Is it possible to change the Min. Level 20 Servers to 8vs8?


(Deleius) #1

Hi everyone.

I would like to know, if it is possible to change the Min. Level 20 Servers to 8vs8 or at least 7vs7?

Every time i filter the server browser the Min. Level 20 servers are empty. I can’t post a link to a screenshot, since this is my first post, but you can check for yourself ingame right now (EU-Servers). And it doesn’t matter what time of the day it is, they stay unpopulated.
You wouldn’t have to change all of them, but let’s say half of the Min. Level 20 (and Min. Level 10 maybe). Not even permanently, but at least for a month or two to see if they are “accepted” more by the players.

I personally like playing 7vs7 or 8vs8 and ignore 6vs6 entirely. And i think that there might quite a few players that are like me. And you wouldn’t harm anyone and take their prescoius Min. Level 10/20 6vs6 servers, because all the players (right now) could fit on two or three servers.

If it is not possible, then please tell my why, because i don’t see any reason, why you shouldn’t at least give it a shot.

[Edit: The following part is nothing new to the community, but i think i should add why i have the urge to ask the question]

Also i think it could help to get rid of, or at least reduce one of the problems Shoe introduced at the very start of the latest DB-Video, which he introduced with “You know what sucks?” slam slam slam slam MATCHMAKING slam slam slam.

In my opinion a big chunk of these complains - and that very toxic atmosphere you get - exists because Level 1 to 9,10,12 etc. get mixed with Level 40+x (I’m Level 40-something), 60+x, 80+x or even over Level 100 players and get their “butts kicked”, since there is no matchmaking in the server-browser-part of the game, as far as i know.

I know level does not equal player skill, but when player leave this game, what do you hear? “Matchmaking suxxs”, “all highevel in one team”, “of course you win with level 40+ in your teams - we only have <10 and one level 15” and so on.
And experienced players just “bully” low level players because they don’t play on “Max. XY” servers. They join the “freeforall”-servers without knowing ANYTHING, make it feel like a 6vs8 or 5vs8, and just infuriate the other teammembers 'til they lose their mind.

When i get “salty” it is also because you have to watch a guy wander around the map while you die over and over and over again trying to plant the bomb / repair the ev or just get near the obj.
Right now i’m at a point where i rarely enjoy playing DB. Most of the time it’s because one team has just too many players, who don’t know what to do. Even if i win those games, it’s just “Meh whatever.”
The best matches i had lately were, when i joined a server that was filled with clan-players…OCB or something like that. 3 on att, 3 on def, and coordinated players: a medic that heals, an engi that repairs, a skyhammer that drops ammo.
I miss servers filled with “i know what do to”-kind of players. I don’t expect some godlike skills, since i’m maybe average myself … well, maybe i don’t want it because of that. xD

And i know what some of you will say: Play 6vs6 or “deal with it” as it is on 8vs8. I tried for month and i can’t anymore and needed to make an account just to post it here. :confused: I need that 8vs8 “clusterfuck” as kAndyRew liked to call it -back then when he cared to make DB content. The more action/chaos, the better. Again, i think there are quite a few players like me, since most of the 8vs8-servers are filled at any time of the day.

Thanks for reading :slight_smile:

Sorry for boring you (to death), if this was just one of those topics that pops up every couple of weeks.

PPS: Sorry if this topic exists, but i just couldn’t find any “search”-function in the forums.


(nokiII) #2

no.


(X-aited) #3

not sure if troll or serious.
everytime i play 8v8 i get cancer. Even 7v7 are rarely enjoyable.
Imo this game should develop into a more competitive direction. When you are at this point you enjoying playing matches like the one with OCB you should switch to Ranked. Hell, its supposed to be the “I know what i do and i won’t leave”-Mode.

I know this mode isn’t populated very well but aren’t we part of the problem? -Nobody does play Ranked so why should i…
(I know its currently a glorified SW Mode but its supposed to be better)

Maybe you just need a DB break?


(aminuseternal) #4

what we actually need are 5v5 servers
you know
what the game is actually balanced and was created around.


(ExceedHero) #5

8vs8 servers are the definition of cancer. One giant spam fest, no strategy or team coordination involved.
If anything, we need more min lvl 10 as they tend to be all full when I want to join.


(supergonzo) #6

Stopped reading after title.
HOLY SHIT, NO.


(Teflon Love) #7

…with friendly fire enabled. <3


(Herr_Hanz) #8

i would like that. more people to kill = better clips. thats the reason i went away from min 10/20 after it changed from 7v7 to 6v6.


(Deleius) #9

[quote=“Xaited;204841”]not sure if troll or serious.
everytime i play 8v8 i get cancer. Even 7v7 are rarely enjoyable.
Imo this game should develop into a more competitive direction. When you are at this point you enjoying playing matches like the one with OCB you should switch to Ranked. Hell, its supposed to be the “I know what i do and i won’t leave”-Mode.

I know this mode isn’t populated very well but aren’t we part of the problem? -Nobody does play Ranked so why should i…
(I know its currently a glorified SW Mode but its supposed to be better)

Maybe you just need a DB break? [/quote]

As i said, i don’t care about 6vs6, since it’s no fun to me. I play only 8vs8 and 7vs7, if 8vs8-servers are full. So ranked and QuickPlay are no option.

As for breaks: I had some, came back for events and saw that nothing changed (for playing games you find over server-list).

[quote=“ExceedHero;204870”]8vs8 servers are the definition of cancer. One giant spam fest, no strategy or team coordination involved.
If anything, we need more min lvl 10 as they tend to be all full when I want to join.[/quote]

Right now (on EU):
Min. Level 10: 6 out of 8 servers with 0/12, one with 10/12, one with 8/12.
Min. Level 20: 6 out of 6 servers with 0/12.

As i postet in the afternoon: They are empty all the time. “Noone” plays 6vs6 on those servers.
That’s why i ask to switch some of these servers to 8vs8.

[quote=“aminuseternal;204860”]what we actually need are 5v5 servers
you know
what the game is actually balanced and was created around.
[/quote]

First time i hear this game was balanced for 5 vs 5 and i have never seen less than 6vs6.


(Sorotia) #10

I also have to agree…I try to avoid 8v8 servers…always end up with so much spam…especially when half the team is playing Nader or Skyhammer.


(luckyAge) #11

[quote=“talentedPen;204915”]
First time i hear this game was balanced for 5 vs 5 and i have never seen less than 6vs6.[/quote]

The developers say this; it is balanced with 5vs5 in mind… also you never tried ranked mode? that is exclusively 5vs5 …

Also I must agree with others… 8 vs 8 is horrible… just a spam fest of abilities and no skill involved whatsoever.

That being said… I also don’t see any reason not to make one or two of the servers 8 vs 8 … but as alluded to yourself, the likelihood of them being used is probably quite low.


(MarsRover) #12

I they were changed to 8v8 they would stay empty 24/7.


(Amerika) #13

The game balance and maps were designed entirely around 5v5 play. And in a game that contains a lot of abilities that can cover a large area and allows players to play as the same mercs you can end up with a lot of spam even in 5v5 situations. Scale that up to three more people per side and you get chaos. And 8v8 min lvl 20, at least with the way servers currently work, would be pretty awful.

Now, when community servers become an option later on I’m sure there will be plenty of servers that will be something like 15v15 24/7 Chapel only (No Snipers). And I’d wager that it will be full 24/7 too since some people really like that chaos.


(LifeupOmega) #14

Don’t forget instant respawn and !rtd for random bonuses.


(The_N00Ba) #15

When you pick a topic to look at I believe the search function should appear in the top right corner. At to why it does this I have no clue.

now I personally miss the min 10 8v8 servers I used to play in.
i found when you had a bunch of experienced players in those servers the battles were epic and still very organized considering the chaos factor
such good memories. :slight_smile:


(doxjq) #16

You’re implying the servers are empty because they’re 6v6 and people dislike 6v6?

Have you considered the fact that most of the playerbase today is under level 10? Low level players can’t play 6v6 even if they want to, and the reason most people over level 10 join the normal 7v7 and 8v8 servers is because that’s where the majority of the playerbase online is.

No one wants to join an empty server and wait long periods of time for it to fill up, so you’ll generally find that high level players all just join any server that already has players in it. I know this is the case for me and my friends at least. We’ll all join 6v6 servers if one is available though.

Assuming people don’t play min10/20 servers because they are 6v6 is just a terrible assumption :expressionless:


(Deleius) #17

I they were changed to 8v8 they would stay empty 24/7.[/quote]

As you can see below, others played on them before they were 6vs6.

[quote=“The_N00B;204953”]now I personally miss the min 10 8v8 servers I used to play in.
i found when you had a bunch of experienced players in those servers the battles were epic and still very organized considering the chaos factor
such good memories. :slight_smile:
[/quote]

[quote=“Dox;204958”][quote=“talentedPen;204915”]
As i postet in the afternoon: They are empty all the time. “Noone” plays 6vs6 on those servers.
That’s why i ask to switch some of these servers to 8vs8.
[/quote]

You’re implying the servers are empty because they’re 6v6 and people dislike 6v6?

Assuming people don’t play min10/20 servers because they are 6v6 is just a terrible assumption :expressionless: [/quote]

Yes i do, becuase they were hard to join when they were 7vs7 servers. After the change to 6vs6 the players left. Tell me what other reason there is that those servers lost all their players, if it is not for the change of the server-size.


(blonk) #18

Changing the min 20 servers to 8v8 is a bit extreme but having the option for such a thing would be nice through community servers, even though quite a few people would have their knickers in a massive twist over just the concept of these servers (I mean come on guys, this thread stinks of STOP LIKING THINGS I DON’T LIKE).

I do worry though that considering a lot of higher level players roll exclusively explodey mercs like Nader that 8v8 min20 would be even more intolerable than normal. As an experiment though I’d love to see what shakes out. Maybe restrict it to bigger maps only? Dockyard is the only one that seems comfortably big enough, maybe Dome or Chapel at a push but the first obj on both would be complete bullshit.

Not that I can see anyone over level 20 sitting on a server that runs Dome 1/3 of the time, never mind it being 8v8


(Sithas) #19

How about 1 lvl 20 8vs8 server? that way people that are high level and enjoy 8vs8 the most can play on that server and the rest of min lvl 20 servers become 5vs5 so that people have zero reason to complain: hurr durr me dont like 8vs8 hurr durr must be against it att all cost


(rhythmGecko) #20

Well you have to think, they are trying to introduce us into ranked by lowering the players so that its more like ranked… As well as 8v8 is 100% cancer. 7v7 Is ok but I agree with Sithas that we should have 5v5 servers. I think that would make a stronger connection to ranked considering how dead ranked is.