Grandeur M4-10


(titaniumCrouton) #1

So, new weapon introduced by Redeye. What you guys think of it so far? Personally, I think it’s awesome…takes getting used to though. Unlike other sniper rifles it can be hipfired, but it has to be done slowly due to the huge bloom or kept for close range spamming. Like other snipers though, iron sighting is recommended and the power/fire rate of this thing is just…beautiful imo.

What you guys think?


(Ottah) #2

its okay, its certainly not like the fast firing M1 Garand or M14BR that i’m used too but it certainly packs a punch. spending abit more time in ADS then i’d like due to the heavy bloom on rapid hipfire shots, but i understand they dont want to make it too strong in CQC where as in other games i’ve played the M14 was a monster regardless of range.


(moonlitAbility) #3

does anyone know the damage per bullet?


(titaniumCrouton) #4

40 per body 80 per head


(Edzer) #5

Don’t like the gun at all, think I’ll go with the dreiss or the PDP instead. Might be the getting use to thing, but it’s feeling really bad.


(moonlitAbility) #6

yeah, im meh on it at the moment… the few times i get a kill it can feel satisfying, but im having trouble hitting shit with it, both from the hip or iron sighted. it seems like theres a ton of bloom from the hip, and the sight seems like its lower or higher (not sure which) than other guns when iron sighted.

but, they went and messed with the dreiss now too which also feels off


(Yak) #7

It takes getting used to, but headshots are godly with it.


(Edzer) #8

Thing is dreiss headshots are also very rewarding, and with the buffs to bloom they’re even easier to get with the dreiss now. Really see no reason to take the Grandeur at all, it feels like using a handicapped PDP with a somewhat controllable hipfire.


(titaniumCrouton) #9

Thing is dreiss headshots are also very rewarding, and with the buffs to bloom they’re even easier to get with the dreiss now. Really see no reason to take the Grandeur at all, it feels like using a handicapped PDP with a somewhat controllable hipfire.[/quote]

I feel like they should reduce the recoil a bit on it. It seems to kick too high and off in quite the random directions, makes using it waaaaaay too much of a pain at times. I get it’s a strong gun but it shouldn’t be so uncontrollable.


(moonlitAbility) #10

Sooo… does anyone have any tips on aiming this thing? i feel like unless you get headshots the kill rate is bad at pretty much all ranges, and i cant seem to hit headshots at all


(Edzer) #11

There’s no tips for aiming. Just ADS and practise :confused:


(affableTricycle) #12

Not sure why everyone is acting like it has such ridiculous recoil. Sure, it’s high for Dirty Bomb, but most weapons in Dirty Bomb recoil about as much as a tube of toothpaste. Compared to most FPS games it’s pretty low.

Still not sure whether the Dreiss or the Grandeur is better. I’m leaning towards the Dreiss.


(Ghosthree3) #13

Sooo, Dreiss has the better loadout perks and does more damage?

EDIT: Nope wait I read it wrong, Dreiss is of course 50 damage headshots not 100, that’s PDP.

Either way, do the perks outweigh the choice of Grandeur over Dreiss?


(Yak) #14

Sooo, Dreiss has the better loadout perks and does more damage?

EDIT: Nope wait I read it wrong, Dreiss is of course 50 damage headshots not 100, that’s PDP.

Either way, do the perks outweigh the choice of Grandeur over Dreiss?[/quote]

Personally I think all his augments are meh, and as such only the main weapon matters to me.


(Ghosthree3) #15

Drilled and Quick Switch are pretty amazing…


(titaniumCrouton) #16

Eh, only one he is missing with the Grand is the drilled and honestly his reload times aren’t even long in the first place. Not to mention if you’re in a spam situation where you need the fast reload, you’ve got caught out and will more than likely die anyway.

So really his perks are all meh and it’s just the “least bad” of the terrible choices+what weapon you want.

[quote=“affableTricycle;61196”]Not sure why everyone is acting like it has such ridiculous recoil. Sure, it’s high for Dirty Bomb, but most weapons in Dirty Bomb recoil about as much as a tube of toothpaste. Compared to most FPS games it’s pretty low.

Still not sure whether the Dreiss or the Grandeur is better. I’m leaning towards the Dreiss.[/quote]

Because that high recoil is very high for DB which in turn means it’s extremely high like we’re talking about xP. It’s bad for a DB weapon to kick this much, especially considering it kicks harder then a damn FEL-IX on much more limited vision iron sight.

Gun is good but needs a recoil reduction imo. Spread is fine and is deserved as far as I am concerned.


(Amerika) #17

I spent quite a bit of time with Redeye tonight and used all three weapons quite a bit (and I have a lot of Dreiss and PDP experience already). The PDP on him is definitely strong even with it being nerfed in the last two patches. Most likely it was nerfed almost entirely because of how good it is through smoke. The Grandeur is OK. It’s weird. You have to fire it at a very strict cadence and it feels like it’s DPS is pretty low even if you fire it optimally and I am not a fan of the sights so far. It’s hard to be consistent with headshots.

I need more time but so far the early clear winner, if you’re playing a more traditional Vassili role, is the PDP.


(titaniumCrouton) #18

[quote=“Amerika;61317”]I spent quite a bit of time with Redeye tonight and used all three weapons quite a bit (and I have a lot of Dreiss and PDP experience already). The PDP on him is definitely strong even with it being nerfed in the last two patches. Most likely it was nerfed almost entirely because of how good it is through smoke. The Grandeur is OK. It’s weird. You have to fire it at a very strict cadence and it feels like it’s DPS is pretty low even if you fire it optimally and I am not a fan of the sights so far. It’s hard to be consistent with headshots.

I need more time but so far the early clear winner, if you’re playing a more traditional Vassili role, is the PDP.[/quote]

I can agree with that. I just think they need to fix or change something on the Grandeur. I’m not even sure what is wrong with it, I can just tell something IS wrong with it, you know? Like you I’ve spent most of the night playing him (and I will keep playing him because, as expected, he’s my new favorite class) and after using all the weapons, although they all have there place, the Grandeur just fits my style with him.

Which is a medium range engager. I generally play him as either a flanker or suppressive fire type role, picking off anyone who comes into sight lines while using the medium range to be as aggressive as possible. it’s strong and when I can get the gun to work for me, which is rare it feels, it is just…beautiful. I think my highlight would be I managed to get a flank on for people on chapel. Went around the side of the mid building while the EV was going up the long stretch.

Popped all four of them with quick headshots, threw smoke, pulled out a pistol, turned on the Solid eye (excuse me, inferred) and cleaned them all up. A rare moment of exceptional accuracy and it was beautiful and I even out-right killed the sparks (cause hooray for one shot headshots on her.)

In other words, the gun can work and it has power but like I said…there is just something off with it that I can’t place. It feels like something is broke on it and it’s causing me to miss shots I swear to the high heavens above I should be hitting because I am used to slow firing rifles. Vas with a MoA and Kira with a Dreiss are my main guns, so I’m used to firing slower, tracking targets and all that.

I just know something feels off on it and like I’ve mentioned previously, the recoil is terrible. If it had a scope, I could understand it but combined with how the iron sights are, it makes near impossible to stay on target which is a huge issue on a gun that demands you ADS, a lot. But I don’t think that is the main culprit although it isn’t helping…

Sorry for ranting I just can’t really put into words what is wrong with it. I just know something is wrong and I don’t think it’s intentional by design because I know people who played him during the beta and the weapon (Although it’s gone through some changes.) didn’t feel this bad. I just hope they fix it, because I really love the weapon and the play style it offers.

Thoughts?


(Parmenion) #19

The gun is amazing 23/3 yesterday with it, you destroy everyone with 2 hits if you manage to get 1 HS. You just need to take your time, if you get the HS you have plenty of time to put a second bullet where you want.

It’s strong at every range, it’s a beast for counter vaseline and you can OS Aura and Spark.
I’m glad you guys don’t like the gun, you won’t start the OP machine whine and he won’t get a nerf.


(titaniumCrouton) #20

[quote=“Parmenion;61362”]The gun is amazing 23/3 yesterday with it, you destroy everyone with 2 hits if you manage to get 1 HS. You just need to take your time, if you get the HS you have plenty of time to put a second bullet where you want.

It’s strong at every range, it’s a beast for counter vaseline and you can OS Aura and Spark.
I’m glad you guys don’t like the gun, you won’t start the OP machine whine and he won’t get a nerf.[/quote]

I thought aura had 90 hp, thus you only bring her down to 10 hp. unless she got winged or something. That said I love the gun and it’s the only one i’ll use on him, i just think it needs a small buff…like fixing the sights or something o-o.