Is Redeye worth buying right now?


(TheDoctorHax) #1

(Monty) #2

It kind of depends what you want…


(aRagRappy) #3

yeah if you’re looking for a mid range marksman(not a sniper) that uses slower firing but accurate and powerful weapons. He also has smoke grenades to provide cover for yourself and teammates when pushing through a dangerous area or maybe to cover a defuse. His second ability is great for spotting enemies for your team. The main problems with redeye though is his high learning curve because his weapons are rather clunky to use and the smoke grenades if used poorly can screw over your team. As a main note I would say hes rather similar to arty, much more so than vasilli because of the same amount of hp, using very similar weapons and their general playstyle of supporting the team just behind the front lines rather than all the way in the back.


(gg2ez) #4

Every merc is worth buying as long as it suits your playstyle and you know how to work with it. Wait until free rotation for Redeye comes around and try him out first.

In conclusion: As long as you know how to become an asset to the team with it, buy it.


(DMaster2) #5

Imho no. I buyed it the day of release and kinda regretted it. Hate his main gun and also not a fan of PDP and Dreiss.
My advice is to try him first, because it may be your best merc or a useless one depending on your playing style.


(Mescman) #6

Try him out first on the free rotation, so you don’t have to regret buying him.


(Canucck) #7

I never see anyone stream with him, or really even playing with him ingame, so I tried to record a bit of redeye gameplay. My OBS didn’t like DB (other UE3 games are fine though) so it turned out pretty shitty, one stutters and both have no sound… but here they are anyway


http://www.twitch.tv/canucck/v/11917371 (bit of stuttering)

It can be hard to find openings for him to be useful from time to time, but in general it seems like you want to be pretty aggressive with him. Cause chaos around the main fight or run down players on the fringes. The ones I see sitting back trying to be snipers all game never end up doing that well. If you want to be a sniper just play as vasilli imo


(ttownjoe) #8

Yes if you want a merc that is weaker than all other mercs in damage output per second. and on top of that offers no health packs/revives/ammo/objective/speed. Another failed gimmick merc.


(Szakalot) #9

learn to play with him


(ttownjoe) #10

learn to play with him[/quote]

No need, I know how to play with him just fine, nothing is going to change the fact he is a very low skill ceiling merc unfortunately, due to his poor damage output.


(gg2ez) #11

learn to play with him[/quote]

No need, I know how to play with him just fine, nothing is going to change the fact he is a very low skill ceiling merc unfortunately, due to his poor damage output. [/quote]

If he has such a poor damage output, that makes him a high skill merc. Obviously, you don’t know how to play him if you think having a poor damage output makes him a bad merc. Also you’re pretty sht if you think he las lowest DPS of all mercs, fckin’ Vas m8, you’ve gotta be a pretty special snowflake if you can’t evade Vas.


(Fate_6) #12

He’s pretty terrible. M14 is bad. Heat vision is ok but not great. Smoke is alright. Overall not worth it.


(Amerika) #13

I would like the Grandeur tweaked, specifically the sights and his smoke to be bigger to have more of an impact on a game. I know SD didn’t want a server filled with nothing but smoke and probably went a bit small on the smoke cloud size but it definitely needs to be increased so that it makes an impact on the game and would be a slight buff to RedEye all around.


(Szakalot) #14

learn to play with him[/quote]

No need, I know how to play with him just fine, nothing is going to change the fact he is a very low skill ceiling merc unfortunately, due to his poor damage output. [/quote]

low skill ceiling only means that its easy to reach maximum efficiency with the merc, not that a merc is weak.

Rhino has a low skill ceiling. It takes little skill to be as effective as it gets with the minigun.

Skill ceiling has nothing to do with how powerful the merc is, only how difficult it is to get there.

Regardless, RedEye has huge damage output. His gun is very frontloaded (it does a lot of damage quickly), just like shotguns; except that its viable at all ranges. Two headshots kill almost every merc in the game. 3 bodyshots also kill most mercs in the game.

The gun is definitely hard to use, and the ironsights are presently bugged, but RedEye can quickly put anyone down, if you aim right. Plus the frontloaded gun allows for peek-a-BOOM tactics.

Infrared can quickly spot an entire enemy team, especially when they leave spawn; giving your team a good advantage.

You can drop smoke and pick people off safely, or use it to deny an area/provide cover for your team.

RedEye’s skill ceiling is actually one of the highest in the game. It takes a lot of game sense and map knowledge to pick a good spot for smoke, and his gun is difficult to use.

I’m not saying redeye is the best merc in the game (he isn’t); but definitely not weak either!


(watsyurdeal) #15

I agree with @Szakalot Red Eye is definitely not underpowered at all, just hard to use.

And I think it’s a good sign when used in the right hands Red Eye can decimate enemies. Plus smokes are amazing for chokes.


(ttownjoe) #16

learn to play with him[/quote]

No need, I know how to play with him just fine, nothing is going to change the fact he is a very low skill ceiling merc unfortunately, due to his poor damage output. [/quote]

If he has such a poor damage output, that makes him a high skill merc. Obviously, you don’t know how to play him if you think having a poor damage output makes him a bad merc. Also you’re pretty sht if you think he las lowest DPS of all mercs, fckin’ Vas m8, you’ve gotta be a pretty special snowflake if you can’t evade Vas.[/quote]

No. poor damage output for redeye is what makes him a bad merc, his abilities dont make up for it… he is slow, offers no ammo or health support, and no quick eng abilities. His smoke is not dense enough nor last long enough, and blocks your teams ability to engage almost as much as the enemies. He is definitely not a high skill cap merc, becuase you run into his ceiling very quickly due to his bad DPS output. High skill players will be even more effective with most of the other mercs, even if they are good with redeye.

No i think Vassil is OP due to this games insanely low scoping time and low sniper recoil.


(Szakalot) #17

dude; 80hp headshots are not poor damage output, lol


(Boebly) #18

I’ve bought Redeye, don’t regret it because I have 14/15 mercs.
I currently don’t practise with him or think about strategies for him though, mainly because I’m waiting for the Grandeur to receive minor buffs (Less obstructive sights is all it needs IMO) and for the smoke grenades to be tweaked.
I always feel bad putting down smoke as cover ATM because I’m afraid that I might die slightly before the smoke goes up and that my teammates won’t be able to see enemies trough my smoke when I am dead.
This could probably be resolved by having smoke dissapear when the Redeye dies, though other playstyles such as trowing the smoke for cover to let friendly engineers repair would be nerfed by this.
Buff or not, it doesn’t hurt to wait untill a merc is on free rotation to try him out, or to try a merc in SP.


(sinKrin) #19

Loving Red Eye atm.


(deerMirror) #20

I would say no on the basis that Grandeur needs a little love, it’s just annoying to use even if you can aim. But if you get a loadout with the PDP or the Dreiss then i’d definitely recommend it or at least trying him whenever he eventually goes up on free week, but be warned he has a very high skill ceiling as you have to be very competent with his smoke or you risk screwing over your allies, all his weapons are marksman rifles so you need to be able to aim, and just a general higher map awareness really.