Frag movies as official promotion

(Apoc) #1

Iv had this idea for ages and i really think it would work. People love frag movies/montages, i mean just look at the view count on some of COD’s montages, they far outnumber all the trailers combined. So instead of just random gameplay vids showing an average player doing something while being narrated, why not have a few pro players who are good at montages, come in and play the game, collect some clips and make some montages, im certain it would attract alot of attention. It would show people whats possible and give them somewhere to aim for.

It would be very cheap to do, yet incredibly effective.

I mean you could have 3 pro players playing a bodytype each and have them compete to make the best movie thus adding fun and advertising each body type equally.

Just throwing it out there…iv been thinking about it for ages, see what you guys thought…

Also to get in with all the flamers;

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[li]I know its a team game and kills shouldnt be the complete focus, however watching spectacular kills generate hype, wheras watching someone throw ammo doesnt. Also the trailer and every interview and review they have done so far has emphasised teamwork quite enough already.
[/li][li]I know some people dont like montages. But alot of people do. And its not like it would be instead of the other videos or info, its just additional.
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(Humate) #2

The idea is nice, however its likely to intimidate new players and its incongruent with the overall xp system they have in place. It will only confuse potential buyers, given how hard bethesda is trying to paint Brink as the Ying to Cod’s Yang.

(Apoc) #3

Perhaps, i thought it would show more that brink has something for everyone. Also bethesda shouldnt portray it as the complete anti cod, cod has a huge fanbase that would be very usefull to tap into. I mean its not changing what the game is, its just showing whats possible.

(ShoryukenII) #4

They could do a teamwork montage. Stuff like revive grenades, the Operatives trap that forces people to take lots of damage of walk slow (lets his team finish them), the Operative taking control of a gatling turret, the engineer planting mines under corpses (then have half the enemy team step on it), etc. I think it would be best to do videos for each class instead of spending time on showing us medics reviving and engineers making bots. A frag montage would only bring in people expecting something else. When they realize that it isn’t what they expected they would tell their CoD friends that Brink is crap. The ones that would stay would play but they would play for kills like in the frag montage. So I think class specific videos and maybe some funny videos would be good.

(Humate) #5

Perhaps, i thought it would show more that brink has something for everyone. Also bethesda shouldnt portray it as the complete anti cod, cod has a huge fanbase that would be very usefull to tap into. I mean its not changing what the game is, its just showing whats possible.

And its attracting that crowd with the persistent unlock system and all of its 50 billion weapon choices.
Look, it would certainly be interesting for you or myself and many others on this forum. I would love to see that sort of promotion to satisfy my own curiosity. But I know, that realistically it would intimidate the players that they are trying to attract. Remember they arent just trying to attract players to their game, but they also want them to play online as well. A bunch of tutorial videos on the other hand? :wink:

(BAD PEGASUS) #6

I think it’d be great. What really got me pumped for BF: BC2 was that “Battlefield Moments” miniseries of like 1-minute clips of some guy in-game doing something really badass, such as killing four people with a pistol then blowing up an objective building with C4. I don’t think it would intimidate players. It’d be more of a “this is what you’re capable of” video, you know? When people see gameplay, they don’t think “Man, I’d hate to be against this guy.” They think “Man, I WANT to be this guy!”

(Mustkunstn1k) #7

I realise you talked about this, but this would clearly go against everything Brink is trying to be. It would be ads against their own ads. The game isn’t supposed to be about kills.

And from a different perspective… it might pull over CoD players who are only going to play for themselves…

(Apoc) #8

[quote=Mustkunstn1k;272477]I realise you talked about this, but this would clearly go against everything Brink is trying to be. It would be ads against their own ads. The game isn’t supposed to be about kills.

And from a different perspective… it might pull over CoD players who are only going to play for themselves…[/quote]

Yes but its like a nice trap. We get all the selfish players who want to play for themselves and brink shows them the light and its mechanics converts them to teamplay :slight_smile:

You cant expect brink to succeed if it only gets bought by teamplayers, there arent enough about, you have to attract them with whatever you can, then encourage them to play differantly with rewards

(Thundermuffin) #9

Why not just take some clips from a competitive match with voice coms and all? You’d get great killstreaks, great teamwork, and people would hear real players actually communicating and showing what goes on. I know I really liked that Bad Company 2 commercial where it shows a group of 4ish people trying to overtake an MCOM station and at the very end of the thing it zooms out and you see their nametags and the little icon for VoIP appears over them as they keep spotting enemies and calling out strats.

(DarkangelUK) #10

This is all based on the assumption of demo recording and some, if any camming capability… none of which has even been hinted at yet.

(Humate) #11

Q: please do implement the option to record demos

I dunno sounds like a hint of demo recording.

(Thundermuffin) #12

You could always use FRAPs, X-Fire has video recording and I read that VALVe is going to possibly add it to Steam so there’s a lot of other ways, but why wouldn’t they put it in? They did it with ET:QW and every other idTech game has it, so if they don’t put it in they’ve essentially killed a neat, somewhat niche community that creates some interesting stuff that could further sales and stuff for them.

(Apoc) #13

Since i was suggesting “official” frag movies, ie ones supported by splash damage, im sure splash damage could share whatever method they use to make their current gameplay trailers to capture the gameplay?

(DarkangelUK) #14

It was actually SD that helped me create the ETQW capture tutorial. As you can see, it was a long winded afair that lacked results.

Well from conversations on the IRC channel, I know SD have a capture unit setup… but that consists of a capture card and capturing to PC etc. ETQW had scripted cams, but required the purchase of very expensive software to create scripted cameras… luckily hannes introduced camtrace to ETQW. Since we don’t know the ticrate as of yet, we don’t know if we’re limited to 30fps capture or 60fps. Fraps will be of use obviously, but my stance on fraps is a last resort and only if necessary… i’d rather use superior in game options if they are available.

(crazyfoolish) #15

[QUOTE=Apoc;272500]Yes but its like a nice trap. We get all the selfish players who want to play for themselves and brink shows them the light and its mechanics converts them to teamplay :slight_smile:

You cant expect brink to succeed if it only gets bought by teamplayers, there arent enough about, you have to attract them with whatever you can, then encourage them to play differantly with rewards[/QUOTE]

I agree completely. SDs focus should definitely be to draw in the cod crowd as opposed to appealing only to teamplayers. There are already pleny of teamplay videos so i doubt the teamplayers will be scared off anyway.

(Apoc) #16

Yea same, also Black ops theater mode has really put pressure on other devs to have some sort of capture built in, especially in the console market.

(EyeZer0) #17

While I hate most of the youtube commentators/Machinema directors because of their annoying personalities and generally selfish gameplay, there is one thing they are very good at, attracting people to buy games. It sucks but Splash Damage wants this game to be successful and for that to happen they have to go toe to toe with the biggest fish of them all right now in the FPS market which is COD.

What I would not definitely be opposed to see is if Splash Damage helped out some of the better youtube video makers out there. One very good example is XboxAhoy and his weapon guides he has been making for COD. http://www.youtube.com/XboxAhoy . I would definitely love to see him make a lot of videos for Brink but his bread and butter right now is Black Ops videos so if Splash Damage could help sway him in this matter since he’s a fellow Brit wink wink nudge nudge.

Finally most of the youtube commentators use a HD PVR and not Theater Mode so a capture tool isn’t totally necessary for them to work with Brink.

(tokamak) #18

Frag movies mainly appeal to the crowd that’s already playing, they can relate to the situations and the difficulty level of the kills in question. People unfamiliar with the game wouldn’t know whether or not the footage is impressive.

(Seyu) #19

I’d rather see a full fledged match with commentary rather than a kill montage.

(Jess Alon) #20

That’s the selling point with Crysis 2 even though when you first jump into a multiplayer match some invisible bastard WILL stab you in the back.