Grandeur M4-10

(iPod_) #21

The gun is “meh” i mean the gun itself isnt something you would just run around with its something you have to like stop and fire in short control bursts for steady accuracy. Overall the gun is powerful when its used right.

(Parmenion) #22

[quote=“titaniumCrouton;61367”][quote=“Parmenion;61362”]The gun is amazing 23/3 yesterday with it, you destroy everyone with 2 hits if you manage to get 1 HS. You just need to take your time, if you get the HS you have plenty of time to put a second bullet where you want.

It’s strong at every range, it’s a beast for counter vaseline and you can OS Aura and Spark.
I’m glad you guys don’t like the gun, you won’t start the OP machine whine and he won’t get a nerf.[/quote]

I thought aura had 90 hp, thus you only bring her down to 10 hp. unless she got winged or something. That said I love the gun and it’s the only one i’ll use on him, i just think it needs a small buff…like fixing the sights or something o-o. [/quote]

Aura & Spark have 80hp, Proxy & Kira 90hp

(Shroed) #23

the weapon is pretty nice, they just have to adjust something about the sights because they don’t seem to be 100% accurate(even when taking time lining up a headshot at med range)

would be nice if the accuracy of the second/ third shots would be a little better (lower the time it takes the gun to become 100% accurate again a bit)

but all things considered it’s a decent gun on release imo, not over- or underpowered

(Edzer) #24

[quote=“Amerika;61317”]I spent quite a bit of time with Redeye tonight and used all three weapons quite a bit (and I have a lot of Dreiss and PDP experience already). The PDP on him is definitely strong even with it being nerfed in the last two patches. Most likely it was nerfed almost entirely because of how good it is through smoke. The Grandeur is OK. It’s weird. You have to fire it at a very strict cadence and it feels like it’s DPS is pretty low even if you fire it optimally and I am not a fan of the sights so far. It’s hard to be consistent with headshots.

I need more time but so far the early clear winner, if you’re playing a more traditional Vassili role, is the PDP.[/quote]

Actually feeling that the PDP is way easier to controll now. The nerf in penetration and ROF aren’t really that painful and the reduced recoil is really sweet.

(Szakalot) #25

@titaniumCrouton Actually, mid-range is imo the worst distance for redeye to engage people at. Its too far to hipfire, but too close to ADS effectively. RedEye is the best when picking people off at a distance with huge damage, or at pointblank where the accuracy dropoff means little.

(SaulWolfden) #26

I generally don’t have that much of a problem with it, the only thing I’ve noticed is really the sights which don’t seem to be fully lined up, a red dot sight or correction to the iron sights would fix this.

(titaniumCrouton) #27

I disagree. I’ve had no problems engaging at any distance really…unless it’s vs a Vas…Don’t try to fight a vas. :confused: doesn’t end well most of the time.

(Szakalot) #28

I disagree. I’ve had no problems engaging at any distance really…unless it’s vs a Vas…Don’t try to fight a vas. :confused: doesn’t end well most of the time.
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sure you can engage at any distance, but imo the gun is the worst at that range. Actually its the worst at mid-close range; you either gotta keep your distance or go straight at their face.

I’ve played redeye for months back in the day, but i guess its all about your playstyle as well (i rely more on hipfire, and only use ADS situationally)

(titaniumCrouton) #29

I disagree. I’ve had no problems engaging at any distance really…unless it’s vs a Vas…Don’t try to fight a vas. :confused: doesn’t end well most of the time.
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sure you can engage at any distance, but imo the gun is the worst at that range. Actually its the worst at mid-close range; you either gotta keep your distance or go straight at their face.

I’ve played redeye for months back in the day, but i guess its all about your playstyle as well (i rely more on hipfire, and only use ADS situationally)[/quote]

Whatever works, works.

(moonlitAbility) #30

Ironically, i seem to be able to aim it better from the hip (if im controlling the rof). but in ADS, the sight feels broken, and if you fire it anywhere even close to its top ROF from the hip it feels broken after the first shot. I used to like the dreiss cause i could go ADS to spam it, but it doesnt seem like thats possible with this guy.

Ive only had luck with slow controlled shots from the hip and even then its only been 1-2 stretches of goodness

(watsyurdeal) #31

After playing for about 3 hours, yea definetely the iron sights are meh, but then again…so are the rest of them in this game.

It baffles me why he’s a long range specialist yet his gun doesn’t have some kind of scope on it.

(titaniumCrouton) #32

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;61576”]After playing for about 3 hours, yea definetely the iron sights are meh, but then again…so are the rest of them in this game.

It baffles me why he’s a long range specialist yet his gun doesn’t have some kind of scope on it.[/quote]

Because it’s supposed to be used more aggressively than a normal sniper rifle, hence having iron sights which makes closer range engagements easier. If you had a scope, the extra zoom would make things harder. He’s more a mid TO long range and disruption specialist.

(Amerika) #33

It also gives people who loved the open sight rifles in the WW2 CoD games something to play with :slight_smile:

(watsyurdeal) #34

[quote=“titaniumCrouton;61581”][quote=“Watsyurdeal;61576”]After playing for about 3 hours, yea definetely the iron sights are meh, but then again…so are the rest of them in this game.

It baffles me why he’s a long range specialist yet his gun doesn’t have some kind of scope on it.[/quote]

Because it’s supposed to be used more aggressively than a normal sniper rifle, hence having iron sights which makes closer range engagements easier. If you had a scope, the extra zoom would make things harder. He’s more a mid TO long range and disruption specialist.[/quote]

I get that, but there’s no reason he couldn’t have an ACOG short range scope, or the blishok dot sight.

Just something to give a clearer shot at the target, because how you’d think these iron sights would function, isn’t quite the same.

There’s 2 lines then a smaller one in the middle.

You would think the top of that middle line is where the bullet goes, but not quite.

In fact all the sights are like that, which is why I hate using them, I rather just tap from the hip, even at sniper ranges.

(Hazard) #35

Dreiss seems to be a better option for Redeye from what I’ve seen. His augments are so average though. Terrible, if you like.

(moonlitAbility) #36

I never had a problem hitting where i was aiming with the dreiss while iron sighted, even under heavy fire. With the m14 i cant hit anything ironsighted but close range targets

(capriciousParsely) #37

I really dislike this weapon because they have made it so it has to be ADS’ed, in a game where the developers have over and over again said that hipfire is the preferred way to play. Yet, this weapon forces you to use ADS or else the spread is just insane. If it wasn’t for this I’d like it. It’s crazy powerful but hipfiring should be the way to play.

(titaniumCrouton) #38

You can hipfire it. It takes practice but after a couple hours of play, I’ve gotten to the point where I can do it very comfortably. :3 keep at it imo.

Yeeah, as mentioned before the sights on the weapon seems to be off. @MissMurder any chance you can get this looked into? It seems pretty universally accepted that there is something iffy going on here.

[quote=“Watsyurdeal;61593”][quote=“titaniumCrouton;61581”][quote=“Watsyurdeal;61576”]After playing for about 3 hours, yea definetely the iron sights are meh, but then again…so are the rest of them in this game.

It baffles me why he’s a long range specialist yet his gun doesn’t have some kind of scope on it.[/quote]

Because it’s supposed to be used more aggressively than a normal sniper rifle, hence having iron sights which makes closer range engagements easier. If you had a scope, the extra zoom would make things harder. He’s more a mid TO long range and disruption specialist.[/quote]

I get that, but there’s no reason he couldn’t have an ACOG short range scope, or the blishok dot sight.

Just something to give a clearer shot at the target, because how you’d think these iron sights would function, isn’t quite the same.

There’s 2 lines then a smaller one in the middle.

You would think the top of that middle line is where the bullet goes, but not quite.

In fact all the sights are like that, which is why I hate using them, I rather just tap from the hip, even at sniper ranges.
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Anything other than iron sights just feels like it would ruin the gun thematically and I personally hate the idea xP. If he was going to have a scope on it a sniper scope would be the only thing that makes sense. But since it doesn’t have a sniper scope, iron sights make sense since Snipers are trained switch from a scope to the iron sights, depending on the ranges there at…

Which is why, with WW2 era rifles, you saw a lot of the scopes on the right or left side of the gun. It’s so the weapon can be turned just a little and you can use it’s iron sights, which will always be more reliable than a scope :slight_smile:

(avidCow) #39

I agree that the iron sights just feel wrong somehow and like a gamble at times. Other than that I really enjoy using the SR.

(moonlitAbility) #40

yep. it feels very accurate from the hip with a slow controlled rate of fire. I cant hit jack shit while ironsighting. in practicing before matches, it seems like the bullet goes lower than the sight, and it has a ton of kick.