ET weapons SNAFU

(No1_sonuk) #1

What’s the story with the sniper rifle inaccuracy?
With the RTCW Mauser, I can hit/kill a moving target with 1 shot an average 40% of the time. With ET, I don’t seem to be able to hit/kill a stationary target without emptying the clip. Last night, it took 12 shots for me to kill another sniper who was standing still. And before you blame my ping, it was less then 50.

It’s a PITA and spoiling the game for me. I still play more RTCW than ET and will continue to until the ET weapons are finished.

The weapons SNAFUs are spoiling an otherwise good game. Why were they changed so drastically from RTCW? There was nothing wrong with them.

([B]Visa) #2

Hmmm not sure, I usually don’t have too much trouble hitting targets when I’m sniping (though there aren’t too many maps where it’s all that handy)…

Prolly just gotta get used to the hitboxes, they can be a little misleading especially if your target is prone…

If you really want to get in some good practice, try playing Rhine Bridge as axis and snipe from the top area in the axis tower by the bridge, it’s good pickins’ :clap:

Ike-T

(Kendle) #3

You’ll be playing more RTCW than ET for a while then, cos the weapons are finished. They suck (well, the Sniper Rifle does), but they’re finished.

(No1_sonuk) #4

Well no wonder the plug was pulled. I’m just glad I didn’t have to pay to be dissappointed.

Visa; The target was standing. Something must be out of whack with it. I went back to RTCW after that 12-shotter, and got 3 kills with my first 3 shots!

(Rippin Kitten) #5

You can’t kill with single shots in ET. Even a hit to the head only takes off 90 or so health.

Aim for the neck when you go for shots. The head hitboxes are a little flaky, but shots to the neck seem to hit every time. If you seem to keep missing, adjust your aim more towards the center of the model.

Anyway, you’re probably better off giving up on sniping and go with the more direct combat classes. Since you can’t kill with one hit and the defenders are more fortified on ET maps, sniping is probably best left as a counter to specific enemy tactics than as a standard operating procedure.

RK

(pw50King) #6

Yeah damnit! we want the instant death headshot back to the sniper rifle! plz!

(Zan) #7

And I want the instant death bodyshot new to the medic handgun! plz!

(Majin) #8

I like the way it is now.

A skilled sniper can kill people very easily.

And the only way it could take that much to kill someone is if you were using the FG42. Were you? Its not very accurate… not meant for long range, just medium range sniping and up close without scope, very up close.

And are you sure they weren’t gettomg medpacks? THEY weren’t lagging? There wasn’t something blocking your shots? You weren’t in non-scoped mode? The server didn’t have settings altered? For the love of god, please say you weren’t using the FG42?

(No1_sonuk) #9

No, I wasn’t using the FG42. I did try it, though, in case it was any better. But nope, it wasn’t.

IMO, the only ET weapons of any worth are the PF and MG42s. And that’s only because they have a decent “area effect”.

I think a mod that addresses the weapons issues would do very well in the community.

(cynric) #10

you can have those … headshots do 100 damage, thats enough to kill the target in one shot, if

  • they don’t have medics
  • the target doesn’t have at least lvl 3 in battle sense

on average, i need about 2-4 shots to kill a target with the scoped garand/k43, and i’m a lousy sniper

imho it’s a good thing, you can’t usually dominate a whole team with just 1 or 2 skilled snipers … makes a lousy game experience for all except those snipers, if you can

(Sick Boy) #11

No we do not! :angry:

I’m sure splashdamage thought this over very well, and knew that a map like fueldump would become impossible for allies with a couple of axis snipers with lethal headshots on the mountain.

Imo one of the best changes made in weapons compared to RTCW.

(Englander) #12

MP40 and Thomson are deadly,but if ur aim sux then i understand ur point.

(DG) #13

its quite normal to counter snipe more successfully with SMG. All the way accross the map. MP42 usually owns snipers with ease.

thats not how a sniper is supposed to be, the sniper is rubbish now. rtcw had the best sniper rifle since MDK, changing it was the worst decision in ET, and quite likely one of the reasons maps take 30mins.

of course a lot of people think its great because they were unable to master the concept of hiding from them and got tired of being owned by snipers.

(No1_sonuk) #14

Yup, DG, you’re right. Plus, a lot of the ET players that didn’t come from RTCW won’t know that an SMG beats a sniper if they get close enough.

That said, though, in RTCW I’ve surprised the hell out of more than one SMG wielder by running up, crouching, and sniping them within (equivalent) 10 yards of them!

(Ranstaton) #15

K43 actually kicks quite a lot of ass in close combat, if you are good with it. The advantage it has is that it doesn’t matter what you are doing (jumping/running/prone) the rifles accuracy is always the same (poor). So while an smg will probably want to stay on the ground, the rifleman can go crazy jumping, running and dodging shots. Also the fact that it has a stronger shot, and is relatively rapid fire.

(magnum_) #16

the weapons in this game are fine. there should never be a weapon made in a game that’s a one shot kill imo, that just ruins the game. especially a combat game like et. besides, snipers are already a pain the way it is with the textures in this game hiding their skins.

IMO, the only ET weapons of any worth are the PF and MG42s. And that’s only because they have a decent “area effect”…

rofl, i have to agree with englander here, the mp40 and thompson are nothing but pure ownage. on the other hand, u have to be able to AIM to appreciate their power. panzer imo are a strategic weapon, u can’t just jump out infront of someone and expect to win. it’s actually quite easy to kill a soldier with panzer and avoid their shots. although, i was playing the other day as lvl 4 panzer just messing around, and realized that the lvl 4 panzer with smg is unstoppable. i was clearing out the other team, with little work at that.

but if u must insist we kill the delicate weapon balance in this game, we should get the devs to put in a rpg7mm142sa7n42g supermassive4millionmega-ton demicmator. with optional scope of course! :eek:

(_placid_) #17

it takes 2 headshots to kill a stationary target unless it’s a medic who heals himself afterwards.

your problem is either a) you have no aim.
b)you’re not shooting what you should be shooting.
some of the hitboxes are fucked up and you might think you’re shooting some1 in the head, but the head box is really far off.

i’ve never had any problems sniping, and find it quite effective in appropriate situations.

i can make sure that there is no1 visible on the hill on battery walking around shooting builders and such, and pick off covert ops throwing satchels at the assault ramp before they can blow them.

if the game ever becomes a snipe fest where you can easily kill anyone with 1 shot i will detele the game instantly.

(No1_sonuk) #18

Nope, read the part about switching back to RTCW.

b)you’re not shooting what you should be shooting.
some of the hitboxes are fucked up and you might think you’re shooting some1 in the head, but the head box is really far off.
Some of my shots were aimed at the head, some slightly lower. It still shouldn’t have taken 12! (He was a CovOps too)

(Pamper) #19

Negative. FG42 shots do 15 damage, MP40 does 18. It doesn’t make sense for rifle bullets to be weaker than an SMG, but that’s how it is. (Real-world FG42 has a slightly smaller bullet, but double the energy pushing it)

Combine with worse spread and the smaller clip, and CovertOps have a real hard time standing up to other classes in close combat. Especially “Rambo” the medic.

(amazinglarry) #20

Are you serious? I’ve gotten PLENTY of one shot one kills with the sniper rifle in ET.

Obviously if the team has a few medics and stuff it’s a lot harder, especially with the hitboxes bein all crazy, but if you’ve NEVER had a one shot one kill with a sniper rifle in ET you’re obviously not that good with it. That is of course, if you’ve used it more than one time.