Is the KEK really op? Or does it just look that way on paper?

(Eox) #41

[quote=“Ferrett321;90715”]I think the kek 10 should remain the superior SMG across the board but keep it out of assault rifle dps territory.

Do I think the kek needs to be nerfed, yes. But just keep it to be the most superior smg because a lot of loadout cards are balanced around that principle, especially for pheonix - sacrificing get-up for kek10.[/quote]

Loadouts are not balanced around perks. Take a look at Bushwhacker : at least two of his KEK-10 loadouts have both the best augments overall and, well, the KEK-10. Now look at Sawbonez : his Blishlok loadouts does not have the get up perk, and the Blishlok is considered as the work SMG available for many. I can continue like this for almost every mercs. So far the game proved that there’s no logic behind the weapons and the perks available. Anyway, perks are not supposed to be such a big game changer : if Get Up is so mandatory, it should probably be tuned down.

(Szakalot) #42

[quote=“Eox;90761”][quote=“Ferrett321;90715”]I think the kek 10 should remain the superior SMG across the board but keep it out of assault rifle dps territory.

Do I think the kek needs to be nerfed, yes. But just keep it to be the most superior smg because a lot of loadout cards are balanced around that principle, especially for pheonix - sacrificing get-up for kek10.[/quote]

Loadouts are not balanced around perks. Take a look at Bushwhacker : at least two of his KEK-10 loadouts have both the best augments overall and, well, the KEK-10. Now look at Sawbonez : his Blishlok loadouts does not have the get up perk, and the Blishlok is considered as the work SMG available for many. I can continue like this for almost every mercs. So far the game proved that there’s no logic behind the weapons and the perks available. Anyway, perks are not supposed to be such a big game changer : if Get Up is so mandatory, it should probably be tuned down.[/quote]

it should, its definitely the best medic loadout in the game, and the 2nd best aug in general (after unshakeable)

(watsyurdeal) #43

Personally I don’t believe there should be a general purpose SMG, just each one should have particular strengths and weaknesses that the player can play around.

Like I would like it if the Hochfir had the lowest maximum spread due to it’s damage output and kill time, or the Blishok had the biggest bloom and biggest max spread, but good tapfire means you can hit people from one end of the street to the next with massive stopping power.

(Amerika) #44

[quote=“Szakalot;90767”][quote=“Eox;90761”][quote=“Ferrett321;90715”]I think the kek 10 should remain the superior SMG across the board but keep it out of assault rifle dps territory.

Do I think the kek needs to be nerfed, yes. But just keep it to be the most superior smg because a lot of loadout cards are balanced around that principle, especially for pheonix - sacrificing get-up for kek10.[/quote]

Loadouts are not balanced around perks. Take a look at Bushwhacker : at least two of his KEK-10 loadouts have both the best augments overall and, well, the KEK-10. Now look at Sawbonez : his Blishlok loadouts does not have the get up perk, and the Blishlok is considered as the work SMG available for many. I can continue like this for almost every mercs. So far the game proved that there’s no logic behind the weapons and the perks available. Anyway, perks are not supposed to be such a big game changer : if Get Up is so mandatory, it should probably be tuned down.[/quote]

it should, its definitely the best medic loadout in the game, and the 2nd best aug in general (after unshakeable)[/quote]

I’d argue that it’s the best augment over Unshakeable simply because Unshakeables main purpose is for a Fragger to survive a direct grenade hit/not be gibbed while being helpful on other mercs. But Get Up is useful for every medic for every single revive in every game.

I do agree it should be toned down though as it’s completely out of line with the other augments.

(TndY) #45

Blishlok is clearly the best smg and a contender for best gun in the game.
#l2blishok