Level 4 Covert Ops skill next to pointless...

(hurben) #21

I think Covert level 4 should obtain a grappling hook, and be able to climb walls. hehe

(Majin) #22

patchouli, all of those things you mentioned are just OPTIONS.
They are just things shrub thought some people would like. The server admins are the ones turning them on.

If the server admin wants you to blow up when you say a censored word, thats their business.

(SCDS_reyalP) #23

lvl4 covops may suck, but lvl3 covops is probably the best reward in the game. It makes all the SMGs and the MG42 have almost zero spread, even if you switch classes. lvl4 lightweapons is nothing compared to someone who has lvl3 covops. Bleh.
:moo:

(ETplayer) #24

just make the Covops knife stab leathel / instand death,
( not only from behind ),
so u can just stab someone and poof he is dead, this would be a good reward. Dont say covertops would be to good then cuz people can still walk backwards and shoot u.

(DrGratis) #25

Actually that is what lvl 4 covert ops gives you… stab anywhere and they are dead… but try walking up someone with a knife he might shoot you anyways…

I think lvl 4 covert ops should be able to go undercover by pressing a button and having a big red circle slash apear over him… (no uniform change) So a lvl 4 allied covert ops would look like a axis covert ops undercover as a allied cover ops… get it? :blah: :smiley: :blah:
That would be cool/funny

(Matt) #26

In the Steve McQueen movie, The Great Escape, he is escaping Nazi Germany, and in the process to get through a checkpoint or something he is wearing a nazi uniform, but encounters some nazi troops… They speak german to him, and I don’t know what else happens but this would be a funny thing for ET… If you think someone is a covert op, and you say to them something like, “Vhat iz ze passverd?” and americans have something they say, and nazis have something they say so if you reply with the american reply, or don’t reply at all, then the guy will kill you… Heh

(Ranstaton) #27

and as your covert op skill goes up, your accent gets better!

(AdamTheBastard) #28

DrGratis == WRONG!

once again I say RTFM.
“Covert Operations Level 4: Assassin
Your expertise with the knife allows you an instant kill with any backstab.”

*Emphisis mine.

(Rippin Kitten) #29

Lev 3 covert ops only affects scoped weapons. So the FG42 and Garand/K43 are more accurate and don’t “wobble” as much while using the scope, but any SMG fires with the same recoil. The MG42 is affected in its deployed state, since that’s considered a scoped weapon.

Lev 3 Light Weapons does reduce recoil on all SMGs. The spread is dramatically reduced, giving the SMGs incredible accuracy even during extended bursts.

RK

(kotkis) #30

Lev 3 covert ops only affects scoped weapons. So the FG42 and Garand/K43 are more accurate and don’t “wobble” as much while using the scope, but any SMG fires with the same recoil. The MG42 is affected in its deployed state, since that’s considered a scoped weapon.
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Not according to Wolfenstein for Dummies, http://hallelujah.wolfenstein.ru/rtcw/et/et_spreads.htm
Seems like a bug.

(Rippin Kitten) #31

To be honest, I thought you were full of crap. But I did the same test on a LAN server and it turns out I was completely mistaken. =)

The difference between level 0 and level 3 light weapons is pretty small. Even level 4 doesn’t make that big of a difference. There is a slight decrease that comes with level 3 but its not that big.

Then comes covert level 3. This makes all SMGs remarkably more accurate. I was amazed at how much of a difference this makes. You can open up with the MP40 or Thompson at mid range and not have to worry about burst fire. It also makes the Sten pinpoint accurate. I’ll have to play with this later tonight to see how it holds up in game conditions. But this does certainly change my impression of what the Light Weapons skill does.

RK

(Ranstaton) #32

I believe that one of the SD guys said that this was a bug and it would be fixed. I’m pretty sure they said that none of the skills were supposed to cross over to other classes…

(kotkis) #33

ETPro has this fixed :slight_smile:

(SCDS_reyalP) #34

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. :moo:

(Vink) #35

I think level 4 covert ops should get the instant kill backstab & they should also be able to run silently & maybe even silent weapon change.
I think this would be great for the covert ops as it can be very benefical to the class especially in some of the maps where you hear people before before you see them. I think it could also be easily implemented but i’m not sure.

(BlackDeath) #36

boy, this topic was pulled from the depths of the valley of sin :slight_smile:

I like Vink’s idea of silent weapon switching, that would be alot more beneficial than a “one-hit backstab”

Silent running would just raise suspicion. Especially if you see a guy glide past you without making any noise :stuck_out_tongue:

Or maybe have silent reload…

(Borsuk) #37

My suggestions:

At level4 Covert Op can see health bars of undisguised enemies

… ambush or run away ? No longer a problem.

or…

At level4 Covert Op needs only one backtab to kill, AND knife swings are completely silent, AND hitting someone with knife produces “hmpf” sound, just like throwing a grenade or reviving

I agree that Assasin is next to useless. Even if it was level1 skill from beginning of ET, no one would say it’s overpowered !