noob’s).
What i have seen on PC, after a 1-2 maps the good players will leave the server to find a real challenge and the teams will be balanced, more often most of them will join us and we will have matches where the objective is done in the last seconds (30-55), even when we lose i have the feeling we hold the line as good as we could. And when the good players use VOIP and help us coordinate, even if we lose 4 maps in a row, and they still stick with us, an tell us “GG”, you get a glimpse of what team-play means and what SD tried to make.
I pray every night to God Hjammerdeim to protect them from evil :D.


(RandyNinja) #11

[QUOTE=Dormamu;367503]I always switch sides to be with my kind (za noob’s).
What i have seen on PC, after a 1-2 maps the good players will leave the server to find a real challenge and the teams will be balanced, more often most of them will join us and we will have matches where the objective is done in the last seconds (30-55), even when we lose i have the feeling we hold the line as good as we could. And when the good players use VOIP and help us coordinate, even if we lose 4 maps in a row, and they still stick with us, an tell us “GG”, you get a glimpse of what team-play means and what SD tried to make.
I pray every night to God Hjammerdeim to protect them from evil :D.[/QUOTE]

yeah would be easier if we could speak to the noobs with voip as standard to help them out because alot of them don’t understand the whole fireteam concept


(Oschino1907) #12

[QUOTE=SinDonor;367465]I come from the land of the early 90s where noob and newb meant the same thing: Someone who was new to a game and hadn’t quite figured it all out yet. They werent total idiots and horrible at games in general, just new to the current game we were playing.

Noob took on the “total bleeping idiot” moniker sometime during the last decade.

Anyways, there are definitely some CoDiots in Brink recently. They never try to complete Obj’s. They try to use the sniper rifle consistantly and fail miserably. They run right past you as a medic and never use their revives on you even though they just respawned and have pips. Etc etc. Oh well. Either they get better or theyll go back to CoD once they realize Brink is too different for their play style.[/QUOTE]

Many COD players on recently, not just their playing style but listening to them when they have mics, just nothing but stereotypical COD lingo and retardedness. Often hear them say to their friends they want to go back to COD after next match cause they keep getting their asses handed to them despite me trying to nicely give them basic advice as to why we are losing (no one is buffing each other, no one flanking just taking same routes over and over, NO MEDICS! but 5+ Soldiers every mission, too much lone wolfing trying to be the terminator, just overall lack of teamwork and moving in groups). Atleast I was able to get them to join the fireteam if that means anything…

But its also much more then that, even got peeved at a good friend yesterday. He got a friend of his to pick up the game, but he fails to tell him he should do like most of us did (day 1 people, especially PS3 guys). We watched all the tutorial videos, played all the challenges to unlock everything, played through the whole story (campaign mode) on both sides atleast once (many multiple times) and got somewhat leveled up BEFORE we went to Freeplay and hopped into the online versus grinder and we ALL were noobs back then. But yeah he pushes him right online for his first moving/shooting of any kind in the game, literally having to step by step explain every basic thing to him during the match and then every match afterwards as new things came up and he begins to level up.

Its like WTF learn to play the game before just hopping online and taking 1 of 8 valuable spots on a team and causing 1 other to not be fully focused as he explains the entire game and so everyone else with a mic doesnt have to hear it the whole game while trying to cooridinate things. This game gives you zero reason to hop online and not have a good overall understanding of the game, it holds your hand all you want it to and literally takes you step by step through all the skills you will need to be a respectable player. But alas I have a good feeling many of these COD players are doing much the same, they arent learning the game first. They just hop online and start playing Freeplay Versus (maybe atleast unlocking weapons/attachments as that kind of stuff is crack to them).

Sorry for the rant but it just boggles my mind and frustrates the crap out of me and as you can tell I have been in many matches of these sorts as of late… Overall though it really makes me appreciate all the friends I do have on Brink and have been playing with for weeks and months now. They are all competent and decent players and even the “worst” of them is better then almost any random noob. Dont know how I could play this game with out them. We crush randoms and with experianced players keep it fun as we know how to play the game and dont get face raped match after match.


(wolfnemesis75) #13

Yeah. Xbox was crazy yesterday how many people were playing Brink. It was hard to find a match we could get friends in to. Every single game had only 1 spot or 2 spots open, so we had to keep trying until eventually we found a match with enough room for our party. The new DLC definitely kick-started the xbox community back up. Crazy how many new players there are as well. Had some intense matches last night. The new players bring something fresh to the table. :slight_smile:


(Oschino1907) #14

Yeah often I joined full/almost full games and couldnt get friends in, thats when it sucked the most. Met a few decent guys though but majority had no mics or were not my kind of Brink players. Best thing I found to start new matches with friends is be specific with the map to start with and maybe pick a “not so popular” map as it will be more likely to be empty or have fewer players. It is very surprising though to join games around lunch time and get packed room after packed room. If the population stays this way we will def need lobbies at some point, some how some way. Need a way to play with friends.


(wolfnemesis75) #15

Yeah we know the tricks for choosing a map, and which one works best to get an open match, but non of that worked. That’s what I am saying, it was crazy. Every single map was had maybe two spots open if we were lucky. They just need a clan or team search feature. It doesn’t have to be a lobby, but adding a My Party search to the My Rank or Higher could work, right? (My party would basically be Any Rank+My Party) :slight_smile:


(RabidAnubis) #16

PSN has been having the same issue.

Except we did this, gave the enemy the first objective, and then lost.

Fail.


(SinDonor) #17

[QUOTE=RabidAnubis;367574]PSN has been having the same issue.

Except we did this, gave the enemy the first objective, and then lost.

Fail.[/QUOTE]

Hhahaha, yeah that’s happened to us once or twice too. Sometimes, all it takes is one or two good players to show up on the opposite team mid-match to turn the tides of the battle.

Fail for you guys, but awesome victory for the other team, which hopefully created some new Brink fans.


(tangoliber) #18

All we need is a match browser. Matchmaking works better for games with huge populations of players. Match/server browser works for games with small populations, as it makes all games visible, and there is no wandering around in the dark.


(tangoliber) #19

All we need is a match browser. Matchmaking works for games with huge populations of players. Match/server browser works for games with small populations, as it makes all games visible, and there is no wandering around in the dark.


(SinDonor) #20

As long as they don’t F it up, like Homefront did. We’d all be sitting in a pre game lobby, I’d attempt to get us into a match, then only 3 of our 6 would join because they ignored the amount of people in our lobby and put us in an almost-full server.

We’d all wait for a minute for the game to load, three of us would be like, “We’re in!” and the other three would say “Dammit! This game sucks!”