Is Nexon actually banning anyone right now?


(Amerika) #181

If I got you incorrectly, so did you. There’s nothing witty at what I said and if I took you out of context, it’s because of this statement:

[quote=“Amerika;211293”]…those people who have invested time/money into the game but still want to cheat might have ways of helping them fool the system.
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This is when all the lights lit up and suddenly, I see a wrong picture of reality you painted. Are you saying that they might want to protect their investment? Jeeze, with the number of players dwindling, it is defnitively in SD/NEXON’s interest to cull these players (not accounts).

You see, you claim that:

But you sideswipe people who presented and gathered evidence and claim that it’s about “personal narration out of anger and paranoia”, not to mention, someone’s “personal agenda”. It boils down to [i]you have an opinion of the matter[/i ] and, and I have the right not to agree with that. Like it or not, you need to respect that. Now, my opinion is also based on the fact that cheating players are still able to return and degrade the game experience for the rest of the playing public because of the partial reason that it is easy to do so and at the same time, people in charge of establishing fair play have their own “opinion” of how it should be handled. This is why I stated that NGS bans accounts and not the players. How players are able to play repeatedly on the same account, is something I cannot explain (not yet). This is the fork on the road where some players choose to go along with what you’ve been promoting, and others say there’s a better way. If you think less of those who do not conform to your explanation, no matter how “rational” you present your ideas are, your character never be taken seriously.

This is the fact where you’re wrong (I don’t know what other facts you are formulating in your head to get that idea). You have a very wrong opinion of me and that should explain why I should have a wrong opinion of you. Had I been angry of all this cheating proliferation, I would have done worse things; but it’s not about anger, it’s about the wrong mix of for the love of the game and frustration at which the game development and progress is going. This is what’s fueling my fire to find a fix, a better fix.

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I spoke plainly. I did not hint at anything or try to convey any underlying message. I have posted as much information as I can on the topic so that people can make informed and non-emotional decisions about what to do and how to respond. You, on the other hand, have taken what I said and twisted it to fit your narrative and try to make it look like I’m some kind of bad guy despite me trying to keep people from going full on with their torches out. I’ve explained why witch hunting doesn’t work and I’ve posted a video and explained other things that could/should be done because that’s the logical thing to do. I’m not trying to say that Nexon/SD is protecting cheaters, people who pay for cheats but also pay for in-game stuff should be protected, or anything else. That’s not witty, it’s not funny and it’s not welcome.

This isn’t a matter of opinion. You took what I said and then try to convey a different message by taking what I said out of context. And what do you mean by “NGS bans accounts and not players”? When you’re banned by NGS it bans your Nexon account that is tied with your Steam account. The players are fully banned from using that account ever again. The players themselves can’t be banned entirely due to very easy ways of getting around those bans via new steam accounts and new DB accounts and the ability to easily change IP addresses and hardware ID’s (among other things). So, can you explain what you meant here?

What is your “better way”? I’ve went out of my way to provide information on all the different systems and ways to make catching cheaters better/easier that is based on my own research, history as a full time AC admin for the biggest league in the world, a championship level player in multiple games, my time working with multiple AC developers, my free time looking up information and discussing it with peers and what I do for a living (software R&D…but not in games). Could you please provide all the relevant ways, from your perspective, that DB can become a better game with a better anti-cheat system as designed by yourself? You say my character can’t be taken seriously despite me doing everything I’ve done…well, let us see yours. Let us see that fire and have you detail a solution to cheating and how to combat it as opposed to you focusing on twisting my words to make me sound like some evil henchman who is trying to spread false knowledge so that SD/Nexon can make a few more bucks.


(Stokes1) #182

This is by far one the most boring meetings I’ve ever watched. Oh my, if I were there I would have fallen asleep.

[quote=“Amerika;211147”]This is a long video but it touches on a lot of subjects I’ve brought up on this forum as to why it’s impossible to stop all cheating. The video will help people set their expectations and what they can to personally and what companies can do.