[quote=“Kroad;50155”][quote=“Nail;50151”]why yes they are, this isn’t the only game they have
and this one is free, not a huge income[/quote]
They claim to listen to the community, and the community was fairly clear about what it wants- complete removal[/quote]
they listen to their community, not the reddit ravers, that place exists for the sole reason of being toxic, imho
[quote=“Nail;50186”][quote=“Kroad;50155”][quote=“Nail;50151”]why yes they are, this isn’t the only game they have
and this one is free, not a huge income[/quote]
They claim to listen to the community, and the community was fairly clear about what it wants- complete removal[/quote]
they listen to their community, not the reddit ravers, that place exists for the sole reason of being toxic, imho
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the poll in which 85% of players voted for removal was on these forums, the official nexon forums, not on reddit
if listening to the community means not listening to reddit, or to the official forums, what does it mean? Listening to the SD forums that most people don’t even know of? The VIP forums that most people don’t have access to?
it’s funny nail, i remember you quite clearly posting on the SD forums that aimpunch was only visual, then when asked to prove it you didn’t answer. You then posted same thing on these forums, then when asked to prove it you didn’t answer. do you actually know what you’re talking about now?
[quote=“Nail;50151”]they listen to their community, not the reddit ravers, that place exists for the sole reason of being toxic, imho
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So you’re saying they listen to a cherry picked portion of the community which is less accessible than the other format?
If Reddit existed for the sole reason of being toxic, they wouldn’t give a shit about balance.
God help this community with opinions like this, I’ve seen them flourish in other communities and it’s never fun.
if you seriously think that the only reason they are concerned with balance is because of reddit, I’m sorry, life on your planet must be harsh
btw, part of the reason the VIP forums exist is they value our input, not more than anyone else’s but easier to sort through the drama, people explain themselves to others who listen first, contemplate, then answer unlike reddit, Steam and here
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btw, part of the reason the VIP forums exist is they value our input, not more than anyone else’s but easier to sort through the drama, people explain themselves to others who listen first, contemplate, then answer unlike reddit, Steam and here[/quote]
so yes, a forum accessible only to those that cared about the game years ago and were willing to spend a bunch of money on it, represents exactly what the community wants
those VIPs are basically all SD game vets, if anything their views do not represent the community in any way, “people explain themselves” makes me lol when you won’t even explain how aimpunch is only visual and then go on to post same bullshit on other forums
the community is the SD forums which include the VIP section, plus forums for their other games
think what you want, I’m under no obligation to explain things to you or anyone else, yes VIPs are SD vets, very few paid to get in, most of us were invited. VIP forums are about way more than Dirty Bomb, they include all the games although for the present DB is foremost. You’re pretty set in your “knowledge of the game” so nothing will change it.
btw, we’ve known the update changes for a week
i want to ask something
in competitive
if my internet stop working for 1 min i can back to the game when my internet back ?
SD-VIPs have been just as vocal about removing aimpunch, and since forever as well. Here, or on SD forums.
85% is HUGE, and regardless of the statistics themselves, no single coherent argument was brought forward for keeping aimpunch in the game. Whereas several such arguments were given by the other side:
edit: there was one argument - to counter Sniper’s Instagib, but at this point the instagib itself could easily be removed from the game, with benefits to gameplay.
My reaction for that kind of patch(before it was stated):
My reaction after reading this:
Can we just wait and see what happens with the aim punch changes?, the same discussions over and over are getting ever so tedious.
I dislike aimpunch but it has been in the game for a long time, yet only since the last patch has the vast majority of people actually noticed / cared about it which does show that a lot of people are jumping on the hate bandwagon.
[quote=“Tomme;50337”]Can we just wait and see what happens with the aim punch changes?, the same discussions over and over are getting ever so tedious.
I dislike aimpunch but it has been in the game for a long time, yet only since the last patch has the vast majority of people actually noticed / cared about it which does show that a lot of people are jumping on the hate bandwagon.[/quote]
i never liked it, but it was at a level i could ignore. But if we are ‘talking aimpunch’ its worth saying that it could be removed completely
some things were removed; like silver&gold exclusives.
Just because phantom is adjusted, doesnt mean aimpunch will never be removed. Each issue is considered by SD individually, so far.
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i never liked it, but it was at a level i could ignore. But if we are ‘talking aimpunch’ its worth saying that it could be removed completely[/quote]
Oh I would love for it to be removed but little do people know the recent aimpunch change actually benefits many peoples aim. It was changed to reset (zero) quicker than before - but as it resets quickly, it moves much faster causing a more jarring effect. See the image below.
More information posted by Smooth can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Dirtybomb/comments/3cnp5r/the_brink_continuum_or_sds_flawed_approach_to/csxay4g
[quote=“Tomme;50365”][quote=“Szakalot;50343”]
i never liked it, but it was at a level i could ignore. But if we are ‘talking aimpunch’ its worth saying that it could be removed completely[/quote]
Oh I would love for it to be removed but little do people know the recent aimpunch change actually benefits many peoples aim. It was changed to reset (zero) quicker than before - but as it resets quickly, it moves much faster causing a more jarring effect. See the image below.
More information posted by Smooth can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Dirtybomb/comments/3cnp5r/the_brink_continuum_or_sds_flawed_approach_to/csxay4g
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yeah, a more jarring effect makes it harder to aim because it’s more jarring
It looks more jarring but if you aim zeros/resets quicker than that allows you get more shots off at you intended location. Like I said before I do not like aimpunch just the amount of posts and exaggeration about it grinds on me.
[quote=“Tomme;50370”][quote=“Kroad;50369”]
yeah, a more jarring effect makes it harder to aim because it’s more jarring
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It looks more jarring but if you aim zeros/resets quicker than that allows you get more shots off at you intended location. Like I said before I do not like aimpunch just the amount of posts and exaggeration about it grinds on me.
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not really since a slower animation makes compensating for the aimpunch easier
[quote=“Kroad;50392”][quote=“Tomme;50370”][quote=“Kroad;50369”]
yeah, a more jarring effect makes it harder to aim because it’s more jarring
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It looks more jarring but if you aim zeros/resets quicker than that allows you get more shots off at you intended location. Like I said before I do not like aimpunch just the amount of posts and exaggeration about it grinds on me.
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not really since a slower animation makes compensating for the aimpunch easier
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exactly,
its not purely about the shots going off target, due to aimpunch. Viewkick is also disorienting, especially in a fast-paced game like this where you have to track heads.
ET had bigger viewkick, but it was only that, to be honest not sure which I dislike more, but imo they both could simply go away
Wow, so much anger here… Looks like dicks are not only spreading in the game but onto the forums too.
It’s just a game, it’s just a patch, take it easy. This went completely off topic with this aim punch sh!t brought by some fanatics…
Clap your hand for the patch, thanks them and remember: Don’t be a dick!
[quote=“virtoc;50414”]Wow, so much anger here… Looks like dicks are not only spreading in the game but onto the forums too.
It’s just a game, it’s just a patch, take it easy. This went completely off topic with this aim punch sh!t brought by some fanatics…
Clap your hand for the patch, thanks them and remember: Don’t be a dick![/quote]
More like passionate debate 
and most posters in this thread have been around for a good long while. I also believe most of us here are hoping for same things a reduction or removal of aimpunch but simply have different ways of showing it.