Lopsided Games Suck

(schmeisser) #1

Are there any servers out there with mandatory xp shuffle? I can appreciate a well coordinated attack or defense as well as the next guy, but it seems like every map I play is completely dominated by one team or another. It’s getting really hard to find a good hard fought evenly matched game. The skills of some fanatical players or clans make some maps virtually unwinnable, espescially defense-weighted ones like fueldump or goldrush. I’m no whiner, if one team manages to put it all together for a map or two and dominate, so be it, but when I join a campaign and see five out of six maps won by axis or allies, I bail immediately. I know it’s gong to be a boring game.

(Graballa) #2

You’re right, and it does piss me off also. I guess you’ve just gotta hope there’s an admin online who’s willing to shuffle. It’s generally the defence that is gaining all the xp and on certain maps it just gets stupid.

A good xp shuffle can really help things but I’d say it was always at the discretion of the admin. Blatant server pimpage commences - if things were getting stupid on KK’s server, I’d certainly shuffle things around to ensure xp was balanced. It normally helps matters a lot.

(Wikkit) #3

You could try et.efterlyst.org

Usually good players and shuffle after each map - i.e. no campaigns.

(Loffy) #4

Yes, /connect et.efterlyst.org
I recommend it too. The quality of the players is high and there is a shuffle.
// L.

(M.I.L.F.Hunter) #5

high xp means very little IMO.
I’ve seen teams with very little xp totally bulldoze an entire team of guys with level 4 players.

team work and staying focused on the objective is what wins maps, not high scores.

generally on pubs when I see players on my team (at the end of a map) say things like “wow best medic!” or “I have the most xp!” I jump right off that team because I know those people care more about looking good on the score board than winning the map.

personally, on our server I’ve found the best way to deal with people who only play for xp is to not do an xp shuffle, but do a team swap.

I love watching a team full of Axis medics who constantly go on and on about how much they are “owning” all of a sudden being put on Allies and having to actually work as a group on maps like goldrush or depot.

Usually after 2-3 minutes we get a “this is gay I’m out” from them.

:frowning:

:blah:

Serious though, feel free to try our server. Myself and many of our guys will always hop teams in the middle of a match to try and even things out if the other team is full of newer players.

(Sick Boy) #6

Even in that case an XP shuffle will help, because the not-so-good high XP players will get split between the 2 teams and the good players that have just joined the server will as well.

When teams are unbalanced, XP shuffle will almost always create a better balanced game then before.

(M.I.L.F.Hunter) #7

ehh I guess, I just tend not to even look at xp when I judge if a team is balanced or not because a lot of times the best players in a server are the guys with the lowest xp.

I mean I’ve seen a lot of servers that run 10 map campaigns and all the players on both teams have 89463846387462384623842389 xp, yet none of them have any clue what to do as far as objectives or tactics go.

yet a smart level 1 soldier who deploys an mg42 at a choke point and just sits there waiting for people can be a hell of a lot more dangerous than 4 clueless level 4 field ops.

Personally I find xp shuffles to be pretty worthless because some of the best players I encounter on pubs don’t care about xp, they just do what is needed to win the map. If that means camping down in the gun controls on Battery for 20 minutes straight and never earning a drop of xp other than battle sense, so be it.

Those are the type of people you want on your team, not the “hey I just made general!!11” types.

And I still say team swaps make a world of difference in terms of opening players eyes to just how easy it is to play certain sides on certain maps.

As far as pubs go, I really don’t think a lot of casual players understand just how easy it is to play say, an Axis medic on gold rush as opposed to playing an Allied engineer on battery or oasis.

(Ifurita) #8

When I join, I look for other players I know that I can work with

(Sauron|EFG) #9

Savage Servers ETpro Clan =ABS=|56ms|212.42.1.3:27969
The Infamous :: ET Public|53ms|217.158.150.50:32050

No stacking, and they don’t hesitate to switch teams and/or shuffle (at map change) to even out the teams. Just look for the =ABS= and !nfamous tags…

^7Splash Damage’s Server|58ms|217.158.151.16:27961

The regulars on the SD server also recognize when a shuffle is needed.

ROFL!

(schmeisser) #10

Thanks for the input all. I’m going to ty all the servers listed. Somebody’s gotta be runing an even handed server out there. I find I learn the most when the teams are even, then you really see how good tactics and teamwork result in a win, or at least a hard fought near miss. Some of my favorite games have come right down to the wire, so you feel good, win or lose.

(KingJackaL) #11

I used to have an auto XP-shuffle at the end of every campaign on my servers…

…but a lot of the players b1tched about it, cos it often meant they got swapped off Axis/Allies and onto the side they don’t like playing, and because it meant they couldn’t stay playing on the same team as their friends all the time.
:disgust:

MEH…

(MadMattUK) #12

where are you located schmeisser?. if you can get a decent enough ping,
try the servers listed by sauronEFG. You won’t go far wrong with any of those :drink:

(ExP|Maximus191) #13

Yeah jump on our server m8
The Infamous :: ET Public|53ms|217.158.150.50:32050 .
Teams auto shuffled after every map,stopwatch,2 panzer limit.
Also like Spoof said we never clan stack either.
Just good games played in a friendly atmosphere.
See you on there :slight_smile:

(pgh) #14

Idd. The 3 of them servers can be good providing the regs are there. As mentioned before and mentioned above the et.efterlyst.org servers are imo, the best ET servers atm. Even better is there is about 4/5 of em or summit… usually always full.

(zoomee) #15

Your all welcome to join our server - we try to keep things even depending upon how many noobs are on the scene

Heres looking forward to handing a rocket with ur name on it too ya!!!
ROFL![/quote]

(=ABS= SparhawK) #16

Thanks for the heads up guys, we try to keep the game as even as possible.

I actually like it better if I am on a slightly weaker team, its just more entertaining. If you win you can really crow about it

v56
v57

SH

PS Hiya PanzerMan (I can make it go round corners) Zoomee. :clap:

(Basie) #17

Been thinking a bit about this as well. I’m larval stage, so one rung off the bottom as far as ET’s concerned. One evolutionary step beyond pond scum. Lots of work to do. So I tend to pick the losing team when I jump on a server, and swap to the other team if I see things are getting too unbalanced. It’s better practice, usually, and ya gotta love a challenge :smiley:

XP don’t mean much. Sometimes shuffles work if the good players have been in-game awhile and accumulating. Sometimes they just balls things up, even worse than they were in the first place.

Yesterday I was playing NA campaign and it was pretty obvious one side was going to get their hides flayed and laminated for display. They had a couple of reasonable players, and the rest rooks and one who’d never played the game before. The other team had accumulated a bunch of high-end clanners, some of whom were just bound to camp and spam.

I did the side switch knowing it was hopeless, but figuring if I got a couple of headshots per spawn it was worth it. What bugs me is how boring it must be for some of these guys. Who the hell gets their kicks from panzering a ragtag team coming out of spawn, for 30 solid minutes? I just don’t get it.

Part of the imbalance I reckon is due to large numbers of players per team. Half the tactics you see would never have a hope of working in a match because you need your whole team to defend/attack in sync. With 10+ players a side, the XP whores have more freedom to range out and camp, spam, etc.

I’m not really moaning, there’s some good practice to be had and the sweet victories when their lame-ass camping gets them too far forward and they lose the objectives. Oasis is classic like that :smiley: And I don’t begrudge people the chance to have a bit of fun doing things they’d never try in a match.

(blushing_bride) #18

it seems like a lot of people do. Uber players love to be on axis and play together and refuse to shuffle. Ive seen this happen more times then i can count. They’re happy to keep n00b killing until they realise that half the allied team has left. So they ruin the game for everyone including themselves. But what annoys me the most is that because ther’re uber head shot kings they think they know best. What they fail to realise is that being good at a game does not make them any more or any less of a total and utter twat.

(Kendle) #19

Some Clan players do tend to treat publics with a, how shall we say, “lack of respect”. This is because for them it really is just a run around / have fun / let off some steam kind of game. They save their serious gaming for Clan wars. Personally I’ve always disliked this attitude as for me publics are all I have to a certain extent, so I like to play seriously even on public servers.

A lot of Clan players also use publics to try stuff they wouldn’t get a chance to do in a Clan war and/or practise certain techniques through repetative exercise. So the guy Panzering the other team for 30 minutes might seem pointless to you, but it’s invaluable practise for him.

Unfortunately neither suits me very well as I want to play a semi-serious game even if it is a public server. I’m not particularly interested in being someones punch-bag for an hour or 2 just so he can perform better in his next Clan war.

Fortunately, if you visit most good Clan servers you’ll find this attitude isn’t as prevalent as you might expect. Clan players usually do play for the team on their own servers, even if they don’t on other publics. You just need to find good Clan servers. It’s worth the effort because when you do find a good Clan server the quality of game you’ll get is infinitely better than your average 10v10 or greater pub server.

(Basie) #20

I don’t take it as seriously as a clan match either. Thing is, the way our clan operates we aim for games to be played in good spirit, and to me that excludes pummeling an obviously inferior team into oblivion :bash: :smiley: I don’t expect everyone to subscribe to my point of view though.

I look forward to the day when my switching teams will actually make much of a difference…