How different is this from Brink?

(Atavax) #61

[QUOTE=RasteRayzeR;431123]Sry, argument not valid … can’t understand your question …

If I understand your question right, then being in a field of study or business does not mean you are good or bad, it’s person-dependant. But again I’m not sure I know what you meant by :

“there any company in the videogame industry you think is full of bad guys?”[/QUOTE]

my point was that your point that they weren’t a bunch of bad guys wasn’t a valid point. People don’t dislike companies because they think all the employees are evil. People dislike publishers because they see a promising game not get properly supported by them and as a result not live up to its potential…

(Leinahtan) #62

You know… if someone from SD came into this thread and said “Brink was, and still is, )!%&!)7. You have nothing to worry about DirtyBomb”, I might just up my founder support to 120.

(Mustang) #63

And they’re never going to do that, nor should they, nor would I expect them and neither should anyone else expect or demand such a thing, there is such a thing as professional courtesy.

I think deliberately not mentioning Brink in their teasers says enough in and of itself.

(Just to be clear I’m not having a go at you Leinahtan, I just respect SD’s stance on the matter and wish all companies would behave similarly)

(RasteRayzeR) #64

Now I see your point, but your know, it’s an expression to say they are not all bad guys ^^ I mean they are in the video game industry, they got that right huh =? What I meant was that most of the time the publisher / marketer work is not noticed by the gamers, and the point was that if a video game is not good or well prepared upon its release, it’s not just the fault of the publisher … Antharax is sure that this is because of Bethesda that the games he played were buggy, not finished, etc.

A video game’s conception is a long, busy and awefully hard work. There are so many reasons why a game could end up buggy, or just unattractive, etc.

(Leinahtan) #65

[QUOTE=Mustang;431206]And they’re never going to do that, nor should they, nor would I expect them and neither should anyone else expect or demand such a thing, there is such a thing as professional courtesy.

I think deliberately not mentioning Brink in their teasers says enough in and of itself.

(Just to be clear I’m not having a go at you Leinahtan, I just respect SD’s stance on the matter and wish all companies would behave similarly)[/QUOTE]
I am not trying to be evil… well, not that much. Its just this NDA and the lack of SD’s comment on Brink, that makes blindly committing a large amount hard. There are developers out there that tend to think every game they make is super awesome without realizing that it is utter crap. They even go so far as to zealously defend it (Blizzard/D3) despite the general consensus. I’d just feel better if they just stepped forward, went “We screwed up, not happening again”.

(Kendle) #66

I’m sure it’s been mentioned around here somewhere but I suspect SD are legally prevented from saying that, even if they wanted to. I would imagine their contract with Bethesda prevents either party airing their dirty washing in public.

The NDA is a killer at the moment, many of us would love to comment, but we can’t. All I could say is there’s no-one in the Alpha who’s saying “we’re wasting our time here”. :slight_smile:

(Kl3ppy) #67

[QUOTE=Kendle;431236]I’m sure it’s been mentioned around here somewhere but I suspect SD are legally prevented from saying that, even if they wanted to. I would imagine their contract with Bethesda prevents either party airing their dirty washing in public.
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I dont think that you really need to say something. When I first heard about Brink, was here in the SD forum, I was really looking forward. But with more time spend on it, and the closer it got to the release, many things were added or SD had to add in order to satisfy the console gamers. From that point on, I watched the Vids carefully and decided for myself, SD (had to) spoil[ed] some of their principles. Brink was dead for me and I never spend 1€ for it and I never will. In this case, I wouldnt blame SD alone for Brink being like Brink :wink:

(jamiewalker) #68

Are you asking about brink? It’s cheap on steam have a look, we really can only outline that we are on the alpha nothing past that.

If brink;
I felt like I was constantly in battle with the game to let me have control it’s hard to explain but when a game doesn’t feel right when you move it can be a bit much to keep at, the firing was too innacurate and overall felt clunky

(jazevec) #69

[QUOTE=Mustang;431206]And they’re never going to do that, nor should they, nor would I expect them and neither should anyone else expect or demand such a thing, there is such a thing as professional courtesy.
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It depends on what you value. Do you prefer courtesy, or openness ? Imagine if Splash Damage was your friend. Would you like him more if he was courteous at the cost of not being open with you, or blunt ? Do you perceive “not being open” as a potential problem at all ?

I would like it more if they were blunt. I think they as a company have two kinds of people to satisfy: their business partners and gamers. I think they’re showing they value business partners more. It’s not your job to worry about SD satisfying business people, that’s not your problem.

Honestly I’m surprised they continue to be able to release games. W:ET was successful. ET:QW was okay, but troubled, largely ignored by gamers and had niche appeal despite attempts to make it accessible. Brink was a failure. Their games are not stellar, developers better than SD went bankrupt after releasing better games. Yet they are making their 4th and 5th game. They must be very good at business talk and networking.

Compare DB’s communication skills with that of Triumph Studios, the developers of Age of Wonders games and Overlord. Here’s what they’ve already said about Age of Wonders III (a fantasy TBS on hexes, similar to Heroes of Might and Magic but more advanced):

http://www.ageofwonders.com/aow3live/topic/faq-thread/

The are active on their forums, and they respond to many questions. SD throw occasional witty remark or a joke. When put next to Triumph, SD seems autistic.

(Dthy) #70

Compared to the GBX forums, SD never shut up. Different companies have different approaches anyway.

(Kl3ppy) #71

hehe activision is the opposite of SD :oppressor:

(Antharax) #72

They make common horrible jokes/remarks?

(Breo) #73

Pardon :confused: Who said that? :mad::wink:
Brink wasn’t bad I think the deadline and multiplatform killed the game.

(rookie1) #74

installing Brink back now …:tongue:
might like it more now
Edit :How different is this from Brink? DB is Fun !

(Skletcher) #75

[QUOTE=rookie1;434083]installing Brink back now …:tongue:
might like it more now
Edit :How different is this from Brink? DB is Fun ![/QUOTE]
So you say that DB is just fun nothing more, without future ?

(rookie1) #76

I would like to say more honestly …but cant say much under NDA …They only thing i can say is that I enjoy a lot DB.
its still under Alpha many tests are done many new things to come …how it will be when release cant say idk …but im confident that it will be well received by public…anyway we are doing are best for this …but we know we cant please everyone

(.Chris.) #77

Wait till you play it yourself and make up your own mind on the matter.

I fail to see the relevance of someone liking or not liking Brink and whether they like or don’t like DB also?