Instead of releasing a new merc...


(bwort110) #1

when will u :smile:

  1. Fix comp matchmaking, its just silly
  2. Fix comp kicking players randomly
  3. give us statistics and not the “soon” button
  4. give us information about our rank? (When can i climb or easy: show us elo…!)
  5. grow ur player base! THere seems zero advertising right now. Player base ist constantly falling down.
    http://steamcharts.com/app/333930#All

(Feley) #2

New mercs were already prepared to be released so it wasn’t much of a job to release them… I am assuming they are working on all of those stuff you wrote above (there are priorities and f.e. 3. one with statistics isn’t really groundbreaking fix), and with each update, something there are some fixes, so with new merc there will be fixes too.

I on the other hand believe this game will rise, not that much, but it will… After all, with this community (I saw on the other post), it isn’t going to die. :wink:


(SteelMailbox) #3

They do all this stuff in BETWEEN content updates, a game won’t survive if it won’t add content hell even CoD almost died because of it.


(Zenious) #4

i think the opposite tbh.
this game will die unless there is changes implemented the joke anti-cheat system need to be scrapped in favour of a better one that actually works the nexon system has been proven to be terrible in other games.
As the Op said the balancing needs alot of work too every game you play is one sided
These 2 elements alone make the experience less fun and if a game is not fun people wont play it.
already my clan has gone back to CS:GO even tho this is a better game because its just not as fun.


(SteelMailbox) #5

[quote=“Zenious;73117”]i think the opposite tbh.
this game will die unless there is changes implemented the joke anti-cheat system need to be scrapped in favour of a better one that actually works the nexon system has been proven to be terrible in other games.
As the Op said the balancing needs alot of work too every game you play is one sided
These 2 elements alone make the experience less fun and if a game is not fun people wont play it.
already my clan has gone back to CS:GO even tho this is a better game because its just not as fun.
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Are you not listening they are trying to fix this stuff in between content and even in content patches you will see balance and changes to stuff NGS works very well for DB from what I saw and they are trying their best to balance, Why everyone forgets this is an Open Beta


(Zenious) #6

And i don’t think you read my post the Nexon anti-cheat system is junk. Its been used in other games and does not work at all.
who wants to play a game when you get spawn camped by aimboters and cant move without getting shot through walls then you get kicked for hacking (when your not) just to rub salt in to the wound lol


(Zenious) #7

Why they dont just release all the damn mercs already, they had 20 playable mercs during the closed beta. The fact that they are still in open beta is also a joke the game is finished all they need is more maps and game modes and its done


(SteelMailbox) #8

You don’t say that that the AC is not perfect THEY ASKED FOR FEEDBACK!
And the unreleased mercs are getting heavy balancing.


(Zenious) #9

While i respect SD are taking their time as they don’t want another flop like brink, that is dead 5 minutes after launch they could have this game in open beta for a year and the same might still happen because people have played it and had a bad experience in the beta and don’t want to give it another chance


(Yes) #10

I’d rather have new mercs over any of those.


(Ardez1) #11
  1. Fix comp matchmaking, its just silly

  2. Fix comp kicking players randomly

  3. give us statistics and not the “soon” button

  4. give us information about our rank? (When can i climb or easy: show us elo…!)

  5. grow ur player base! THere seems zero advertising right now. Player base ist constantly falling down.

  6. Which part of comp matchmaking is silly? Saying ‘Fix it’ doesn’t help much and it certainly doesn’t give you any credibility here. Provide solutions/suggestions, not just complaints.

  7. Competitive doesn’t kick players randomly. Either they were unable to connect, NGS crashed, they quit the match or some unforeseen cause such as a power outage/network loss removed them from the game. If you can show me some evidence of competitive kicking players out then please do.

  8. It has been stated in the stream, if you read the stream roundups that @Faraleth is kind enough to post, that the stats page is not a big priority compared to other things. It is still being worked on, but not with the same effort as other fixes/features.

  9. It has already been stated by Anti, one of the Devs, that the entire ranked system isn’t working out how they planned and they are seeing a very small spread in players ranks then they expected. The ranked system(which means all of the math behind the scenes) will be worked on and improved. Once that happens it will be quite a bit easier to move between ranks.

  10. There is none/little advertising right now because there are still a lot of fixes that need to go out. You complain about all of these issues/missing features, yet you are demanding that Nexon try and get more people to view them? That is a recipe for disaster if you try and bring in your best possible playerbase only to expose the games issues to them immediately and they quit in droves. Right now, while it is declining steadily, there are over 300,000 players in the last 2 weeks. Relative to a number of other games in a similar stage of development this is excellent and is a good amount to continue discovering/testing/fixing issues with the game, which is what a beta should do.

And as always, all of these things are coming ‘Soon’


(Draza) #12

And please, stop already. Every day i see this kind of posts, and I’m getting tired of them.


(Mister__Wiggles) #13

Op needs to look up the routine of game updates. We get a content patch and then a game tweaking patch, a steady flow of things have been coming and 99% of the community are pretty much pleased with this. The big thing people wanted was an anti cheat and we got it, the other things like match making are not as game breaking as the old anti cheat so hence the need to not rush this and make sure it’s done right. With the phoenix update we’ll be getting a new merc, bug fixes, anti cheat tweaks and the report a player function all in all it has the potential to be a great patch and we’ll find out Monday.


(Amerika) #14

[quote=“Zenious;73126”]And i don’t think you read my post the Nexon anti-cheat system is junk. Its been used in other games and does not work at all.
who wants to play a game when you get spawn camped by aimboters and cant move without getting shot through walls then you get kicked for hacking (when your not) just to rub salt in to the wound lol[/quote]

That is completely contrary to a lot of people I’ve spoken to or read in other places that said it’s been working out quite nicely and really cleaned up the cesspool that was Combat Arms compared to what it was before NGS. Sure, those games will have cheaters and so will DB. Nothing fixes cheating (unless you want to give up all privacy rights to your PC). So you should probably adjust your expectations. If it was all so easy to fix then cheating would have been stamped out 20 years ago. At least Nexon has full control over NGS and they have a monetary interest in making NGS work and keeping their games cheat free to keep people coming back.


(ttownjoe) #15

The shooting through walls is the most annoying thing ever, doubt it will ever be fixed, it’s the combination of the poor Unreal engine netcode (anitlag, smoothing, client frames resycning to server state) and the absurd use of client side hit detection (the real reason there is a cheat problem) in a supposedly competitive FPS. It’s sad to me that splash damage choice to use netcode that is far worse IMO than what they were using 10+ years ago. That said, i just shrug because I still love this game and just deal with the above even though its not great.


(Amerika) #16

Exactly when did cheating become exclusive to client-side hit detection? I am aware of some of the issues that can be caused with that in regards to cheating but you act as if cheating wasn’t an issue before this. The method may change in how you cheat but the problem hasn’t changed at all.


(bwort110) #17

Perhaps all the things will be fixed and the new stuff will be in the game, but for now its over for me. I played about 100 hours, 90 % comp matches and comp matches are broken. There is no fun for me at theese times anymore. I will check in e few months or not.
To be honest, i dont beleave this game will have a bigger player base than. In my opinion, they released the open beta too early. Many players left as the cheater appear. Many ranked player left cause the ranked is broken. For an Open beta there are so many features missing. Perhaps the ran out of money and that forces them to release.
Good luck to the devs, the core game is very nice, but there is more uneed than a good core game if u want ur game to have success.


(MarsRover) #18

Why? If you queue solo then competitive is just like a 5v5 pub with more cheaters. It’s like you purposefully chose the worst part of DB.


(Zenious) #19

The balancing needs alot of work tbf.
there needs to be an auto shuffle system so games are not reduced to 15 minute 6v2 spawn camps
i personally was in 2 games on the trot the other day that were 3v1, with an auto-detect and shuffle system those games would have been 2v2 and enjoyable.
Its a simple idea to have well balanced games that all can enjoy.
Not just the people being dicks and spawn camping because they have the strength of numbers and spoil any votes to make it a fair game just because they can.

while the other points the Op made are cosmetic at this point or just for dick measuring purposes the first point is a very important one that needs addressing. The balance of games needs to be at a point where at least the teams are equal in number (if not skill).


(Zenious) #20

@Amerika have you actually played Combat Arms ?