ETQW and Operating Systems


(corvey) #41

Windows XP home edition is a total piece of shit no way in hell I’ll ever use it on my machines. My wife has it on her machine and it really is a piece of shit OS, I’ve seen it in action (I’m getting her a new machine soon with XP Pro installed). Plus they criple out SMP support and other things. Windows XP Professional is not too bad, so I use that for games.

Bestbuy $299 US dollars for XP pro version
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6709065&type=product&id=1083713449054

Bestbuy $199 US dollars for XP homo version
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6709047&type=product&id=1083713449003


(Grifter77) #42

Vista is most probably going to be a slow starter. Enterprises will not benefit much by migrating to Vista. The o/s itself will be mostly eye candy add-on, still there will be some interesting new features like the PE possibility for trouble shooting and some new repair tools. The company aggressive stands and there savage capitalist methods are forcing me to reconsider my options. There products are not so bad but they aren’t the best either, other interesting possibilities are available for a lot less. Even if you don’t like Linux take the time to check out what you get with one distro, compared to what you get with the XP edition. I do not believe that getting an illegal copy of a MS operating system quite sends the right message to Microsoft. Supporting an alternative product: Mac, Linux, does send a warning to Microsoft. It tells them: they are not alone on the market in the minds of customers, there customers are not satisfied with there quality/price ratio. It also sends a beacon to the rest of the industry that they should consider supporting alternative o/s. Once the industry starts moving in that direction, MS will be force to reconsider there product line and strategy. Windows is the industry standard because we put them there by supporting it, with or without having paid for the software.

By the time Vista comes out I should have migrated fully to Linux, and keeping my XP as backup. After nearly 10 years in the field I do believe its time to send a clear message to the industry and I truly hope ET :QW will fully support Linux. It’s not enough to simply bitch about it, we need to do something about it.

If you do want to switch remember that Linux is an alternative not a replacement to Windoz

Some Linux distros :

Suse www.novell.com/products/suselinux
Fedora www.fedora.redhat.com
Redhat www.redhat.com
Xandros www.xandros.com
Mandriva wwwnew.mandriva.com
Gentoo www.gentoo.org
Kanotix www.kanotix.com/index.php?&newlang=eng


(ParanoiD) #43

I have tried linux, but in my eyes its not that user friendly. I cant get most things installed, luckily there was a good faq for my distro (Kubuntu). Then some apps were instable. Now the worst: When i once booted without a network cable plugged in i couldn’t get it working anymore. I juts couldnt get internet back in any way. So Linux has to improve on many points in my eyes if it wants to be windows replace worthy: Universal installer like windows exe files for all distro’s and easy repair restore like windows system recovery!

Mac OSX will be my next project to see if it is worthy next to windows as it can now boot on desktop pc’s but dont think that I want to use that as well. None of my current pc’s is capable for mac osx. Then ill buy a laptop soon, but I guess i need windows drivers to get wlan running (my friend couldnt turn it on as well in vista as acer didnt havew any drivers for it).

And about linux when it ran good on my pc, it couldnt boot faster tehn xp anyways, maybe it was even slower and i am really talking bout windows xp with a bunch of crap (MSN, WMP10 and FF starting). And this was on a PII 350 MHz with 256 MB.


(kamikazee) #44

You might want to try suse then, (k)ubuntu is a new one on the “market”.

Linux can load slower. It all depends on what distro, what you install on it, and how you tweak it. If configured propperly, it can run faster (and keeps running at that spead, whereas Windows might get bloated after a year)
Allso note that Linux loads it’s background processes BEFORE the graphical login, whilst Windows chokes up your pc AFTER login.


(Jaquboss) #45

Cruel thruth!


(Grifter77) #46

Linux is not meant to be faster it’s meant to have fewer flaws and be totally customisable, but yes right now the prize to be paid is on the user friendly side. It’s just a question of knowledge, anyways we are not here to debate the pros and cons. Just want people to realize that they are others out there that works pretty fine.

Sitting there and crying that Windoz suck is not going to resolve the issue and of course if companies like SD support other o/s, choices will only get better.

Choosing an operating system is mostly base on one’s knowledge and needs.


(B0rsuk) #47

Did you try putting the cable back in ? Always does the trick for me.
About universal installer… did you even try Adept or apt-get ? How much more universal can it get ?! You simply choose a program to install and that’s it. I can’t stand windows installers anymore. I can’t stand .rpm distros anymore. I have to download something, save it to the right directory, run it, choose install dir. Then after a while my directory with installers gets bloated and I start deleting old installers manually. Awful.
And another thing. I can reinstall my system (kubuntu) and only format /, swap, /tmp, or /var partitions. After reinstall, all I have to do is install glx (hardware acceleration), and I can get back to playing ET. Everything is preserved: my configs (ET and other programs), my wallpapers on desktop, desktop shortcuts, games, everything. I can even install another distro on it (without touching /home partition) and most of it will still work without any tweaks.


(kamikazee) #48

True… Changed from Mandrake to Gentoo here and didn’t suffer from any trouble.
I’ve tried it on a P2 333 MHz, a P3 450 MHz and some P4’s and it works just good.

The only thing I’m most worried about is if the ET:QW mapeditor will work in Linux straight away.


(ParanoiD) #49

I am not that stupid to not put in my cable. I tried pluging it in when booted and before putting on the pc. And yes Ive tried Adept, but still not EVERYTHING is available over there. No limewire, No new firefox etc etc. It was easy, but if it doesnt support everything its still crap.

@kamikazee, i know Linux startsall apps before and windows after getting to see the desktop. Still windows was still faster when it had all programms running starting from a batch. I have seen SuSe and looks cool as well, but I only saw DVD’s and my linux test pc only has a CD player so I choose Kubuntu as it was one of teh most userfriendly distro’s, then it had kde which looks like windows and was on CD so perfect for me trying out linux.

Still I stay with Windows coming years. Linux has to become better and i know Linux wouldnt be easy as windows. But windows runs stable with me and weve got a network at home where the rest uses windows and doesnt want to choose soemthing else. Then for school i will need windows as well. I really hope linux improves, but in its condition its only good enough for pro linux users.

Windows vista wont be bad, you can bash on XP as its not as secure as linux and max osx, but still windows xp is from 2001. I have hope for windows vista. It ran smooth when i saw it in teh beta and tehy have really interesting new options.