help on (anti)cheating


(denizsi) #1

I’m so pissed off, I need to stress out by writing this. Is there a technical way to tell for sure if someone’s cheating or NOT cheating in ET? Anything, like some hints on log files, or whatever, anything except for watching the suspicious people play in spec mode?

this is probably a long boring PoS so if you dont like it, fckoff, I dont want to see anyone flaming, I just seek help. You can also jump right the the lastest pharagraph

Since we as a community (here in Turkey, there have been only a few servers where we can play, so the Wolf community here has been a tight, closed group of people where everyone knew each other) have been playing this game for about 3 years now (RTCW+ET), our cult (clan I mean) has always been around as far as anyone can remember. Honestly, we’ve been a mean group of people, most people disliked or hated us for we have always been rude, down to the point, had vulgar language when pissed off, and 4 among 9 of our cult are people with actual psychiatric disorders who often lost the edge, going berserk on anyone. But everyfckingone certainly knew we strived more than anyone else to make people play it right, understand it, not ruin it. We forced assholes to learn it, so we could enjoy playing it ourselves.

There were about 10 clans 2-3 years ago, almost all dissolved, especially when ET came out, there were only 3 active clans, one being our cult. Keeping my egoism totally out of this, I can honestly say we as a cult became the strongest. When ET came out, when all those clans vanished, people became kinda out of touch, disorganised, lacking the communication between the individuals, we literally ended up with no rivals, no fun. Tried to provoke people into forming new groups, and so they did, only in the last few months, people has started to group, and finally weve been talking about arranging a league. Seemed like everything was coming out ok. Though almost everyone still hated us but who cares, even though they knew how unstable people we are, noone could dare deny our role in keeping things together and going.

Anyway, all that 'twas until these assholes, who are old players as well, recently came up with cheat accusations at us. At first, we didnt care, it was just funny, we would play as usual and say things like “oh gee, I mustve forgotten to turn off god mode”. Like I say, it was fun for a while. But it started to become overwhelming. On forums, on server, they were repeatedly accusing us, implying things to drive us crazy, knowing that we would lose control. (Funny thing is, these idiots are in a clan whose each member has been involved in massing up things in the past, like faking people with fake nicks, even founding a fake clan, insulting people. It was us again who surfaced their masquerade. and the most annoying thing is, no matter how honest we are, how much we strive, everyone else will buy their lameness, almost everyone else believes them somehow. Fcking joke).
Well, tonight was the last of the same trials. They accused us, insulted us, drove us mad. Given the opportunity, the fcking stupid flesh pile (people I mean) go on us as well, we lost control, do stupid things, say stupid things, they take screens and demos and complain about us. I know, what they want is not to make us give up, they want us to suck, they cant take it, they such losers they have to throw shit at us when they suck, they want to change places, so we decided not to play for a while, hoping we will make them lick what they spit.

Anyway. I kinda feel better, discharged. All I need is a way to technically prove we are not cheating. Assholes. 'Twas the exact same reason some of us quit playing CS years ago. Fcking people.


(puds) #2

Hi,

  1. well for a clan game, anyone can run PB_CvarList to check your server punkbuster settings to verify that you are not allowing strange settings

  2. you can also use the punkbuster screen shot facility and publish the screenshots to a public website

  3. what else do you need to do apart from sitting down and taking some slow deep breaths and calming down a bit?

Puds


(denizsi) #3

well, thanks but those pricks have requested that PB would be turned off a while back for it caused loss or so they claimed. well, as for advice #3, im amazed to see myself so pissed. fycktards, I can see this whole thing will end up in a LAN match but I don’t believe they will end the nonsense.

one of those guys is like 10-15 years older than me, he must be something like 35, he’s a doctor. appearantly losership is open for all ages. he drives me crazy, i lose the edge and insult, then he complains all around how his wife was next to him while playing and that she saw all the unappropriate words, verbal assaults… and people buy that arguement and everyone forgets about the real deal. its like a sitcom. it must be real funny to see us pissed I guess

anyway, is there a way, any way to get these cheat apps work in a pure server? as far as i know, they work only on impure servers, and our servers have always been pure.


(-)iw(-Death) #4

Punkbuster is your friend…Cheat apps work on pure or none pure servers.


(puds) #5

impure servers and no punkbuster, time to move on i think…:confused:


(blushing_bride) #6

Is there any reason why you are unable to play on other servers in different countries? The reason i ask is becasue it sounds like your clan is the big fish in your pond and you might have more fun by swimming out to sea if you get my meaning. Shit players often accuse good players of cheating, this happens all the time and there is nothing you can do to get rid of their silly thoughts.


(denizsi) #7

yeah, appearantly we’re so big, they don’t even have space to breath.
the reason for being unable to play on other servers is, as expected, high pings. sometimes I find german or norweggian servers with playable pings as low as 120, considering theyre foreign, other than that, the average ping is around 350, and we get 30-60 where we play


(p0ny*) #8

THIS THREAD IS FRIGGIN’ RIDICULOUS, A$$H0LE!!!

ummm, I’m so sorry, no offence, I’ve got tourette syndrom, see?

:moo:


(denizsi) #9

you see, those guys at where we play are just like this pony kid

people just dont pay fcking respect.


(p0ny*) #10

glad you got my point.


(Fenris) #11

Thinking of others in terms of assholes or idiots and telling them to “fuck off” if they don’t comply with your mood, I fully understand why they might hate you.

Anyway, if it’s your server and you want to be cheat-free (as far as possible) and as stated by yourself if I read you correctly, you don’t really care about others opinions, then I can’t understand why you’ve chosen to disable punkbuster ?

Ok so people claim they have a problem with it (causing packetloss?), let them solve their problems then, either by getting a working installation or playing elsewhere. They could always also go for asking for support themselves from Evenbalance or any of the forums, others do.

Just my opinion on the subject.


(DG) #12
  • play with PB enabled for known cheat detections
  • play with PB enabled and autoss enabled to spot unknown cheats
  • use decent set of cvar restrictions (again, needs PB).

If you’re not playing with PB enabled, then lol, PB is the anticheat.


(denizsi) #13

ooh I must be such a dumbass!

it’s not OUR server in ownership means and since the stupid are the majority…


(=MLK=FOO) #14

WTF is this dood talking about? Anyone got a translation?


(p0ny*) #15

I’ll give it a try:

background:
denizsi + his m8s aka cult= mean badasses with insane ET skills; other people = whiners, haters, kids [need to pay some fcking respect]
problem:
how to make whiners, haters, kids pay some fcking respect to denizsi + his m8s aka cult about insane ET skills

there was also something about cheats but I did’nt get that part, sry.
:moo: