Perhaps we need multiple levels of banning then.
If we have no reasonable doubt then they should be banned from DB.
If it’s an absolute slam-dunk certainty they should be banned from the online portion of all their steam games.
And remember: they can still appeal.
Counterstrike CS:GO is literally unplayable at the highest tiers of MM due to rampant hacking
Most high level players opt to use ESEA.
im almost level 9 and ive only seen one that made me suspicious he was botting. but he was playing vaseline and that camper rifle has an amazingly low skill requirement so he may just of been good.
thing is its so much more preferable to think the opponent is cheating than you got beat and thats normal , but one report of an aimbot will spawn a dozen more. im not saying they are not out there they always are, i just suspect there are a lot less than most people think.
i play on EU , region might make a difference to i guess.
so i usually do scores like 35-40 and sometimes 50 kills, this means that i am cheating? or am i stomping on new players? i’m getting tired of THE NEW PEOPLE saying and claiming that X person is cheating because they got raped by them. No. The only problem here is that NEXON/SD should make servers for lvls 10+ and so on, this will prevent newbs getting raped by veteran players and would be easy to ban cheaters and prevent them to level up.
can someone explain to me how anyone gets any reaction out of getting hackusations? Congrats on getting 35+ kills avg, that’s not unusual lol, what are you getting uptight for.
Due to the influx of new people there are A LOT of cheat accusations in the open beta. So far I’ve yet to even encounter a single aimbot or triggerbot since about a week before open beta even started. I’m not saying they aren’t around but I have a feeling there are a lot of accusations that are going against people who are throwing up great numbers on public servers because they’ve played the game for months + are just good players in general as opposed to cheating.
Let’s try and keep this thread on topic 
The truth is that hackers do exist and are ruining the game for others. It isn’t nearly as often as people claim IMHO, but it is happening. Accusing a player of hacking is a serious thing because not only does it lump them in with people generally considered to be scum but it also discounts that players practice, hard work and skill.
I completely agree that most accusations of hax are BS.
But I still nailed one guy for obviously tracking people’s heads through walls (and no, there wasn’t a heartbeat sensor in play) and another guy because his target sight was ‘snapping’ right onto people’s heads without travelling through the intervening space.
There are definitely some haxors about.
But I seriously doubt any claim that there are enough of them to cause any damage to the community.
We still need a way to report them effectively though, and right now I’m not sure what that is.
The one thing you can do as a player is if you are called a cheat then don’t react poorly. Point out your level, how many hours of experience you have or even give some basic tips that others might have missed. I’ve done this quite a bit recently and I’ve went from players calling me a cheat to sending me Steam friend invites. You can do a lot to help alleviate some players concerns. Not everyone, obviously. But there are quite a few things you can do.
Hell, last night some guy asked me where I downloaded my aim assist. I responded jokingly with “15 years of Q3 experience” and added a few pieces of info about the game and I suddenly went from being the server hated aimbot guy to being the guy who answered a ton of questions people had.
Honestly I tend to just ignore them. They’re baiting anyway.[/quote]
I kind of explained this in the rest of the post you didn’t include in the quote 
I’m still waiting to hear what the official way of reporting haxors is?
Should we still email support or not?
I don’t want to waste my, or anyone else’s, time by sending screenshots etc. to the wrong address.
The real problem is that even if a cheater gets his/her account banned. They can just go and make a new one. And unless they spent money on the account they dont really lose anything. If they have any brains at all they probably wont be spending money on something they will be sure to lose eventually. An argument can be made that they lose all the time they’ve spent on the account but that amount of time shouldn’t be high if they’ve spent the whole time cheating.
Thoughts?
[quote=“fascinatingThimble;26454”]The real problem is that even if a cheater gets his/her account banned. They can just go and make a new one. And unless they spent money on the account they dont really lose anything. If they have any brains at all they probably wont be spending money on something they will be sure to lose eventually. An argument can be made that they lose all the time they’ve spent on the account but that amount of time shouldn’t be high if they’ve spent the whole time cheating.
Thoughts?[/quote]
It definitely creates a balancing act for the Devs/GMs…
[quote=“brawnyJester;25244”]Counterstrike CS:GO is literally unplayable at the highest tiers of MM due to rampant hacking
Most high level players opt to use ESEA.[/quote]
Wasa ESEA?
[quote=“fascinatingThimble;26454”]The real problem is that even if a cheater gets his/her account banned. They can just go and make a new one. And unless they spent money on the account they dont really lose anything. If they have any brains at all they probably wont be spending money on something they will be sure to lose eventually. An argument can be made that they lose all the time they’ve spent on the account but that amount of time shouldn’t be high if they’ve spent the whole time cheating.
Thoughts?[/quote]
I don’t know if it’s still possible/acceptable, but back in the days (BF2, COD4), punkbuster could ban MAC addresses directly after repeated cheating detection upon a same hardware rig. That’s strong, very punitive (too much maybe), but it makes cheaters face their own responsibilities. On top of that, if players thought that a motherboard replacement was enough, pb used to detect the rest of the rig. Have fun cheating with that upon your head…
The issue with banning any hardware ID’s is that any good cheat program will simply change what the hardware ID is on a cheater’s PC. Quite a few programs can intercept the hardware ID’s and change them on the fly to something random. Most likely a lot of the software that is already out there for cheaters to use already does this as it’s pretty old hat these days. Not only that, and this is only a theory, but a cheat program could harvest hardware ID’s from other PC’s and a person who didn’t cheat could end up banned as well. It’s the same concept as why you should rarely ever ban IP addresses or IP blocks.
