False Hacking Accusations


(geronimoooo) #41

I usually have even k/d or negative and mostly focus on objectives.

But first time I got positive score, something like 21/17. I got accused of being a hacker. I was proud to finally have a good game and accusation like that made me think that I really could get good in this game. No accusations since, but I am still here and playing and learning.


(_retired_) #42

[quote=“Amerika;76124”]They might have never cheated up until that point. Some people pull out cheats in MP games once they feel they are done with them as they no longer care about their accounts. Don’t assume they cheated all the way up to 11 because with how fast support bans people I seriously doubt they did.[/quote]Or they have hit their personal skill ceiling and they start doing bad/losing regularly so it’s time to take look at the methods to cheat.


(aRagRappy) #43

[quote=“Kaos88;76125”]
The trouble is the spectate is bugged, so you don’t actually see what the guy who is shooting is seeing. So it’s pretty pointless really. That’s why i can’t spectate this game in comps as it just looks like every1 is missing so you are not seeing the great shots and tracking. I prefer to just watch some1s stream muted with the casters stream sound on :)[/quote]

You can still notice certain oddities in spectate, like someone constantly snapping to around the heads of targets they never saw. Or even weird firing patterns with a triggerbot, such as VERY small pauses in their shots when their cursor keeps moving briefly off and on a target. ONLY firing when their cursor is on a target, even players with really good aim arent going to land basically every shot. Or Killing full hp targets, even coming out of spawn with one shot to the body with secondary weapons. So even with spectate not being 100% accurate you can still spot hacks.


(Kaos88) #44

[quote=“aRagRappy;76195”][quote=“Kaos88;76125”]
The trouble is the spectate is bugged, so you don’t actually see what the guy who is shooting is seeing. So it’s pretty pointless really. That’s why i can’t spectate this game in comps as it just looks like every1 is missing so you are not seeing the great shots and tracking. I prefer to just watch some1s stream muted with the casters stream sound on :)[/quote]

You can still notice certain oddities in spectate, like someone constantly snapping to around the heads of targets they never saw. Or even weird firing patterns with a triggerbot, such as VERY small pauses in their shots when their cursor keeps moving briefly off and on a target. ONLY firing when their cursor is on a target, even players with really good aim arent going to land basically every shot. Or Killing full hp targets, even coming out of spawn with one shot to the body with secondary weapons. So even with spectate not being 100% accurate you can still spot hacks.[/quote]

Oh without a doubt it’s better to have it then not. If it’s a blatant hacker it will still show you how they twitch ect. It’s the closet ones you gotta worry about. There was a player in Loadout who tricked every1 for years by being sneeky. He was only found out by another player doing some deep researching. Never by the actual anti-cheat.


(Amerika) #45

[quote=“Kaos88;76199”][quote=“aRagRappy;76195”][quote=“Kaos88;76125”]
The trouble is the spectate is bugged, so you don’t actually see what the guy who is shooting is seeing. So it’s pretty pointless really. That’s why i can’t spectate this game in comps as it just looks like every1 is missing so you are not seeing the great shots and tracking. I prefer to just watch some1s stream muted with the casters stream sound on :)[/quote]

You can still notice certain oddities in spectate, like someone constantly snapping to around the heads of targets they never saw. Or even weird firing patterns with a triggerbot, such as VERY small pauses in their shots when their cursor keeps moving briefly off and on a target. ONLY firing when their cursor is on a target, even players with really good aim arent going to land basically every shot. Or Killing full hp targets, even coming out of spawn with one shot to the body with secondary weapons. So even with spectate not being 100% accurate you can still spot hacks.[/quote]

Oh without a doubt it’s better to have it then not. If it’s a blatant hacker it will still show you how they twitch ect. It’s the closet ones you gotta worry about. There was a player in Loadout who tricked every1 for years by being sneeky. He was only found out by another player doing some deep researching. Never by the actual anti-cheat.[/quote]

That is how it tends to work out for people who are using a cheat who really want to hide it. I used to run CAL Anti-Cheat back in the day and we did investigative work that I believe was rather impressive. We had to piece together all kinds of clues gathered sometimes from all over the globe to get enough evidence to convict somebody and even then it was hard to prove without a doubt sometimes. Anti-cheats are there not to stop all cheating. They are there to stop as much as possible and the community has to do the rest.

Which is sometimes forgotten. Before every game became peer2peer based or had only had dev/publisher only servers, we had to do all the work ourselves. Setting up servers, paying for them and keeping them clean of cheaters using any and all tools available was all on the community. Which is why I sometimes shake my head at people who insist it isn’t their job to help keep servers clean of cheaters and seem to believe an AC should be 100% flawless despite, in over 20 years of them existing, this never being the case. At least in-game reporting will help with this.


(Fap Fap Master) #46

What’s even worse is when you call out a hacker (evidence: 1 hit me with timik when I was on 120hp), and nobody believes you.


(aRagRappy) #47

its worse when they’re 1 shotting people in spawn with low dmg weapons like the tolen and people arent the least bit suspicious


(D'@athi) #48

The probably worst problem is, most people having played a bit, already have specced some obvious cheaters, and most of them would have reported it, if it wouldn’t mandatory mean wasting (as it is f2p) some of your time, and on top of that, switching off the pro-privacy/anti-advertisment-addons you got installed.

Seeing it in my pov, I really became some kind of paranoid, but still, I stopped speccing people, because which new-steam-account cares, even if these people where obvious? Right. 2less2late. Have fun as long, as the game is playable.

Edit: Wait. The people people accusing me of cheating my whatever it may be skill, and even my nolife-level? Yes, whatever, I love them noobs. Thx.


(LANshark) #49

It’s quite amusing for me actually because my aim is fucking horrid. Shaky, unsteady, just a complete mess. Actually speccing me would solve any question of aimbotting. It’s good enough though that I can rape pubs.[/quote]

my aim is miserable. I have sprayed clips at people and not killed them. When it happens i switch to nader and use her launcher; lobbing explosives has always bee n calming to me in games. Playing TF2 demoman doesn’t hurt either


(Funkmaster_Rick) #50

If you can’t stomach the taste of other peoples’ tears, you should probably avoid the internet altogether; it has a higher ratio of personality disorders and otherwise salty people than most communities. My brother keeps a number after his name in CS:GO - he adds 1 every time he gets called a hacker. It’s kind of glorious.

That being said, Nexon doesn’t not strike me as a terribly tight security system. I have already run across several legitimate hackers - though perhaps the word skiddie is more appropriate, given that they just buy subscriptions to hacks these days instead of putting in the work. While normally I would tell you to now worry about it, to put your feet up and light a cigar in victory - well, who knows, right? And given that it’s a fairly new game, one assumes their logging systems are not always perfect.

All said, I still wouldn’t worry. In fact, I would still egg them on when they call me a hacker, but that’s just me.


(asparagusMist) #51

id say 95 percent of people i have checked while in game who looked dirty had vac bans. there is a serious amount of hacking in this game currently. the anticheat system is pretty bad.


(Viquel) #52

Just tell them that you would use a sophisticated hardware device that automatically sends movement commands when you press specific keys. You also have a second one that you wiggle around to modify what part of the virtual world is displayed to you. It also has buttons, and one of them improves your aim, the other makes people dead you point at.


(Funkmaster_Rick) #53

Tell them all about your sick lifehax.


(LANshark) #54

its still better than XignCode


(Amerika) #55

At least you bothered to check. None of the people on this server bothered to check my Steam profile which is annoying. Well, one guy did later apparently and I talked to him but he’d already done the damage on server with false accusations.


(Bu5hmast3r) #56

[quote=“Supa;17179”]Not sure why, but recently there has been a huge increase in the “OMG YOU ARE A HACKER. REPORTED…” accusations in public matches.

One thing that really bothered me during my time on CoD4 was getting banned from servers simply for doing well. Though annoying, CoD4 wasn’t that big of an issue because they were private clan servers. This meant that most of the time you could upload the demos from that game to their forums to prove your innocence. (Which brings up the importance of demos, hope they activate these soon!) However, we obviously have servers maintained by the devs. If someone is falsely banned (if this even occurs) how do they go about proving their innocence? So far all I can do is run OBS in the background but it is such a huge performance hit. Even with the “AMD VCE” GPU encoder it is difficult to play while it is running. (I have a good GPU and a terrible stock CPU)

My question to you guys is, how do you deal with these false accusations in-game? Normally I would just ignore it but I am not sure if it is the best idea in this case. Also, should I be worried that people have allegedly reported me simply for doing well? If at all, how common is it for people to be banned for false accusations? I am sure it is hard for the team to go through all of the reports and actually know if the accusations are factual, so I would not blame them if these slip-ups occur.

Not sure if anyone else has been experiencing this or if it is even an issue, but I figured i’d ask…
This is one of the best gaming communities I have seen and I am happy to be involved.

Thanks guys, much love.

-Supa[/quote]

OBS is no performance hit. I use it every day. play legit. how about your friend record with his smartphone while you playing and you two sweethearts put this on youtube.

isnt it enough to destroy this game. Do you search for absolution here while the game is infested with cheaters. Unreal engine is hacked and complete reverse engineered 20 years ago by helios. Every Game Hack rely on this.

And now you want some mild stroke on your head ?

buy some blink blink in the shop. The only thing whats work proper.


(SteelMailbox) #57

People don’t like to admit where they are going wrong or credit the other player so instead of blaming themselves or crediting they try to think of excuses to why they got killed.
When NGS went live on DB on my 1st game some guy was blaming someone for being a hacker who wasn’t, I told him “Bullshit, new AC” ever since then I saw about 20 hackusations and only 2 real hackers.
Hackusations are nothing, calling someone a hacker does nothing I usually ignore someone saying someone else is hacking unless I suspected him before so then I keep a close eye on him (the hacker). spectate is a useful tool it is just that sometimes it does not allow you to use it so hackusations will stay but usually it is more of a complement instead of a Busted.


(Sorotia) #58

At least you bothered to check. None of the people on this server bothered to check my Steam profile which is annoying. Well, one guy did later apparently and I talked to him but he’d already done the damage on server with false accusations.[/quote]

Wow…I wish I faced more people who stood still or ran in a straight line while being shot! lol

I don’t know…I watched the video and around the 6:15 mark you made quite the suspiciously good ammo toss to your team mate!


(MarsRover) #59

At least you bothered to check. None of the people on this server bothered to check my Steam profile which is annoying. Well, one guy did later apparently and I talked to him but he’d already done the damage on server with false accusations.[/quote]

Wow…I wish I faced more people who stood still or ran in a straight line while being shot! lol

I don’t know…I watched the video and around the 6:15 mark you made quite the suspiciously good ammo toss to your team mate![/quote]

Aimbot on ammo packs confimed! :smiley: Also XP farming because why else would you “waste” ammo on teammates when you can keep it for yourself…

@Amerika, please upload more of those hackusation games. They’re the best - great gameplay with a little bit of salt :slight_smile:

Haven’t seen a single cheater in pubs since the new anticheat.


(immenseWalnut) #60

I am too busy wasting him and his mates to really care if he accuses me of cheating. At the end of the day, he is a prime example of the Dunning Kruger effect, so who cares what he thinks, he is obviously both bad and stupid, so why waste your time acknowledging he even exists?

If you answer him, you are lowering yourself to his level, and you wont beat him, or even vaguely manage to convince him you aren’t cheating, so why waste your time? Arguing with rubbish players is like playing chess against a pigeon etc.