Lag ? Help me :(

(Your) #1

Hello, first sorry for my english, its not my native language…

i have some lags problems and would like to know if there are some tweaks to fix it. i already left the game some month ago because of the lag, and i start it again.

sometimes the game is really fluid :

  • good accuracy, about 40/48%
  • good hit detection
  • noobs calling me cheater
  • etc…

and most of time its really laggy :

  • accuracy at 30/33% even with spread shot
  • green arrow shooting at ennemy
  • lag delay (cant change weapon, ennemy move one second after etc…)
  • no hit detection, arrow stay white on people, even shooting from back

my config :

Proc : Q8200
Nvidia G94
4Go ram

my files :

-see attachments (rename .zip in .rar)

if someone can have tweaks, thanks for all. I have tried some tweaks but each time its more and more laggy lol

(r3fleX) #2

Do you have lag when you have a high ping or is it FPS freezing or what?

Erm i looked in your cfg and couldn’t find the commands below which sometimes can give lag. What do you have these set at?

  1. Net_clientprediction
  2. Net_clientmaxprediction
  3. Net_predictionerrordecay

Particularly the 2nd command can cause odd freezing i find when set at a lower value than default and clientprediction can cause odd hit detection.

If its FPS freezing when looking at your Auto exec and comparing to mine there are some strange settings:
[seta image_globalPicMip “0”] i find setting it at -4 for higher FPS
[seta r_shaderQuality “-666”] if your going for the lowest qualtiy then set it at 2 for a FPS boost aswell.
[seta r_megaFadeTime “2147483647”] not sure what this does but looks odd, try default
[seta r_megaTilesPerSecond “9999”] erm i have this set at 1 and seems to run smooth.

Thats all i can contribute for the moment could do with the first 3 commands being answered to know anything.

(INF3RN0) #3

This is the Quake Wars that most of us know. This happens to me and others all the time, while some very lucky few never have experienced it. I have tried to identify it as a connection issue, which it may be, but it is so random that I have no clue what the real problem is. Basically there is little explanation to why this happens, but some things I have found that help reduce the times that this happens;

  1. CCleaner (registry clean) http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

  2. Driver experimentation, you will have to test it on your own (any drivers above ver. x17 on my 8800M GTX cause constant fps drops in QW)

  3. Use the following cvars:

seta com_unlockfps 1
seta com_unlock_timingmethod 0
seta com_unlock_maxfps 0
seta r_usethreadedrenderer 2
seta r_displayrefresh (your monitor’s refresh rate Xhz)

  1. Do not use a tweaked low graphic config. I get better FPS on the default low settings strangely.

  2. Set the shader level to Ultra and all other settings to low (no idea why, but it feels smoother this way). Also no vsync.

Goodluck :wink:.

(AnthonyDa) #4

[quote=INF3RN0;228670]

  1. CCleaner (registry clean) http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner[/QUOTE]
    Useless and potentially dangerous.
  1. Driver experimentation, you will have to test it on your own (any drivers above ver. x17 on my 8800M GTX cause constant fps drops in QW)

I don’t see how it will fix his problem since it’s happening randomly.

  1. Use the following cvars:

Lol yeah, let’s use cvar to change the framerate to fix the lag :rolleyes:

  1. Do not use a tweaked low graphic config. I get better FPS on the default low settings strangely.

Then you fail. Also if you get better FPS with default settings, why should we use the cvar posted above ?

  1. Set the shader level to Ultra and all other settings to low (no idea why, but it feels smoother this way). Also no vsync.

Read above.

Goodluck :wink:.

Good fail, looks like you think that lag = performance issues, which isn’t since it’s not happening everytime.
If only you asked him to look at net_ related cvar or to check if it depend on server location …

(Your) #5

hello, thanks for the answers :slight_smile:

@r3flex

it don’t seems ping deals with the lag, sometimes i have 7/15 ping and good lags and sometimes 100 pings and no lag. My FPS is something between 80/120

i have tried to add r_useThreadedRenderer “2” (dotn know what it do), my FPS seems a littler better the lag is still here

i dont use any of the Net_XX commands, what should i put after them ??

i have change some of the autoexec commands you tell me, i’m just going to play right now, i willl tell you. Thanks

the problem is that yesterday on the .Trieb server i add a wonderfull game, no lag at all, lot of fun, so it seems that my .cfg are already good, but it is so rare. Let’s try thx

@AnthonyDa & INFERNO

thanks you too for help

(Napoleon.Solo) #6

Do not use a tweaked low graphic config. I get better FPS on the default low settings strangely.

This. I found that by dropping all the bars in the UI instead of using the tweak tool a lot of my lag disappeared. Everything else was just a matter of testing different settings. It is pretty time consuming but I found that stuff I had made other people’s computers grind to a halt and using settings others provided me made my game unplayable.

(Napoleon.Solo) #7

[QUOTE=Your;228679]hello, thanks for the answers :slight_smile:
i dont use any of the Net_XX commands, what should i put after them ??
[/QUOTE]

For now, just find out what they are set to. To do this take the following steps:

  1. Log into Quake Wars and open your console.
  2. Type in the command name (ie. net_ClientPrediction) and press the TAB key.

this should show you the default value as well as what it is currently set to.

(Kl3ppy) #8

Its normal, ETQW is a laggy ****.

(r3fleX) #9

Yea i think everyone experiences lag when palying ETQW, some more than others >_>
I’ve had lag in the form of freezes, people running through walls at me, people sliding (warping?) across the map and end up behind me, people being completely unhittable when i can visually see my crosshair on their player model… etc

@ Your, just type the commands i showed in 1st post in the console, and it should state what you have it set at and what default is.

Net_clientprediction - i like to have it set at 1 (some servers restrict this which i find EXTREMELY annoying as the hit detection with higher setting is aweful)
net_clientmaxprediction - i have it set at 1000 which is default, if lowered to say 888 or 555 i find it causes freezes every 5 secs for me but i have a weak internet connection.
net_predictionerrordecay - i have it set at 1 (default) but if set to 0 it can cause odd twitching of player models i found for some reason.

[QUOTE=INF3RN0;228670] 4. Do not use a tweaked low graphic config. I get better FPS on the default low settings strangely.
[/QUOTE]

I think this only occurs in your case, you probably just tweaked the odd setting wrongly which caused choppy frame rates, etc because i certainly find tweaking to a low graphic config alot better than the ingame options as they are limited choices. Also i dont use the ETQW tweaker programmes they don’t seem to be that effective, they miss some commands. I prefer to make my own up and even copy parts of other pro players cfg and tweak them to suit my playstyle/pc specs.

(lausl) #10

try a 16 slot server…much smoother. but lags are part of qw
be honest: you only fear the cutie patootie :wink: , allways a pleasure to play against you btw

(INF3RN0) #11

[QUOTE=AnthonyDa;228673]Useless and potentially dangerous.

I don’t see how it will fix his problem since it’s happening randomly.

Lol yeah, let’s use cvar to change the framerate to fix the lag :rolleyes:

Then you fail. Also if you get better FPS with default settings, why should we use the cvar posted above ?

Read above.

Good fail, looks like you think that lag = performance issues, which isn’t since it’s not happening everytime.
If only you asked him to look at net_ related cvar or to check if it depend on server location …[/QUOTE]

Umm… All these things have drastically improved my performance. And yes I think that much of the online lag is linked to performance issues not net connection. Since it is an online game though it is hard to tell if your actually experiencing lag from the net or just the game itself. Reg cleaner is fine and it has made many peoples games run a lot more smoothly. An old graphics driver would have constant fps drops from 200 immediately down to 20 every other second. I used to use a low graphics config, but there were certain settings that would cause stability problems and I couldn’t figure out what ones they were. Overall though I think that a big problem is that a lot of people have issues with game performance lag, and it happens randomly. His problem is nearly identical to what I have experienced and although I have a **** connection, it was partly a performance problem too. But I digress…

(INF3RN0) #12

QW is one of the most annoying games I have ever played just because of this…

(Your) #13

i have test that

  1. Net_clientprediction => is 20 for me
  2. Net_clientmaxprediction => is 1000 for me
  3. Net_predictionerrordecay => is 1 for me

@2babes having fun : haha it was you :stuck_out_tongue: yes i fear good players, but i love them too, because its good training playing vs them :))

(ED209) #14

I had issues of poor performance… My consistent problems with ‘lag’ were:

CPU: Had to upgrade to a Quad because my PC was working so hard when playing QW. Was basically maxing my CPU. Was only noticable in QW. I am using the same grfx card and get no framerate problems.

ADSL modem: Had problems with my modem, but the effects were obvious in other games/apps. Bought better modems but when i switched back to crappy ISP provided modem did my problems go away.

Other than that the lagometer is your friend. When you play the same servers again and again you get a feel for the expected performance.

(durkzilla) #15

Not exactly the same problem, but I also have noticed that with certain anti-virus programs I would get massive lag spikes at random but annoyingly frequent intervals. If you get stuck for a second or two in the game (you can’t move at all) but the little ethernet cable icon doesn’t appear in the upper right hand corner you may be having a similar problem. Try disabling your Anti-Virus before launching the game.

(Tandem) #16

all of a sudden, Salvage is almost unplayable

for the past few months
my lag seems to be related to certain maps.
It varies, but Salvage is consistent.

&

170 ping is smoother than 70?
(what is that about?)

=(

(INF3RN0) #17

Just found this thread and was like oh wow I have had this since day 1.

http://www.splashdamage.com/forums/showthread.php?p=208768

I was messing around with some of the net settings earlier (having no idea what they did of course) and somehow managed to get my lagometer to become quite steady (before it was a ridiculous mess) and reduce the spawning lag. The game almost played like it does offline, which was quite amazing. Can’t say for sure what did the trick, but I turned quite a few things on in the net_ settings that were off by default. Anyone who has weird issues with stuttering lag and times when it feels like your game is running at low fps when its not should try playing with these settings. Hopefully I’ll find a sweet spot that isn’t temporary.

(Donatien) #18

I have been playing other games for the last year and a few weeks ago i started to play again, but not too much (i became a CoD fan :P).

And the thing is that i find etqw more laggy than ever, but dont care too much. I think we all can give you lots of net settings commands but im pretty sure none will work for you the way you want.

And yes we all know that lag killed more people than cancer and stuff like that, but honestly i think that this combination is better than any net setting: the perfect mouse for you, the highest sens you can control and then play, play, play.

Anyway, i think you are a nice player and a very friendly opponent, so kudos to you man.

As im stoned now i cant ****ing find how to upload my cfg here, so you can add Curro and gie me your mail to send it to you later.

I hope it helps you

(Your) #19

ha Curro, its you :stuck_out_tongue: nice fight last time but i hope we will meet again on better conditions :slight_smile:

to upload a file just go ‘advanced’ and use the ‘manage attachments’ button ^^

(Donatien) #20

f5 f6 f7 f8 f9 are the class binds

/kill is the k

gun model is off

netpred is set at 30 and errordecay to 0

the mouse key config is for a G9

I cant upload it here lolzzz it says invalid file, so download from here

Btw, i forgot to say that many people use (and used) this cfg. It wasnt made by me, but i changed some settings after testing it.

I think cfgs cant make you godlike, obviously, but i can say that with this one you get a fluid gameplay if you are having problems with the fps