Fuel Dump - running through the AXIS spawn - legitimate?

(amazinglarry) #1

I had a similar problem today and I figure instead of making a whole new post, might as well continue one =)

I was on some ETPro server today (where everyone thinks they’re the best, ok not everyone but a lot more whiners and l33tz0r people than in shrub)… ok anyway I was on allies and we had moved the tank to the final resting position and we were spawning through the CP… as I was running down the hill toward the main gate I was consistantly being panzered and sniped from the axis “spawn” window. So I thought ok… enough of that and another teammate and I went up the stairs and went into the building where they have those 2 windows that overlook the CP and hill etc. We kill the panzer and 2 snipers and then they start crying “Spawn campers!”.

Spawn Campers? Hrm… ok well keep in mind I’m a big fan of Spawn Camping but I had to laugh here… because they do NOT spawn up top. But beyond that as my argument, I was saying it would be unfair to call that a spawn because they’re exploiting the “server rules” by hanging out in there and killing all the allies that they can see while they have “spawn camping immunity” and I expressed how unfair I felt that was.

They said it was ok to shoot inside there just so long as I didn’t physically go INTO it. Ok, I thought I can play that game. So I spawn again and make my way over there and stand just outside the doorway and kill a couple in there before dying myself… and then I was kicked.

Of course I come back and ask why and nobody answers me they just tell me to “stfu”. Bah… anyway so what do you guys think? We sort of decided that running through the spawn in it’s entirety (and for the most part not shooting) is ok… but do any of you consider that upper floor a spawn? And if so, spawn camping?

(Ragnar_40k) #2

Yeah, esp. 1337 rambo medics are the first that cry “rifle noob (resp. panzer pussy) kick him!”

Remember: Server rules never apply to admins and their 1337 friends. When you ask them about rules and you follow the rules (extending the rules to the limit) - they will kick you nevertheless when you kill them to often.
And one additional tip: don’t color the name, you will only get kicked faster.

(Ifurita) #3

BTW, Spacewolves suck. That will be all :wink:

(_NeT_WalBanger) #4

BTW, Spacewolves suck. That will be all :wink:

Yep Chaos all the way :smiley:

Ya i hate people who cry about spawn killing… With the Exception of Axis on Railgun you shouldnt be getting spawn killed more than 1/2 times… Go the other way… And as for on Railgun, its your own fault for being shit and getting pinned back… Grin and bare it and force you way back out…

Look on the bright side least you dont have to go far before your back in the action :wink:

I didnt think there was this many people who agreed with my way thinking, this is a happy day :)… Next you will be telling its ok to use all the weapons in the game. lol think its time for my to air my Grip, a little bit different to this but…

I was on a server with good players that is 99% time full and the map was radar.
at the back i spawn in the side hut and put an MG down and wasted anyone who came in the main gates…
After a short time a get knifed in the back… I was gutted but hey things happen…Then i noticed it was a team mate Rv[Sock]…
Im like WTF???
I asked why, and no answer
So i spawned again and set up and started wasting them again, and again a few secs later, im knifed in the back again by the same guy so this time when he was in my line sight i mowed him down and this time he answered me… “Because its LAME”… lol wtf???
The only thing i think is because i was stealing HIS kills, but is the most stupid thing i ever heared…

(SwordOfDamocles) #5

Basically and put shortly: Check whether spawnkilling is allowed in the server MOTD. If it does not specify and no online admin says otherwise then anything is allowed until an admin says otherwise. However, just remember that ppl are there to have a good time as are you. Courtesy is the name of the game imo. Having said that, if someone calls me all the names under the sun for spawn camping where there is no such specification, then it doesn’t make me want to stop.

(Brevik) #6

Courtesy - an oft forgotten concept in ET…

(next_ghost) #7

Running thru enemy spawn is ok if u just run thru it somewhere else. U’re taking risk of meeting invulnerable enemy and anyone who call you spawn-killer has a serious brain damage :cool:

(senator) #8

The funniest players are the ones who complain about spawncamping/-killing if the other team simply tries to reclaim the flag to resecure a forward spawn (Caen for example) :smiley:

(KATTman) #9

spawnkillin never bothered me… though i have ‘accidently’ done it lol BUT my view on it is…

if you dont like it, dont do it cuz you’ll get it back with interest :wink:

had axis spawnkillin on the beach and when the ramp was built me and my flame spawned them back… SEE how fast they complained lol

(PH@TIE) #10

Getting camped in at the Axis spawn on Railgun is down to un-balanced teams, not being “shit”.

The problem with it is that ppl are too happy to stick with the stronger side and rack up ridiculous k/d ratio’s. When they could swap sides and prove their skill by fighting the harder battle. When XP shuffle voye is called, you can usually guarantee Allies team = 10 players, No votes will = 10.

Most guy’s that have been playing for a while will take up the challenge, but their are a hell of allot ghey ppl that are just after “awards”. Just check the post match chat messages and you’ll find them, "“Woohoo Highest Fragger and highest accuracy”. But a failed objective.

It’s a pity that “automatic” team balancing is not available on map changes, to make campaigns more interesting.

It down to moral standards I’m afraid.

As for running thro a spawn… no problem. If you are unfortunate enuff to run thro as they re-spawn, and start shootin at ya, what do you do… smile politly and /kill.
Nah you do what ya need to do, and shoot back.

(amazinglarry) #11

Good call Ph@tie for the most part…

I’ll switch teams if it’s EARLY in the map and we are dominating… but if we worked the entire map to push axis OR allies back I’m not going to switch teams with less then 5 minutes left… not becuase I want highest fragger… or highest accuracy, etc… but because I already invested the 25 minutes of my life to benefiting the team I’m playing for. If I have to shuffle with 5 minutes left, what was the point in me even playing for those 25 minutes? Why even play the game? To make friends? Certainly that doesn’t happen every game. There’s a certain amount of pride and accomplishment involved in it. Though I encourage automatic team balancing… you’re right, it’s a shame it isn’t available per map. Anyway… I’m drunk now and kinda off topic probably, and appologize for that. EDIT: re-read this and I don’t appologize… but I’m gonna instead take another shot. Appologies to those who dislike alcohol references.

(Sick Boy) #12

The main problem causing spawncamping on noob servers is still the cowardness of the attackers, especially on fueldump and railgun you see this a lot. Some people really don’t want to die and do everything to avoid it, picking the safest place to camp (yes camp as attacker), usually being an MG-nest or sniping spot near the own spawn. Then they get overrun and the spawncamping can begin. They have no chance of braking the camp because they don’t realise you have to PUSH THROUGH and gain terrain. Instead, they try to “defend the spawn” and get a couple of useless kills.

I’m allergic to this kind of play, I immediately leave the server if I encounter a team of cowards. Getting spawncamped I don’t mind, as long as my team tries to change the situation.

People complaining about spawncamping are usually the same people that do nothing about it.

(PH@TIE) #13

Cpmpletely agree with the last 2 post… (drunk or otherwise)…

Pushing a team back into the Axis spawn on railgun over a period of time = np
With 5mins left I would let it run then force a shuffle during the map change.

(KATTman) #14

what about the north africa level? you have to run past the spawn on the way to the north gun, ok u can go on the outside but outside is more scarey L times u have to lay down cover to get past and up the stairs…

the server im usually on… maybe 2days ago 15mins left was on allies and not got the gold im like errrr… :S ok… 7 mins later still no gold… men were 2 chicken to rush in… so ya die? big deal its a game! so i get on get a panza (sorry!L) go in and GET the 1st gold… after that STILL no one tried :confused: arg!

(Kerunch) #15

:banana: Aint been here for a while But I enjoy the spawn camping debate.My 2 cents worth is If you hide in the enemy spawn and as they spawn and start to move thats spawn camping.As to rail gun camping my method is try and try again as eventualy you will get through.Though I’d advise any one not to be on vent whilst i’m trying this as I do tend to scream a lot and get excited.

(Ragnar_40k) #16

Yesterday I had a player on my team, he was a cov ops. I was Allied engi lvl 3. So I ask him to go medic for some support. His answer: “No, Cov Ops isn’t full yet”.

Or the other day: a Allied FO on battery (after the flag was taken) he only stands at the bunker door, giving out ammo (and blocking the door). I asked him to move on, his reply: “I want to have enemy recognition, I only need XXX points, then I will stop”.

(amazinglarry) #17

Yeah Ragnar… people who do that are a total waste of bandwidth. I just wish more people who played the game, played for the team-based factor and not on the reward system.

(Rain) #18

I’d have TK’d him. :clap:

“wtf?!”
“I want the lowest score, I only need to lose XXX more points!”

(Sauron|EFG) #19

Silly anologies, part one.

Breaking a spawn camp is like giving birth, you really need to push to make it happen.
Also, having a machine that goes bing! really helps.

:rolleyes:

(Ragnar_40k) #20

I did it twice, but he only complained and a kick vote didn’t pass.