In your guy’s opinions, which is a better gun for the engineer, the K7 Rifle Grenade or the MP40? I have always been trying to figure this out since the Rifle Grenades make for a quick easy kill, but, when in a close firefight, the MP40 kicks ass since the K7 is so damn slow. I mean, then you have the added burden on being called a “pussy” for using the rifle grenades. Also, the getting trapped at the spawn on Axis in the Railgun map is getting soooo irritating, not that the Axis don’t get chances for payback in levels such as Fuel Dump.
Guns to use...
Cyber-Knight
(Cyber-Knight)
#2
i usually always use smg’s.
But i’ll lean towards rifle grenades when:
-i have akimbo pistols
-larger servers, cuz most of your team has smg’s already and usual a special weapon like rifle grenades make a bigger difference
-I plan to use the rifle grenade for a specific reason or specific target to kill.
-When I know I have no dyno to plant or no things to construct. nothing is worse than going up to your dyno objective after killing 4 enemies to find out you needa wait 10 seconds for your bar to charge so you can plant.
rgoer
(rgoer)
#3
People assume that the rifle-nades are the only reason for the engie to pick the K43/Garand. The rifle itself isn’t that bad, and I find that as long as I don’t try and use it for long-range battles (where rifle-nades become apropriate) the rifles can own close-range firefights against SMG guys. Within about fifty “feet,” headshots are a cinch with the rifle. You’ll get accused of cheating. You won’t play with the SMG any more when you’ve got a choice.
Ranstaton
(Ranstaton)
#4
Yeah, I usualy try to remind people that there is a rifle attached to that grenade launcher. It is quite pathetic popping up in one of these fools faces and having him fire off that grenade he already has loaded. Most of the time they miss and go flying off harmlessly while I blast them in the face.
I would definetly go SMG if you were allies unless there is a specific reason for using rifle grenades such as when you need to clear out the gold room. Other than that, rifle grenades, in my opinion, are a worthless waste of an engineers energy.
People who rely on them make me sick! :weird:
SCDS_reyalP
(SCDS_reyalP)
#5
Mmmm, either your ‘feet’ are a lot smaller than mine, or you got a better rifle:
left side: 8 shot from garand, holding completely still, not moving the mouse.
right side: 10 single shots from the mp40, fired about as rapidly as the garand shots.
Notice that getting a headshot with the garand at that distance would have been pure luck, while with good aim, most of the mp40 shots could have been headshots.
Notice also that is level 0 light weapons. The mp40 gets better, the garand does not.
T2kickass
(T2kickass)
#7
Hey, at least it’s great for clearing out the anti-tank guns room when you see the yellow glow of the dynamite . 
And you wouldn’t want to use it for long range, CQC is where it really shines (well…abit)
Just hop towards the guy while rapidly clicking your left moust to inspire FEAR with the deadly Garand!!
Kerunch
(Kerunch)
#8
Has Pb seen that screenshot of SCDS_reyalP as that bloody laser gun is not in my version of ET. 
deception5
(deception5)
#10
Has Pb seen that screenshot of SCDS_reyalP as that bloody laser gun is not in my version of ET.
Really? How do you cut through the walls to escape spawn camping then?
The_Jesus_Zeppelin
(The_Jesus_Zeppelin)
#11
ya know…i just like the mp40 for 1 reason, oh wait iver always been a sniper, guess i have no opinion on this, guess i better not post, guess i better just stop typing, guess i better leave now, guess i better go eat a sandwich, guess so…
Sick_Boy
(Sick Boy)
#12
The rifle is a good weapon to defend, but not so great to attack imho. Add to that that it uses power bar, and you need that powerbar as an attacking engi, I almost always use the smg. Except for the bank :drink:
Miles_Teg
(Miles Teg)
#13
I’ll tend to take the grenade rifle over the smg, for a few reasons:
- I’m half-competent with rifle grenades, and suck with the smg.
- Situations where a grenade rifle is more useful than a smg are quite common.
- Most of the rest of the team probably have smgs.
When I first started using the weapon, I fell into the folly of ignoring the rifle part of the weapon. I would frequently get killed as I was loading another grenade on after failing to kill someone with my first shot (or perhaps killing someone and then getting killed by their teammate). I now very rarely get killed while defenceless in the same way. And as an attacking engineer, you develop a sense of when you really need to conserve your power bar for objectives. That said, when trying to get the tank over the bridge on Fueldump or going through the backdoor on Battery to plant at the gun controls, smg will probably be a better choice.