Fix your garbage 'ranked'

[neverplayseriou]

11 fucking queue pops and 16 mins to get a game which is poorly balanced.

Then once again a fucking Stockholm shit server, how about you fuck off with your London and Stockholm servers in ranked if hits don’t even register on those servers. What’s even the point in playing if I have 50% more hit sounds than actual hits and it feels like my sens doubles…

Stop calling something ranked if it’s garbage balance, garbage servers, retarded server choices (yea lets connect 10 people to a server even though only 1 of those people has a connection that shows he actually lives in that damn region), no ping/region restrictions, no merc limits and beyond poor weapons balancing.

Do you even play your own damn game or does Echo do that for you devs?

TL;DR
Stop connecting me to fucking servers that aren’t Amsterdam or Frankfurt and balance your damn game before making a ranked mode.
You can’t expect people to keep on playing a mode in this state. Everytime I play a ranked match I see less of a point to continue playing DB.

[anon41468043]

I got to cobalt over the weekend entirely as a solo player so this season must not be all that disastrous and broken. The balance has been reasonable for me. But to be fair, the ping issue should be their #1 priority even if it results in even longer queue times. A single player with over 300 ping can make the entire lobby feel like it’s rubberbanding all over the place. I’d rather be stuck with a lower ranked teammate than someone with terrible connection.

[Artyrim]

@neverplayseriou said:
11 @$!# queue pops and 16 mins to get a game which is poorly balanced.

Then once again a @$!# Stockholm @$!# server, how about you @$!# off with your London and Stockholm servers in ranked if hits don’t even register on those servers. What’s even the point in playing if I have 50% more hit sounds than actual hits and it feels like my sens doubles…

I think that is bugged since 2 days ago,just today I tried to play a match and queued over 10 time then i gave up. Yday had the same problem,it started 2 days ago. I wanted to report this as well.
Is bugged or there is a group of trolls playing EU servers

About stockholm +++++++++++++++++++
Is like playing in moscow servers

[GatoCommodore]

hongkong and singapore server is not in hongkong or singapore because both is weirdly 50 ping and i get yellow connetion icon even tho my connection is not a problem

as a result, people from all around the East Asia region are clumping and we have a heavily diverse ping range from 20-300+ in every match

Diversity yes!

this only happens in DB
(R6 siege i only get 5-10 ping SEA server)

[anon41468043]

@Wintergreen said:
I got to cobalt over the weekend entirely as a solo player so this season must not be all that disastrous and broken. The balance has been reasonable for me.

@Sithas, why dids you disagree with me? You think I is a liar? Here, I provide you with the proof. Much of proof. You hurt me feelings.

See? Good. No? Okay, providing much of more proof. See, look, no parties. All of some the recent matches. No OP hackerman carrying meself. I done did play solo.

!

Now good? No? Okay, I’ll be back when I get Cobalt Officer or Master on my main account too. #balancesucks. #DBsucks. #stupidbrokenrankedgameisworthless.

Spoiler and pro-tip: I’m not even that great. You know what I do when occasionally some other cobalts or elites have better shooty pew-pew skills than me? I play the objective hard as Hell or heal my teammates if they have better pew-pew skills and kill the enemy’s top dog better than me. I play the objective like a mfer. It’ll take you places.

[Sithas]

@Wintergreen

My god this is the first time i ever saw somebody get this uppity on this forum about a disagree,
I didnt disagree about your statement reaching cobalt, i disagreed about you saying ranked is not broken. There are way too many leavers, without any real punishment. The premade vs solo makes ranked even a bigger joke, combine that with the low playerbase, and it results in ranked being everything except reasonable balanced.
You reached cobalt? congratz but it doesnt make ranked any better
You can try to hide it by trying to be funny acting like a ten year old and giving ´pro tips´, but the only thing i see is that you got offended because somebody didnt believe in your elite skills.

[bgyoshi]

Alternative solution:

Don’t play Ranked

Protip: Server Browser is the same exact game

Pro protip: 5v5 sucks anyway

[teflonlove]

Pro tip: play solo queue ranked with the mercs you have the least experience with and use it for practice. The result is random anyway and you are going to win about 50% of your games one way or the other.

[anon41468043]

@Sithas said:
@Wintergreen

My god this is the first time i ever saw somebody get this uppity on this forum about a disagree,
I didnt disagree about your statement reaching cobalt, i disagreed about you saying ranked is not broken. There are way too many leavers, without any real punishment. The premade vs solo makes ranked even a bigger joke, combine that with the low playerbase, and it results in ranked being everything except reasonable balanced.
You reached cobalt? congratz but it doesnt make ranked any better
You can try to hide it by trying to be funny acting like a ten year old and giving ´pro tips´, but the only thing i see is that you got offended because somebody didnt believe in your elite skills.

Lol, dude, relax. I’m not ‘offended’ in the sense you imply. I’m offended - or rather at a complete loss for words - at this community’s sentiment towards every aspect of ranked or this game in general. I cannot wrap my head around how people think it’s so broken beyond belief. That’s why I was mocking and exaggerating about the whole topic broadly. I was highlighting that the state of ranked is nowhere near as bad as people claim in my initial post by showing that someone like me, who is a 7/10 at best in terms of being ‘good’ at this game, can attain cobalt ranks. As for the rest of your post, I don’t disagree with that at all. About two weeks ago I had countless posts/debates about how leavers need to be punished more and the other biggest problems with ranked - ping differences included. The supposed algorithms and balance problems people have routinely complained about are nowhere near as prevalent as they’ve been in previous seasons. That’s my entire point.

Quitters in Ranked Punishment or No Punishment?

Ranked points : too hard to earn ? - Page 2

^ 2 threads where we both talked about it.

[emjot]

Since new ranked started, if I solo, I pray for one thing: don’t put parties into my team. In 75% cases, if I have a 3xparty, then I have to play against even better skilled opponents and my team is full of bots/zombies. For me, that’s the issue.

In some thread I posted screenshots of lost games due to having party in my team, and won gmes due to nab parties on the other side.

If I q with two friends of mine, balance seems okish, yet 2 other guys in my team are in some cases - retarded.

[ThunderZsolt]

@bgyoshi said:
Alternative solution:

Don’t play Ranked

Protip: Server Browser is the same exact game

Pro protip: 5v5 sucks anyway

Now I’m in trouble.
If I agree with the first 2 statements, but disagree with the 3rd, and only can push one button, which should that be?

On the topic: my main problem with ranked is the swarm of technical errors, like games starting 5v4, players disconnecting without being able to reconnect, putting players with 24ms and 300ms ping in the same team…

Fixing these would make ranked MUCH more enjoyable regardless of “team balance”

Also, I’m all for punishing leavers, I would give 24h ban for the first leaving/AFK/kick and -50 ranked points + 24h ban for every consecutive leaving, if the player has 0 ranked points then charge the penalties to the end of season rewards, if the player reaches 0 with the end season reward, then ban for the rest of the season.

But not until innocent players get penalized due to technical reasons, so we are again at my first point, fix the **** servers.

[Nail]

your concept of “punishment” would kill ranked instantly
getting banned for a disconnect is idiotic

[ThunderZsolt]

@Nail said:
your concept of “punishment” would kill ranked instantly
getting banned for a disconnect is idiotic

dude, did you even read my post?

quote from myself:
But not until innocent players get penalized due to technical reasons, so we are again at my first point, fix the **** servers.

[Nail]

dude, do you even speak English, ?
your quote
“But not until innocent players get penalized due to technical reasons”

[ThunderZsolt]

Yeah, this is what I wrote.

Don’t ban for disconnecting, ban those who intentionally leave the game or AFK.
Giving them a temp ban would help with the ranked population, not killing it.

[B_Montiel]

Servers are reacting quite weirdly in West Europe since they’ve added different location. In France I’ve got close to no issues with London, Amsterdam and Frankfurt servers, but Stockholm is definitely garbage from here. Yes, its further but I’m not supposed to get a 60ms ping from them while I’m below 20 on the other ones. And everyone seem to have issues with them as I often see people way in the 100ies on them. And once somebody starts reaching those numbers, it starts to get worse for everyone else flooding the server with rubberbands and massive warps.

About the balance, the current issue is player numbers and they have close to no leverage about it. Improving the game might pay at some point but honestly don’t expect good balance with 100 people searching for ranked in the whole western Europe at the same time. Most of the games will be crap.

I’m interested about the next update, but as long as fragger/arty + aura stacks are the bread and butter of defense, there’s no hope in improving the experience.

Smooth answered there won’t be any merc limit put in place on public games, ranked included, which is sad in my view. But I’d totally like to see a shared CD penalty every time you stack merc in the team, at least on ranked. I.E. Cooldown is multiplied by 1.5 everytime you stack the same merc. That’d promote variety the hard way.

[Merrynator]

I’d like to pitch in.

I find 26 min solo que time on a saturday afternoon (EU que) quite unacceptable. Even after that, the balance was terrible, we stomped the crap out of enemy team on their attack and 2 of them left after 4 minutes. For more casual players, that’s way too much waiting and they won’t que for too many times.

Long que times and bad balance = There’s something wrong with the ranked matchmaking. I’d accept long que times for balanced matches, but when you have both long que times and bad games, it doesen’t serve anybody.

Apparently the balance (read: rank determination for players) has proven to be too difficult to get right (which I understand is by no means a trivial matter programmatically) and the matches are 70-80% stomp in one direction or the other, might as well loosen up the match making and give quicker match pops.

[B_Montiel]

It does not serve anybody because it basically can’t serve anybody. If players are lacking there’s no way it can provide an acceptable service close enough for everyone’s skill. Something algorithm can’t solve is the willingness of players to go ranked at the same time.

To be quite fair with the proper matchmaking system, you find fair games if there are enough players, especially with the new season. Look for a game in the late Sunday afternoon, you’ll have pretty good games, even quicker than said in the game.

[teflonlove]

@Merrynator said:
Long que times and bad balance = There’s something wrong with the ranked matchmaking

Long queue time means that the skill spread maxed out, so the resulting game lumps every skill level together, which guarantees a pointless match with a random result.

[Nail]

@ThunderZsolt said:
Yeah, this is what I wrote.

Don’t ban for disconnecting, ban those who intentionally leave the game or AFK.
Giving them a temp ban would help with the ranked population, not killing it.

actually that’s the opposite of what you wrote, hence my query as to your language capabilities. And how will the game know if you’ve been disconnected because of server glitch or hissy fits, banning people doesn’t make them want to play, just the opposite