Fix your garbage 'ranked'


(Merrynator) #21

@teflonlove said:

@Merrynator said:
Long que times and bad balance = There’s something wrong with the ranked matchmaking

Long queue time means that the skill spread maxed out, so the resulting game lumps every skill level together, which guarantees a pointless match with a random result.

Is it known, that it’s indeed every skill level? Afaik it’s phrazed “Maximum allowed skill range”. I think like 99% of my queues (got more than 100 games played this season) have been with that bar maxed out anyway.


(Ptiloui) #22

Another question after the last awful experience i had in ranked : Why gold cannot party up with unranked players, but can still end up matched with them ?


(Nail) #23

nobody plays ranked because the games are not balanced, the games are not balanced because nobody plays ranked

this is why SD took away min level obj servers, so people would play ranked, they need people to play ranked lots to teach the CMM tapirs how to be better. People don’t want to test games (even though they signed up to) they just want to play games, they also don’t want to play support that much, they’re max killers don’t cha know, so self med/self revive rambo shooters are cool, if they could have replenishing ammo and choice of any primary with any augment, they would be smugly happy but still complain there was no medics

/sarcasm

Dirty Bomb NEEDS people to play ranked and LOTS, the more we play the better CMM will get, this must be obvious to everyone. It’s not the best of worlds but I don’t really see anything better right now, the price is right, especially compared to EA


(ThunderZsolt) #24

@Ptiloui said:
Another question after the last awful experience i had in ranked : Why gold cannot party up with unranked players, but can still end up matched with them ?

lol, idk what to say. I think it would be best to remove that restriction, I don’t know how does it prevent smurfing.

On the other hand, one of my friends finished his 10 placement games earlier, so we couldn’t play together until I also did them, was annoying af


(bgyoshi) #25

@Nail said:
nobody plays ranked because the games are not balanced, the games are not balanced because nobody plays ranked

Dirty Bomb NEEDS people to play ranked and LOTS, the more we play the better CMM will get, this must be obvious to everyone.

On a base level, until Ranked is at least 6v6, I won’t come close to it.

Ever.

And that’s just step 1, to get me to even consider it playable. There are more steps that have to happen once that does.


(pumpkinmeerkat) #26

Solos only would get me excited about ranked. With low player numbers I’m not sure it’s possible but would be great!


(GatoCommodore) #27

@bgyoshi said:

@Nail said:
nobody plays ranked because the games are not balanced, the games are not balanced because nobody plays ranked

Dirty Bomb NEEDS people to play ranked and LOTS, the more we play the better CMM will get, this must be obvious to everyone.

On a base level, until Ranked is at least 6v6, I won’t come close to it.

Ever.

And that’s just step 1, to get me to even consider it playable. There are more steps that have to happen once that does.

can we get 6v6 for the next ranked season?
would you ask this to SD?


(binderr) #28

Whats funny is even if you have lower ping than many other players, you can still lag and get gib shotted by players wit high ping. lower ping supposed to give you an advantage over another player with high ping but on DB servers its mix or both worlds.

Even you you have the lowest ping and you can still suffer all the lag/stutter and rubber-banding. If I’m from uk, playing on a ‘london’ server, i’de have a great ping (20-30 or less) but my game play still feels like i have high ping!! its just frustrating.

Perhaps instead of focus on content, they could relay the focus on server stability/net code optimization in the near future.


(binderr) #29

@Nail said:
Dirty Bomb NEEDS people to play ranked and LOTS, the more we play the better CMM will get, this must be obvious to everyone. It’s not the best of worlds but I don’t really see anything better right now, the price is right, especially compared to EA

I get what your saying but I don’t think DB is doing anything worth while to attract new players. all the content update is great but if new players can’t grasp this game in less than 5-10 hours, they will never stay on.

three things maybe stopping new players from staying …

  1. punishing crafting system that forces players to grind for hours before you can craft anything
  2. equipment cases rewarding nothing but junk (most times)
  3. premium skins (gold/cabolt/special) locked under rng with extremely low chance of getting what you REALLY WANT!

I’ve tried to get my friends on this game but they hate the rng. They liked the gold/cabolt skins but you can’t pay for them straight forward, so why pay £30 or so and take a 5% chance on a cabolt skin.

All I’m saying is DB should ease up on the rng and come up with a balance that at least guarantees (x) number of gold or cabolt skin if your paying for cases or something.

I love playing this game, trust me I have just over 1400 hours now (lol) but the rng always puts me off the elite cases and don’t buy them.


(aminuseternal) #30

There are going to be some changes they hinted at in the last video, but yeah I agree, I would spend more money if I could just get the skins I wanted, because I would buy more for more mercs. Instead of just trying to get one random loadout for one specific merc.

Really feeling the salt a bit on the ranked cases, because not only do they never drop but its completely random for what merc you are going to get. Meaning there is a good chance you might not even get the mercs you actually use because personally I only use about three or four specific mercs for ranked.

And without a trading system, you end up getting stuck with either end up getting duplicates or cards you dont even want for special editions.


(Nail) #31

@binderr said:

@Nail said:
Dirty Bomb NEEDS people to play ranked and LOTS, the more we play the better CMM will get, this must be obvious to everyone. It’s not the best of worlds but I don’t really see anything better right now, the price is right, especially compared to EA

I get what your saying but I don’t think DB is doing anything worth while to attract new players. all the content update is great but if new players can’t grasp this game in less than 5-10 hours, they will never stay on.

three things maybe stopping new players from staying …

  1. punishing crafting system that forces players to grind for hours before you can craft anything
  2. equipment cases rewarding nothing but junk (most times)
  3. premium skins (gold/cabolt/special) locked under rng with extremely low chance of getting what you REALLY WANT!

I’ve tried to get my friends on this game but they hate the rng. They liked the gold/cabolt skins but you can’t pay for them straight forward, so why pay £30 or so and take a 5% chance on a cabolt skin.

All I’m saying is DB should ease up on the rng and come up with a balance that at least guarantees (x) number of gold or cabolt skin if your paying for cases or something.

I love playing this game, trust me I have just over 1400 hours now (lol) but the rng always puts me off the elite cases and don’t buy them.

these things shall happen


(emjot) #32

@binderr said:

@Nail said:
Dirty Bomb NEEDS people to play ranked and LOTS, the more we play the better CMM will get, this must be obvious to everyone. It’s not the best of worlds but I don’t really see anything better right now, the price is right, especially compared to EA

I get what your saying but I don’t think DB is doing anything worth while to attract new players. all the content update is great but if new players can’t grasp this game in less than 5-10 hours, they will never stay on.

three things maybe stopping new players from staying …

  1. punishing crafting system that forces players to grind for hours before you can craft anything
  2. equipment cases rewarding nothing but junk (most times)
  3. premium skins (gold/cabolt/special) locked under rng with extremely low chance of getting what you REALLY WANT!

I’ve tried to get my friends on this game but they hate the rng. They liked the gold/cabolt skins but you can’t pay for them straight forward, so why pay £30 or so and take a 5% chance on a cabolt skin.

All I’m saying is DB should ease up on the rng and come up with a balance that at least guarantees (x) number of gold or cabolt skin if your paying for cases or something.

I love playing this game, trust me I have just over 1400 hours now (lol) but the rng always puts me off the elite cases and don’t buy them.

I like it, more than that I have 3 cobalts I don’t even play with, but when I finally get my dream card, I don’t want it to be so easy to get for everyone. I want to keep this feeling like it’s special.

Don’t get me wrong, but what you just wrote is just… stupid. Players won’t stay in game because they can’t get blue card? Like… really?

I think we demand too much… BUT!

As I mentioned earlier with SE loadouts and Ranked ones:
Let us pick a 1 card out of 3 cards.

Basically, when you hit the 2% chance on SE edition card, let it roll 3 cards so you can pick one.


(Artyrim) #33

@binderr said:
I’ve tried to get my friends on this game but they hate the rng. They liked the gold/cabolt skins but you can’t pay for them straight forward, so why pay £30 or so and take a 5% chance on a cabolt skin.

Oh god is just a fuckin skin. I used the ones i crafted . Started with bronze/silver then gold and now I don’t give a shit about them unless is from an Event and is nice looking. I crafted 3 shitty kira cobalts without katana and 3 shitty proxie with remburg/other shotgun and in the end i kept using the bronzes one.

I saw my first cobalt from a random case at lv 48 AND THE NEXT DAY I GOT AN ANOTHER COBALT OMG this RANDOM luck.