Hacking is out of control (two more - video proof included)


(joekerr) #1

The amount of hackers in this game is growing every day.

Here is footage of two more hackers (I suspect they are the same person, as once he got kicked, another showed up a minute later… probably same guy, just different account).

[removed – please submit reports appropriately – thank you!]


(arcane) #2

Just played this [removed – please do not single out other players on the forums] - clearly cheating with aimbot, he just went 51-0 in the game I played. Why do these people cheat in Beta’s I don’t understand what they achieve other than ruining other peoples gaming experience.


(joekerr) #3

They either:

  1. are testing their hacks before selling them.

or

  1. They want to rack up xp/GC faster (these hackers usually at least try to cover up they are hacking)

or

  1. they work for competing video game companies and want to ruin the gaming experience for this game (and hence destroy the player base)

or

  1. They are mentally ill and MUST be #1 all the time so cheat to achieve that.

That’s my take on cheaters :blush:


(DadoPeja) #4

Had 1 today in game, still not sure if he hacks but he was to good with ak like he had no recoil, his bullets are like magnet, anyone he sees is dead. And very few headshot - like a lucky headshot. And i feel like there are more like him who are hiding and still cheating.

Also with this spectate we got that is laging and inaccurate its hard to actually record someone and see if he uses hack or not… idk


(Runeforce) #5

How come it’s so fucking hard to understand(?): don’t name and shame on the forums, but report it to nexon customer serice! This thread is in violation of forum rules.


(DadoPeja) #6

Maybe if they get better anticheat ppl will stop name and shame -.-


(joekerr) #7

that’s fair. I hadn’t read the forum rules so I didn’t know.

the mods can feel free to delete it if they choose.

I will say I don’t know what benefit there is to reporting it though as the hackers are getting worse. At least this way, if people know someone is hacking they can just get out of a server when they see them as opposed to wasting 10-20 minutes before they realize there’s a hacker there.


(crimsonYouth) #8

I want to know who started this “Dont name and shame” BS… they are ruining the game for people so i say the cheaters! … plus do you really think it is shaming?

These people dont care that they are being called out, in fact some of them are posting links for people to BUY the cheats. So not only are they ruining the game but some are profiting from it too.


(srswizard) #9

Really who gives a fuck about the reputation of cheaters who are this obvious?
Sure threads like these might be against the rules, but some rules are simply shit.

I’m worried for this game’s future, and sweeping evidence of cheaters, under a rug, is some very poor damage control.

The cheater problem, and gamebreaking bugs that haven’t been patched in these years of testing (read: can’t be fixed because of the game engine), are going to be the demise of this game’s competitive scene.

Still hoping to see proper VAC support, and not some budget compromise.


(DadoPeja) #10

^^ Yep that “Dont name and shame” rule is crap and every freacking tread with it gets closed, it feels like u are on cheaters side.
Also saw all the shit u need to know to report a hacker http://prntscr.com/73igad cmon i dont have time to think on wich server i joined or what time it was( also i have to convert the time to PST cmon what is this a job?) - and what is the “enter the name of one character you created in game” (merch, my name) ?

Anticheat and in game report ASAP

  • also option to save the hole game in spectate mode and a specific video opener in game or something, and make the video to save with minimal amount of mb’s) If u wanna check what i mean - i remeber that from fps game i played long ago = Crossfire - they have it in there! = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3m25DTGsW4

And spectate has some problems , it lags and its innacurate (not showing sniper shooting the head but he gets headshot and similar stuff) - look into this pls, cuz its harder to detect cheater that are hiding the hack.

@MissMurder


(arcane) #11

Come on guys calm down, it is only the Closed Beta, so better anti-cheat will most likely be added before full release.

But, I have to agree the no name and shame policy does not sit well with me, I could understand if it was their personal details people were handing out, but it’s only their gamer handle that is being exposed. Also, it cannot be classed as discrimination or hatred towards them if there is solid evidence proving that they are in fact cheating, i.e video evidence.

I advocate a pro active community that is willing to make these videos and post them on forums to let everybody see who the cheaters are and to get them known so that any game they do join, they can be voted off before it has even started. That way cheaters would get bored quickly.


(CC_FANG) #12

Hey, folks.
Those that have said this is against the rules are quite correct.
It has nothing to do with “protecting cheaters”, in fact it’s quite the opposite. Your reports need to go to the GMs, who can actually do something about it. When reports are made here on the forums, they are likely to be missed by those who can deal with them, and often it results in a lot of arguing about who is legit, oh you are just mad you got owned, etc etc etc. As young as this community is, I have seen it here already.

The name & shame policy is in place to protect the community. It protects you if some new player mistakenly suspects you must cheat because you had an awesome game. It protects you from harassment and those who believe everything they read, true or not. It is a blanket policy that applies to everyone. The only ones that can officially say if someone is cheating or not are the GMs. Having them approve forum posts is redundant and would slow down what we all really want - action taken on cheaters.

Now that being said, I personally am passionately against cheating and exploiting. I support reputable community efforts to promote fair gameplay. However, displaying evidence and names in the official forums for this game is not the way to go about this. This policy is common to other games Nexon publishes and is unlikely to change.

I’ve been kind of easygoing on this because there was no firm policy set and so forumers simply did not know there was a rule about this. For most of the reports I’ve edited or removed, I have gotten a PM from the OP, apologizing and thanking me for directing them to the proper place to submit their reports. I don’t believe anyone is out to break rules, and I have truly appreciated how cooperative everyone has been. Going forward, though, I am going to be removing all evidence and names of players singled out for negative purposes. If you see such a thing feel free to let me know - I can’t be everywhere! :slight_smile:

I really encourage you all to avail yourself of the abuse report form. You may have seen GM-Radrodo around, he’s a good guy and will take action if the situation warrants. If you’re one of the players who takes the time to get evidence and send in a report, then thank you - your actions will help make this game better for us all.


(ayybee) #13

It is something you will see a lot of in a free to play game. An amazing anti cheat anti cheat developers would be needed to fix this.


(Kroad) #14

[quote=“CC_FANG;18124”]
The name & shame policy is in place to protect the community. It protects you if some new player mistakenly suspects you must cheat because you had an awesome game. It protects you from harassment and those who believe everything they read, true or not. It is a blanket policy that applies to everyone. The only ones that can officially say if someone is cheating or not are the GMs. Having them approve forum posts is redundant and would slow down what we all really want - action taken on cheaters.[/quote]
if a new player comes on forums and calls someone a hacker with no proof (hell, even if an experienced one does it), he’ll just get laughed at. This only protects people who are reported with some proof that is suspicious.


(CC_FANG) #15

[quote=“Kroad;18144”][quote=“CC_FANG;18124”]
The name & shame policy is in place to protect the community. It protects you if some new player mistakenly suspects you must cheat because you had an awesome game. It protects you from harassment and those who believe everything they read, true or not. It is a blanket policy that applies to everyone. The only ones that can officially say if someone is cheating or not are the GMs. Having them approve forum posts is redundant and would slow down what we all really want - action taken on cheaters.[/quote]
if a new player comes on forums and calls someone a hacker with no proof (hell, even if an experienced one does it), he’ll just get laughed at. This only protects people who are reported with some proof that is suspicious.
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No, it’s better for everyone. I’ve seen so much falsified evidence you would not believe. I’ve seen hacks literally designed to frame legitimate players and groups of people who did just that - reporting high ranked players or anyone they had a grudge against. I’ve seen forums designed for reporting becoming a useless jumble of drama, good reports, QQ, arguing players, fake evidence, mistaken accusations, and the like.


(joekerr) #16

[quote=“CC_FANG;18124”]Hey, folks.

The name & shame policy is in place to protect the community. It protects you if some new player mistakenly suspects you must cheat because you had an awesome game. [/quote]

I can understand this logic, but just realize that while it protects the community it also protects the cheaters. The truth is that most players are not going to record video and submit it to nexon, it’s a huge hassle. I only did it because 1) I have software that makes the whole process very fast 2) I can record video while in game without affecting my PC performance and 3) I’m getting sick of the increase in hackers.

I’d say also that without an adequate method of dealing with hackers (or exposing them) all that will happen is that you’ll direct people away from these forums onto places like reddit, youtube, or steam. So the ‘name and shame’ will still occur, just on steam or reddit.

I’ve never really understood why people are concerned about “name and shame”… if someone isn’t hacking then the video will exonerate them.

The only thing in your reply though that I find sort of concern is that you’ve seen people faking hacker footage to harm a player. If that has happened then how can you ever catch a hacker? I mean, what level of proof is required if the video itself can be faked? (not really sure how you’d do that either… faking video is not an easy thing to do).

Anyway, SD has a growing problem on its hands.

“Tell it to nexon” is an inadequate response to the situation in my opinion.


(CC_FANG) #17

It’s the only response. Nexon’ obviously can’t control what people post on other sites, but their concern is for these forums, and maintaining a certain standard. There are certain things they want here, and certain things they don’t, and we all have to abide by their rules – it’s their forums and we’re all guests here.

I sense a bit of doubt in your reply, and while I’m not about to go dig up proof and post it here (it would be against the rules, anyway) there generally are ways to tell if you know the game well enough. The video itself does not need to be edited/altered if what’s being recorded is engineered to frame someone.


(joekerr) #18

Which is fair/fine. I respect that, even though I disagree with it.

I love the game, so I’m not trying to trash it… just pointing out that this is a growing problem. Nexon / SD’s currently method of dealing with it is not going to be adequate (ie. keep complaints off the forums, email nexon and/or use a broken vote system to try and kick hackers).

But who knows, maybe I’m wrong.


(CC_FANG) #19

What will make the difference is people just like you, who care enough to take the time to report and lobby for improved procedures. People with good, solid suggestions and those who are able to see an area that needs improved and let the powers-that-be know it, in the correct way, of course. :slight_smile:


(arcane) #20

So basically we have to go through a horrid report process. Great