I'm starting to get sad about pc games.


(GR0MIT) #1

I don’t know if you guys like me noticed, that in the past 2 years 90% of games have turned to ****, like the devs don’t care anymore, and guess where it all started.

Yes you got it, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, it effectively showed the devs of most games that even if the game is broken and **** it’ll still sell and they dont even have to fix it either, hell in the black ops menu where you get all the world stats like 4,000,0000 tonnes of c4 was detonated, the game tells you Multiplayer is included for free with the game, so that leads me to think at some point they thought of charging us for it.

I personally think steam, valve and activision are the culprits of games turning to ****. Steam is a crappy system that bugs out mid game and can potentially ruin matches etc and the steam community are ****ing kids all trolling thier asses off.

Valve anti cheat, yea i think we all know that joke and the punchline is modern warfare 2 and any game after that, because steam/valve now seem to be considered a mark of excelence when selling a game and now were forced to deal with hackers on delayed bans who get upto 1 month of pissing us off before a ban is slapped on em, if ever.

You may have noticed a trend in my post, yea its the call of duty series, you know why dnt you?. well it’s because its the only decent game with a responsive control system, all other fps feel like im playing in warm honey, slow, laggy and generally unresponsive, like vsync is allways on. and it really annoys me that cod is the only worth while game thats fast paced enough, dont sit there and say battlefield or bad company is fast paced coz it ****ing well aint, takes 5 minutes to get from one end f the map to the other. Trust me i dislike having to sell my soul to activision everytime they resurect cod in some horrible necromancy based ritual every 12 months. im sick of it, but there’s bugger all else out there thats as tight and responsive.

Where did games like Unreal, Quake, CSS (cant believe i just endorsed that game), F.E.A.R combat, you remember, the kind of games that required mongoose like reflexes or a system full of drugs just to keep up with the pace, or is it all being dumbed down for those kids i get lumped with in any FPS i play who contribute nothing but filling the playing field with thier own bodies and handing a win to the enemy team.

In short im sick to death of the state of FPS gaming on the PC, but im sure as hell not gonna play on console, controllers don’t feel right, its like cutting glass with a hammer, wrong tool for the job. i’m not bashing the console guys, i tip my hat to ppl that can use a controller for fps games, ord knows i’ve tried but i cant do it without sitting there screaming “if i had a mouse and keyboard you’d all be dead” etc etc. each to his own i guess.

Im trying really really hard to like brink but im starting to loose the will and i think we all know Battlfield 3 will fail on an epic scale, no one will be able to run it above 640x480 coz its soooo good looking but it’ll be boring as hell on multiplayer because of map sizes, we know they wont change that or the battlefield fan boys will complain and rightly so, no game should have to change to try and attract others by alienating its allready dedicated fans.

I’m honestly at a loss here guys, im really getting tired of unfinished games getting progressively worse and worse. im sorry splash damage, you made a great game but it fell short on performance considering how it looks, the S.M.A.R.T is great, i cant fault it, its perfect in every way, but everything around it is loosing its lustre very quickly, i’ve defended this game alot and im starting to think all of these people must be right as so few are sticking up for it.

FPS gaming is dead, long live FPS gaming.


(tokamak) #2

Give ETQW a go.


(fearlessfox) #3

Valve anti cheat is good. It means that hackers can’t test their hacks as they can’t judge what happened when. You know what helps VAC work really well? Good server admins. In tandem, it’s perfect.

The rest of your post is subjectivity being thrown about like absolute proof.

Also, please:

Fix that. Thanks.


(SphereCow) #4

: \ Shooters do suck these days, but the developers aren’t entirely the problem. The consumers and publishers are, too.

Wish I could. Connection Reset error.


(GR0MIT) #5

[QUOTE=Luddens Desir;310795]: \ Shooters do suck these days, but the developers aren’t entirely the problem. The consumers and publishers are, too.

Wish I could. Connection Reset error.[/QUOTE]

Maybe i should’ve clarified that myself, thanks, publishers are the main offenders along with steam being a requirement.


(GR0MIT) #6

[QUOTE=fearlessfox;310785]Valve anti cheat is good. It means that hackers can’t test their hacks as they can’t judge what happened when. You know what helps VAC work really well? Good server admins. In tandem, it’s perfect.

The rest of your post is subjectivity being thrown about like absolute proof.

Also, please:

Fix that. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

You do realise those ppl just buy another game or manage to play without using steam or simply don’t get caught. valve anti cheat is a massive joke, the only real anti cheat is an admin but admins are human and subject to being ruled by thier emotions. “Valve anti cheat is good. It means that hackers can’t test their hacks as they can’t judge what happened when.” thats bollocks, they’ll use one hack untill they get banned if they have any sense, or they’ll use a VAC disabler, also any smart hacker will use a program to read the info and project it over a game in windowed mode for wallhacks, it means they dont have to inject anything into the executables which is the only thing valve check for. if you fiddle with the exe yea valve will catch you.

And the rest of my post is my opinion and how i feel, i never once said it was fact, simply how i percieve the gradual decline of FPS games into a perpetually unfinished state filled with garbage.


(Happymonster) #7

i feel your pain


(GR0MIT) #8

I did try the demo or beta of it when it came out, could’nt be assed running for miles to get anywhere, i dont like that kind of game, im not a tactical person, im a point and kill person, throw me ino the action right of the bat and im happy as larry. shame UT3 is’nt popular, that game was awsome and still is. but no one plays it, come to think of it, it still looks ten times better than most games today and is really fast paced.

ohwell…


(Pizis) #9

[QUOTE=GR0MIT;310811]I did try the demo or beta of it when it came out, could’nt be assed running for miles to get anywhere, i dont like that kind of game, im not a tactical person, im a point and kill person, throw me ino the action right of the bat and im happy as larry. shame UT3 is’nt popular, that game was awsome and still is. but no one plays it, come to think of it, it still looks ten times better than most games today and is really fast paced.

ohwell…[/QUOTE]

Team Fortress 2?


(GR0MIT) #10

Hmmmm, tempting but i think the gfx might make me puke, bugger it i’ll give it a try, i’ll go hijack a mates account and give it a bash, crist might even consider CSS (i hate that game but i have to give it a try).


(GR0MIT) #11

ARGH i so want this game to work ffs, i love SMART with all my heart. i have an uncontrollable need to punt a small furry animal now, where’s my cat gone.


(RaKeD) #12

What bothers me the most is that fps get so dumbed down.

They removed leaning, they removed recoil and the need to compensate for it.They removed using cover (you can shoo through walls).They removed the need to do headshots as you are dead when hit on the body 3x.Those are all things i love about Brink, the core infantry/shooter depth is actually existing.

Many even removed dedicated servers and proper support.

They added artifical bullet spread instead of recoil,something a player can’t compensate with skill, he is just forced to shoot burst or the artifical bullet spread kills of accuracy.

They’ve added ironsights and scopes to every game which i like but they change the sensitivity automatically,often adding 3 different sensitivtys to the game e.g. scope, red dot ,ironsight and so on…


(tokamak) #13

Word, UT3 was great, really old-skool action, and yeah the graphics were terrfic. I find it hard to grasp why UT3 runs like a breeze while my PC is struggling with Brink.


(fearlessfox) #14

The vast majority of people who cheat and get caught won’t keep doing it over and over and buying game after game simply to run cheat scripts.

In my 6 years of using steam as a primary MP delivery system, I came across three obvious hackers. That’s pretty good going.

Honestly, VAC is very good.


(GR0MIT) #15

[QUOTE=fearlessfox;310853]The vast majority of people who cheat and get caught won’t keep doing it over and over and buying game after game simply to run cheat scripts.

In my 6 years of using steam as a primary MP delivery system, I came across three obvious hackers. That’s pretty good going.

Honestly, VAC is very good.[/QUOTE]

Yea bull**** you only saw 3 hackers, you obviously know nothing in regards to cheaters or you only played one game on one server with admins spectating 24/7. im sorry but your talking uot of your ass mate. i see atleast several suspect ppl a day in most MP games, i know this coz i used to be a server admin for several clans so being an unbiased hacker catcher was something i learnt the hard way. lol 3 hackers in 6 years lol.

please tell me your joking.


(fearlessfox) #16

Ok, so you don’t like VAC… now that’s a perfect reason to lose your temper and use personal attacks and questioning my credibility. Good going, hope that helped you feel like you won the debate.

Let’s try your tactics…

ahem

Sounds like you’re just so awful at video games that every other person who owns your sorry ass is an obvious hacker. VAC is to blame for your shoddy gaming skills, and probably also why you’ve never been laid, and probably also why you can’t use basic grammar.

You’re right, VAC is just horrible!

See, that’s not very nice is it? :rolleyes:

Oh, and just so you know, I’ve been server admin more times than I can count. I’ve been moderator and admin for gaming sites and gaming communities, and part of competitive teams that won leagues and all sorts of lovely things.

I know a little about gaming, and I know how to spot a hacker. And my initial statement is true. Believe it or not. Perhaps you’re just unlucky.


(Szakalot) #17

W:ET might be something for you.

There is still plenty games to be had, its fast, its smooth (q3 engine) and its for free.

But its dying faster and faster, so its only a temporary solution.

A more general advice is to join a comp team. There is plenty out there that dont require constant contribution, if thats what bothers you; and the higher level of players will even make BF fast.


(SphereCow) #18

I’ve been banned on numerous occasions from CS games, even though I have never hacked anything, ever. If hackers weren’t so rampant and VAC really did do it’s job, things like that would not happen.

Texture resolutions play a huge part, I think.

[QUOTE=Szakalot;310878]W:ET might be something for you.

There is still plenty games to be had, its fast, its smooth (q3 engine) and its for free.

But its dying faster and faster, so its only a temporary solution.

A more general advice is to join a comp team. There is plenty out there that dont require constant contribution, if thats what bothers you; and the higher level of players will even make BF fast.[/QUOTE]

Download Wolf:ET 2.60b, turn on automatic downloading, and go here: 63.251.20.180:27960

It’s still absurdly fun.


(fearlessfox) #19

[QUOTE=Luddens Desir;310879]I’ve been banned on numerous occasions from CS games, even though I have never hacked anything, ever. If hackers weren’t so rampant and VAC really did do it’s job, things like that would not happen.
[/QUOTE]

Sure, it’s VAC automatically… it can’t just be horrid admins.

It’s not that hackers are so rampant, it’s that admins like to kick on a whim and use “hacker” as an all-round excuse.


(GR0MIT) #20

No i don’t like VAC or trust it for that matter, i’ve seen it not work god knows how many times while spectating people ingame, not hard to spot a hacker. I’ll be the first to admit when i get my ass kicked by a better player, hell i’ll admit when a bad player kicks my ass. I can accept these things.

I honestly can’t believe you have only seen 3 hackers in your 6 years of playing games. it’s statistically impossible for goodness sake.

Oh and if you want to insult me on a personal level in that way, fine. Not my problem if you can’t handle your word being critised or questioned.