Fix the Dirty Bomb Aimbot problem PLEASE

(overwhelmingShellfish) #1

I’ve been on six servers today with people using aimbots, it’s getting pretty serious now when you can’t even play a round without these cheaters! What is the plan to fix the problem? I noticed the hacks work even with the anti-cheat running, so how are these coders beating the system?

The guy in our server was flying around the map, using some teleport thing to go through walls, killing everyone at once and even advertising with a chat spammer. He had all the weapons and every character, he even floating in mid air at one point (not funny).

PLEASE fix this ASAP because the game is super fun and I love it… but only when a hacker isn’t going 52 / 0

Developers: To find the site I’m talking about just search “dirty bomb hacks” on Google, the guys advertising in game are the top site on Google

FIX IT PLEASE !! :confused:

(pDub) #2

I havnt seen many hackers at all. Only a few, Most the time its vets going 52-2 against a full comp game of level 5s

(_Sniff_) #3

[quote=“overwhelmingShellfish;11529”]so how are these coders beating the system?
[/quote]
So this is a problem with computers in general.
Everything is hackable. Everything. As soon as you have any code on your pc it is hackable. Regardless of any anticheat you have it’s hackable.

This is why there are hacks for every game.

As soon as you update the anticheat for hacks you have created multiple new ways to get around it. It’s really annoying. Kind of like fighting a hydra. Cut off 1 head 3 more grow in it’s place.

(Amerika) #4

One that that many people always seem to get wrong is that cheats need to be found, added into the system and detected (sometimes companies wait to do a big ban wave). Anti-cheat programs can’t just suddenly see a guy aimbotting and ban them. It doesn’t work that way. So you will run into cheaters from time to time in every single game you play online…especially FPS games.

With that said you can do things about it if you want. You can simply go to spec, record the cheater for about 60 seconds, upload it to YT and set the video to unlisted and then contact Nexon support. They will deal with it within a day or two. I’ve done this many times.

If you don’t want to do that then just leave the server or try to get people to vote kick the person.

I haven’t seen a cheater since probably a week or so before Open Beta started. So make sure you’re just not getting beat by much more experienced players. Cheaters usually get banned pretty quickly so if you’re dying to people who are level 15 or higher then there is a good chance they are just very good.

(Mr-Penguin) #5

Whoa…flying around the map? Teleporting? Just take a screenshot, leave the server, and report it. If this guy was floating in the air, then obviously you should take a screenshot. And from my experience, I’ve only seen one or two hackers. If it really bugs you, leave and find a new server.

(Amerika) #6

I’ve yet to see anybody use any noclip cheat in Dirty Bomb. I’ve only seen aimbots, triggerbots and wallhacks.

(flow) #7

Anti-Cheat 101

Contact me.

(misspo) #8

Well, because the game is open beta and became more popular lately, it’s normal to see more hackers. But it’s still manegable for the developers to manualy ban rapidly because there are not that many people reporting cheaters atm. I’m not sure it will continue with time.

Like the guy said, generaly account like 10-15levels or uppers are not cheaters. Accounts get ban sooner :slight_smile: But if he is like level 6 or inferior, be afraid :slight_smile:

With more and more people playing this game, i don’t think Splash damage will manage to kill cheaters enough. And if serious programmers see an opportunity to make money with the game, it will become very very hard to play in good conditions.

Because the anticheat used is pretty bad and if DB is still alive is because hackers doesn’t really care about this game yet :slight_smile:

(Pogo) #9

There’s a couple players I’ve seen that manage to get shots with insane reaction time, but have some truly awful aim with other mercs like Sawbonez. A lot of these players I’ve noticed are almost always under level 8 or so.

it doesn’t concern me who is cheating, that’s on Splash Damage, but it definitely seems like a pretty solid issue.

(barbaricPriest) #10

Just got off a game with 3 guys on enemy team with aimbot and instant objective capture. level 4’s who only get head shots with any weapon and ran around immediately capturing points

(Pogo) #11

Immediately capturing points?

(brawnyJester) #12

Engineers?

(APRenpsy) #13

[quote=“Sniff;24641”][quote=“overwhelmingShellfish;11529”]so how are these coders beating the system?
[/quote]
So this is a problem with computers in general.
Everything is hackable. Everything. As soon as you have any code on your pc it is hackable. Regardless of any anticheat you have it’s hackable.

This is why there are hacks for every game.

As soon as you update the anticheat for hacks you have created multiple new ways to get around it. It’s really annoying. Kind of like fighting a hydra. Cut off 1 head 3 more grow in it’s place.
[/quote]

HAIL HYDRA!!!

Sorry had to.

(triteTongs) #14

Saw a level 7 blatantly cheating. I doubt he will get banned because it’s so tedious to report. Dealing with cheaters needs to be easier. Simple.

That’s why VAC’s ideology tries to make it difficult for a cheater to make cheats

(Old Man) #15

Counter Strike games so far have the best ways of dealing with cheaters. Something to learn from them. The issue here is that Dirty Bomb is F2P game. Getting a new account is really easy and FREE. That’s why I think the game should cost at least $20/£15 and ability to chose mercs/loadouts for that price.

To be fair with such hectic action in Dirty Bomb it is quite hard to decide if someone is cheating or not. Scores like 24-1 can happen especially if the other team is just bad. Still I have to say there are highly suspicious due the average Time To Kill in the game.

A good kick vote system would be a good start. Correct me if I’m wrong but you can’t votekick players from other team at this moment?

(Ghosthree3) #16

Can happen?! I get scores like that every second game and I only started playing a week before OB. Scores like that are not a can, they are a will, they will happen in every other game in pub games if there are good players in them.

(Pogo) #17

Fair Fight is an interesting anti-cheat that records player behavior and flags anyone who drastically changes in skill. Blatant players are also easily banned.

The anti-cheat can also be set to not automated, so flagged players or cheaters will have to be assessed before banned. It has its own flaws, but it’s a nice system in BF4 and APB. It’s way more efficient and less intrusive than xigncode3, no question.

(Runeforce) #18

Never encountered a aimbot yet. They are out there, no doubt, but not near as common as good players, that will own your ***! And let me add, so you will not be in doubt, that **** *** ******* *** ******!!!

If I had a penny for every kid wrongly calling hax, I’d be a millionaire.

(TitaniumTeddyBear) #19

I’m level 14 and I’ve seen two definite cheaters, and 3 ‘maybes’.

As far as I can tell they really aren’t that common.

And the thing about the ‘maybes’ is that if they aren’t clearly abusing their power then their affect on the game isn’t very different from someone who is just an extremely good player.

I know it’s annoying, and we should definitely report them, but it doesn’t actually ruin the game.

Also, I’ve seen far more allegations of haxing that don’t seem to have any evidence supporting them, than I have seen actual haxors.

And come on guys, in what way is reporting them difficult? All you need to do is send an email to tech support.

Or at least that used to be the way, apparently they are changing to some new system now?

@MissMurder what is the official method of reporting haxors?

In any event here is my plan for dealing with proven haxors:
Ban them from the online version of EVERY GAME THEY HAVE ON STEAM.

Like it?

See, now that DB is on Steam there’s no reason why SD can’t get on board with Valve and work together to hit the haxors where it really hurts.

At the very least their Steam profile should carry an undeletable tag that says “This Player is a Confirmed Cheat and Game Hacker”.

Let them try and live that crap down.

(assuming they’re playing off a Steam account of course)

I do have two concerns though:

  1. We have to make sure that anyone who gets punished is a PROVEN haxor.

It seems like every time someone gets pwned in a duel they cry “HAX!” I play with a very high ping, so naturally I get accused of hax from time to time (mostly by people who don’t know how anti-lag works).

If we’re going to start punishing people we need to be sure.

  1. We can’t make the reporting feature too easy.

Seriously. If reporting someone for hax is as simple as pressing a button then tech support is going to spammed to death under a tide of butthurt.

I think that sending an email is the perfect system. We all have access to it, it’s easy, but it isn’t so easy that people will do it frivolously.

(Ghosthree3) #20

[quote=“TitaniumTeddyBear;25156”]In any event here is my plan for dealing with proven haxors:
Ban them from the online version of EVERY GAME THEY HAVE ON STEAM.[/quote]
Bad idea, what if they were banned falsely? It happens, then they’re out thousands of dollars.

This is basically what “VAC ban on record” is.