Friendly Fire !?!

(abnorm) #1

I dont understand how its possible to make meaningful results with ECHO when friendly fire is off.
Would be friendly fire on, the way how people play will change a lot.
FF on would reduce a lot of spam, because you have to take care on your teammates if you do an artystrike for example. Or you cant just shoot through your teammates to kill opponents and so on.

It would be very nice if we could get an public server with FF on, that you can evaluate the different.
I know matchservers has FF on setting.

Are SDs plans to make FF off as standart setting on release? :rolleyes:

(Finko) #2

Yeah, without FF games on public servers very spammy, especialy 8v8. Maybe it can be disabled on severs for beginers, but must be on other servers.

(Glottis-3D) #3

FF on, you got my vote!

(HoPp3l) #4

Push!!! Push!!!

[quote=abnorm;510288]i dont understand how its possible to make meaningful results with echo when friendly fire is off.
Would be friendly fire on, the way how people play will change a lot.
Ff on would reduce a lot of spam, because you have to take care on your teammates if you do an artystrike for example. Or you cant just shoot through your teammates to kill opponents and so on.

It would be very nice if we could get an public server with ff on, that you can evaluate the different.
I know matchservers has ff on setting.

Are sds plans to make ff off as standart setting on release? :rolleyes:[/quote]

(Snakizator) #5

Khm… where is FF??? We need it! Finko can’t kill team mates

(Mustang) #6

Been waiting for this forever.

(potty200) #7

Just wish that it would prevent mines in awful spots as they are near on impossible to spot.

(montheponies) #8

my guess is that FF will be off by default, more’s the pity.

As you say the behaviour of players and by extension teams changes dramatically if you can’t just chuck strikes and mash Mouse1 like a mofo.

FF off also makes 1 v 2 more difficult - used to love using the opponent as a shield/bullet soaker.

(Glottis-3D) #9

[QUOTE=montheponies;510304]
FF off also makes 1 v 2 more difficult - used to love using the opponent as a shield/bullet soaker.[/QUOTE]
i miss this so much.

(spookify) #10

Another reason to make medic abilities stronger! Revives crisper and a better shield…

Stop the “if you get hit you do not get anymore HP”

Make it if you get hit you still get 25% from that pack or something!!!

A person with a medic should beat someone with out…

Instead right now we have Stocker just blasting through both of them…

(abnorm) #11

hope for dev post

(njezic) #12

[QUOTE=abnorm;510288]I dont understand how its possible to make meaningful results with ECHO when friendly fire is off.
Would be friendly fire on, the way how people play will change a lot.
FF on would reduce a lot of spam, because you have to take care on your teammates if you do an artystrike for example. Or you cant just shoot through your teammates to kill opponents and so on.

It would be very nice if we could get an public server with FF on, that you can evaluate the different.
I know matchservers has FF on setting.

Are SDs plans to make FF off as standart setting on release? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

I come from the Brink, we are always on the servers enabled FF which is the real situation of the real world. I’m playing here as it is FF on because it has not been stated anywhere when you come to the server or the match. It should always be on, except maybe for a couple of servers for beginners.

(Seanza) #13

Playing in drafts and cups was the only way people got to play with FF on back in the day. It’s always been off for some reason.

#FreeFF

(Kl3ppy) #14

As Sean said, it was always disabled and I have no hope that one day SD enables FF by default.

(Anti) #15

We’re not currently planning to have FF on by default, as generally it’s pretty disruptive to pub play. That might change once we have proper rules in place to punish repeated and deliberate FF, but those aren’t in game at present.

It is a server flag though so people will be free to turn it on and it’s likely it’ll be on at a later stage in ranked play.

(Seanza) #16

[QUOTE=Anti;510614]We’re not currently planning to have FF on by default, as generally it’s pretty disruptive to pub play. That might change once we have proper rules in place to punish repeated and deliberate FF, but those aren’t in game at present.

It is a server flag though so people will be free to turn it on and it’s likely it’ll be on at a later stage in ranked play.[/QUOTE]

Can we get a test period of FF being on?

(Kl3ppy) #17

[QUOTE=Anti;510614]We’re not currently planning to have FF on by default, as generally it’s pretty disruptive to pub play. That might change once we have proper rules in place to punish repeated and deliberate FF, but those aren’t in game at present.

It is a server flag though so people will be free to turn it on and it’s likely it’ll be on at a later stage in ranked play.[/QUOTE]

So, you are designing and building all the stuff with FF off, but might enable it later on. Wont FF make an huge difference in play style? Currently you are balancing everything with FF off, so all the spraying and spam isnt punished, everybody just keeps shooting because teammates arent getting hurt. But once it’s turned on, your balanced might not work.
And a simple vote kick mechanism would work :wink:

(Violator) #18

Having FF on for pub play doesn’t make any sense when there’s barely any pub players left in the beta :(. Would also prefer FF enabled btw - less spam ftw :).

(Mustang) #19

How does it not make sense to have it on for the few players left, when it’s the few players left asking for it to be on, if anything you should be arguing the opposite.

(Seanza) #20

I think that’s what Violator is saying. That it doesn’t make sense to not have it enabled when it’s what the small amount of players actually playing the game are asking for.