Give soldier the sten?


(Ranstaton) #1

I was thinking about how lvl 2 soldiers special ability speeds up the cooling of machine guns. I was also thinking about how the sten is an awesome weapon, but the heat up is kind of annoying.

I think that giving the soldier a sten that lets you fire off an entire clip before it overheats would be interesting. You’d probably attract some of the better players to soldier because of the ability to use this weapon more effectively…

Just a thought. It would certainly make Covert Ops a bit more difficult to spot, but you could take the silencer off of the soldiers version…

Or maybe add a completely different weapon, that has the accuracy of the sten, but not overheat and it is only useable by soldiers… I’m thinking the BAR or the STG 44. Both can be considered heavy weapons (beause they are larger than sub-machine guns) and maybe you could make fireing them use the energy bar so they can use them like an SMG but with some penalties.

Anyway, post your thoughts…


(McAfee) #2

A Sten is a modified mp40 with a silencer.
sten - silencer = mp40

maybe a weapons expert may come along and clear this out.


(Awol) #3

Its my understanding that the sten is silent due to design of teh barrel and outter shell. Its not something you can remove, its part of the actually gun. Could be wrong too wouldn’t be the first time :slight_smile:


(Cyber-Knight) #4

Well, if you use ET analogy, yes, it’s true.

Sten - Silencer = SMG

But IRL, the Sten is a British weapon.

heh, okay idea i guess, but maybe they should put a modified version of the Venom back in instead! :smiley:


(GrumpyDog) #5

Hey, the BAR (even the STG 44) would be cool addition for the soldier class. The BAR would do good damage(2x the Thompson M1A1) and be balanced by a smaller (20s) clip. It would be like a light machine gun so you would have to lie down to make it more accurate,.

I want the M1 carbine as an option for the medic class. A light, fast 20 shot autofire carbine.

On though I had that would be cool for the Spy would be a garrote, that would be really hard to use, but allow the spy to kill without losing they’re disguise. You could make it charge using the energy bar. Put it a a rate of 1 attempt every 30 sec or so.

:beer:


(Lihyo) #6

I’ve always thought that soldiers should get more max ammo than medics/engineers/field/covert… at highest level the max ammo caps at 120 for most guns… I think soldiers wielding mp40/thompson should be able to carry more ammo than other classes… because they’re more specialized in combat… and perhaps they should start out with 30/90 ammo instead of 30/60… or even 30/120 so soldiers can get into the thick of action without asking for ammo right after spawning


(GrumpyDog) #7

I agree. the straight SMG only soldier shoud start out with n extra clip. Their max should be 180 (2 extra clips than normal) at the highest level. That alone would make them really useful for quick assaults and long firefights.

:beer:


(Gump) #8

That would be cool! I always thought the smg soldier should be equipped with something a little better than the regular smg. A BAR would be perfect, basicly the same as the smg with a little better damage giving the good ole smg soldier a bit of an advantage to offset his complete uselessness.


(FisteR) #9

SMG Soldier = useless.

Get a heavy weapon or switch classes and help your team.


(Ranstaton) #10

Fister, that’s why I was suggesting they make the SMG somewhat special or something in order to give the SMG soldier a purpose.


(FisteR) #11

I hear ya, Ran. But I don’t think having a non-overheating Sten makes it special enough. So what if it’s silent and cool? SMG soldier is still useless as far as I’m concerned. It should not even be an option. Soldiers should be heavy weapons only.


(The W00dsm4n) #12

soldiers should get an SMG thats unavailable to other classes, or make something special about the SMGs they can get(like being able to use 2 at once if you have SMG as your main weapon on lvl 4 heavy weapons…dunno just an idea)


(Ranstaton) #13

I think the STG-44 would fit in nicely as the heavies default choice. It is basically an assault rifle, so it could be used similarly to the SMGs, but maybe slow the user down a slight amount and have your shots spread out faster. It would give the basic soldier an advantage over every other class which seems to kick its ass in basic soldiering…


(Mystiqq) #14

Medics should have lower max ammo as default. they arent soldiers still they have same amount of max ammo.
EDIT:
to not get this too off topic, the soldier is ok ATM. only weapons that seem to be a bit weak (or atleast i havent got the hang of it, even thou i have some history playing RTCW) is the flame thrower and the SMG. Playing soldier and SMG doesnt seem to give you much advantage on anything, only disadvantage (correct word?).
They should give more max ammo like you suggested to soldier, and less for medic (for obvious reasons)

cheers
mystiqq