Iron sights vs optics

(iezza) #1

I always go for ironsigths, seam much much better to me, what do you guys go for?

(wolfnemesis75) #2

I use the Red Dot Sight on all my guns. But pretty much hip-fire regardless unless the enemy is dead center and I am crouching or not moving.

(Mr. Dogg) #3

Irons on most weapons. Whether or not it’s true, iron sights seem like they present significantly less recoil when firing all weapons when compared to optics.

(iezza) #4

Irons just seam much more “right” and more acccurate.

(Surkov E Jaeger) #5

Adjusted Irons. Oddly enough I can’t handle a scope too well IRL but hand me a gun with Irons and all is well in my world. Kinda the same thing in brink.

(brbrbr) #6

ironically, yes.
world-deadliest soldier in history, scores about 3/4 of his kills[both from SR and SMG]by using ironsight.

(Testaterone) #7

Optics are for small children who cannot appreciate the gun.

(Shadowcat) #8

If i was given the option to line up iron sights as I like (6 O’Clock), then i would prefer them, but as it is i usually go for the Greeneye because I don’t like virtual iron sights, they seem obtrusive to me.

(tokamak) #9

There’s also no reason to not take any sights. At least COD customisation had some real impacts.

(DarkangelUK) #10

True, which is the reason I chose optics simply so I can see more of the screen while shooting. I’ve always been poor with IS, I think it’s because 99% of the enemy is hidden when I’m aiming for the head

(Smokeskin) #11

[QUOTE=brbrbr;330013]ironically, yes.
world-deadliest soldier in history, scores about 3/4 of his kills[both from SR and SMG]by using ironsight.[/QUOTE]

Don’t confuse a target rich environment with the efficiency of ironsights. Holosights and scopes are much better.

Oh, and don’t confuse RL with games :slight_smile:

(Shadowcat) #12

I assume he is talking about Simo Hayha, in which case ALL of his kills were with iron sights to my knowlege. He used them for a few reasons, from the fact that he didn’t have to lift his head as high to use them, to the fact that they don’t cause the glint that a lens can, which would give away his position.

But as smoke pointed out, he was able to get several kills a day (~1000 in ~100 days) because there was an army marching through, not because of some huge advantage iron sights gave him. He used iron sights as a defensive measure, not an offensive advantage.

And none of this really has any relevance to the game because in brink the whole argument boils down to ease of aiming vs equip speed.

(Smoochy) #13

+1. same reason i use the holo sights

(Smoochy) #14

[QUOTE=Shadowcat;330150]I assume he is talking about Simo Hayha, in which case ALL of his kills were with iron sights to my knowlege. He used them for a few reasons, from the fact that he didn’t have to lift his head as high to use them, to the fact that they don’t cause the glint that a lens can, which would give away his position.

But as smoke pointed out, he was able to get several kills a day (~1000 in ~100 days) because there was an army marching through, not because of some huge advantage iron sights gave him. He used iron sights as a defensive measure, not an offensive advantage.

And none of this really has any relevance to the game because in brink the whole argument boils down to ease of aiming vs equip speed.[/QUOTE]

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/hayha.html

haha, funny write-up too for anyone (like me) who never heard of him

(obliviondoll) #15

For me, it depends heavily on the weapon.

Mossington, Adjusted Irons, on most SMGs, Red Dot, but a couple I stick with Irons/Adjusted, on ARs, depending on the weapon either Red Dot or a scope, my Drognav and Barnett have scopes, etc.

(brbrbr) #16

[QUOTE=Shadowcat;330150]I assume he is talking about Simo Hayha, in which case ALL of his kills were with iron sights to my knowlege. He used them for a few reasons, from the fact that he didn’t have to lift his head as high to use them, to the fact that they don’t cause the glint that a lens can, which would give away his position.

But as smoke pointed out, he was able to get several kills a day (~1000 in ~100 days) because there was an army marching through, not because of some huge advantage iron sights gave him. He used iron sights as a defensive measure, not an offensive advantage.

And none of this really has any relevance to the game because in brink the whole argument boils down to ease of aiming vs equip speed.[/QUOTE]

you assumptions about person was right. im talking about Simo Hayha.
you assumptions about reasons and conclusions was not[right].
ironsights provide you: reliability[both reliability of device itself, weather/dammage/misuse-caused errors/failures], lower profile[more stealthy projection with less [vulnerable]attack surace], less tunnel vision, better reaction, less weight.
and no. other soldiers have same “advantages” but they fail and fall, while Simo Hayha still with us.
his reasons to be deadliest ever [from his personal opinion]is : “practice”.
and practice tells him what to use, not only HOW.
point is simple: iron-sights FTW and optics still sucks, even being considerably improved last decade[more than whole last age].
so if you want to win, you SHOULD master IS skills, not only polish you lovely optics[this time its C7/ACOG derrivatives for NATO/BluFor AR-soldiers].
last years, hybrid systems, breach into mass-market, such as opto-mechanical systems ,fiber-optics, holo sights and D/N/Termal sights and move it forwars a bit, but importance of ironsight not lost. not even a bit.

(Shadowcat) #17

[QUOTE=brbrbr;330310]you assumptions about person was right. im talking about Simo Hayha.
you assumptions about reasons and conclusions was not[right].
ironsights provide you: reliability[both reliability of device itself, weather/dammage/misuse-caused errors/failures], lower profile[more stealthy projection with less [vulnerable]attack surace], less tunnel vision, better reaction, less weight.
and no. other soldiers have same “advantages” but they fail and fall, while Simo Hayha still with us.
his reasons to be deadliest ever [from his personal opinion]is : “practice”.
and practice tells him what to use, not only HOW.
point is simple: iron-sights FTW and optics still sucks, even being considerably improved last decade[more than whole last age].
so if you want to win, you SHOULD master IS skills, not only polish you lovely optics[this time its C7/ACOG derrivatives for NATO/BluFor AR-soldiers].
last years, hybrid systems, breach into mass-market, such as opto-mechanical systems ,fiber-optics, holo sights and D/N/Termal sights and move it forwars a bit, but importance of ironsight not lost. not even a bit.[/QUOTE]

Yes, we can all agree that Hayha was a badass. But what does this have to do with the game? The difference between Iron Sights and Optics in Brink is simply one of appearance and different equip speeds. Reliability, profile, weight, none of these are important.

In video games, Optics on their own are superior. It allows you to see more around where you are aiming, and has the same peripheral vision. So SD added a drawback in the form of a penalty to equip speed. Now players have to choose between ease of use and pulling their gun out faster.

There aren’t really any other variables, unless you include scopes and their loss of peripheral vision, but this topic is more about red dot sights.

(tokamak) #18

These things should affect accuracy and stability.

(matsy) #19

Crouch and Shoot.

(Shadowcat) #20

Might make sense; a high zoom scope is going to make you more accurate, but repeated shots are going to be near impossible. Red dot sights are going to be much easier to use with sustained fire, since they project the dot out to something like 10 meters.