ET:QW - SP & Bots ???

(fretn) #21

now that’s pro-gaming :slight_smile:

(Nail) #22

I’ll play anything if they pay me :lol:

(Joe999) #23

you sure about that? did you try total overdose on pc? or farcry multiplayer? they can’t pay me that much that i would ever play these :smiley:

(BR1GAND) #24

ET was going to have some single player content in it before SD dropped it and released it for free. I think if SD puts out another game without single player content they are going to have a hard time justifying charging for it. Even BF2 and HL2/CSS have some sort of single player mode. SD please get this right and have decent bots ala Q3 or any other FPS worth a damn.

(mortis) #25

I’ll play anything if they pay me

I, also, am willing to play-for-pay!

Hell, i’d even play WoW if they pay me instead on the other way around…

–Mortis

** Willing to beta-test ET:QW for food **

(SCDS_reyalP) #26

Sorry, that has allready been outsourced to places with lower wages

(Joe999) #27

willing to beta-test ET:QW for free, i’d even drive to london at my own cost. would be some kind of pilgrimage. :clap: :moo:

but hey, the new job opportunities that arise with multiplayer games are quite good. if a company says their mp game got bots, they’d simply hire some cheap dummies and let them play day in day out as bots. i wonder what fatality or that chinese dude worked before they won the big money with online gameing :smiley:

(mortis) #28

Sorry, that has allready been outsourced to places with lower wages

dang it! we’ve been found-out again!

(Ifurita) #29

I think if SD puts out another game without single player content they are going to have a hard time justifying charging for it.

Where’s the logic behind this? What they did with ET is irrelevent to what they charge for QW.

(BR1GAND) #30

Well there are plenty of ppl that will balk at paying for the new ET just because the last was free… But the logic is very simple.

Old ET free because single player content left out…

ET: QW competes with other FPS… all that have single player content/bots

For SD to release QW without single player content at a price that its competition is charging for a game with both single player and multiplayer would be unwise… youre getting less for your money.

Sure many loyal ET fans like myself will prob buy it… some of the RTCW > ET crowd prob wont, but convincing those that play the next UT, Q4, BF2, and HL2/CSS games out there to come up with money = to what they payed for “complete game” will take some justification. To deny that based on blind loyalty is just ignorant.

(DarkangelUK) #31

Isn’t Battlefield 2 and Joint Ops: Typhoon Rising MP only? Even so, maybe a fraction of the gaming population play with bots? I’d rather the time was spent on the people it’s geared towards i.e. the online gamer, than spending half the time making sure a bot knows when to heal you. If the community wants bots that bad, they’ll make them. I play an MP game to play against multiple players. Maybe games companies should start making MB games, multibot? This is quite categorically geared towards online multiplayer gaming, they don’t try and hide that fact what so ever. Therefore i’m pretty sure they know fine well that people who crave bots won’t buy it. I shouldn’t think you or anyone else is so naive to think that they don’t realise this… i’d give them a little more credit than that.

(BR1GAND) #32

BF2 has Bots… Joint ops has bots…

If everyone else can implement bot AI why cant SD?

I too prefer real ppl over bots… I seriously doubt there are ppl that like bots better…

But there are plenty of reasons to add bots

  1. Off-line play… internet goes down you can still play.
  2. Lan-Partys… many times the lans I attend dont have internet connection wanna play a little 3 v 2 … bots can help round off teams or make for a coop opponent.
  3. Tweaking configs or testing maps… lots of uses here for those testing offline… I did this many times with Q3 bots while working on maps or tweaking my configs.
  4. Idle servers… Having bots in an idle server that leave as ppl join is very usefull for attracting ppl to the server.
  5. Learning the game… Reduces the noob effect for players trying out the game.

Dont be so close minded and challenge SD to put a game out well worth paying for.

(Sauron|EFG) #33

Who says they can’t? :nag:

Who says they won’t? :nag:

I’m sure it’s in their interrest that the game is worth paying for, because unless it’s fairly successful from the start it will also be pretty short-lived.

(I agree with all the reasons you gave for having bots btw, though I can live without them if the game is good and won’t care about them if the game sucks. :wink: )

(Joe999) #34

my point of view:

ET was free because it was free

maybe that’s why they all suck and i still play ET?

you already know the price for an unfinished game?

don’t you think that the companies know themselves what strategy is best for them?

who cares? btw: BF2 is buggy and gameplay sucks

why do you think they can’t? don’t you think they don’t want to?

why not play another game in that case?

do you really think people would join a server full with stupid bots?

you don’t know the game yet, so why do you think it isn’t worth paying for?

:smiley:

(BR1GAND) #35

Who says they can’t?

Maybe they can maybe the cant… to date they havent.

Who says they won’t?

Hope they do… Ill pay the just for the price of admission to see if they do… but then again I can afford to, a lot of gamers are a bit more selective with their cash. ET is a very popular game and puts up great stats on the GameSpy network for instance… A lot of gamers say this is only because its free. I personally think ET is popular because of its Class/Obj based elements and the short lived RPG style of campaign play. If SD includes all these elements in QW im sure the game will be fun… Im not sure if it will be as successful without it being free or an excellent value.

(Joe999) #36

well, i just found an advantage of bots: finally one could get a constant lag with them :smiley:

(BR1GAND) #37

I agree with you about BF2 for the most part… thousands others dont. BTW read up and youll see I was responding to DarkAngel who said BF2 and Joint Ops didnt have bots… :eek:

Its well documented that one of the reasons that ET was released free was because the Single Player AI was not finished… believe what you want.

BTW most of your arguments dont address my points and come off like youre just trolling… ie

… totally missed my point that the bots leave as ppl join and assumed that I meant to populate a server “full of stupid bots” as you put it… as opposed to giving server admins the option of having bots to play against until the server begins to fill with real ppl.

(Floris) #38

Imagine… 1000 servers being almost full, but when you join its full of bots

(Joe999) #39

most? sorry for that, i didn’t want to address any of your arguments

now i’m getting curious of how that should work. so instead that the server is empty, it’s full of bots in order to consume cpu and if one joins, the bots leave? or if you play a 6 vs 6 with 3 people, the missing players are bots? i wonder who joins when bots would play then. and i do hope the stupid bots don’t complain as the bot- ie teamkill rate would be high for me. lol, imagine a bot would steal a car right in front of me, i’d already kill it in spawn :smiley:

(BR1GAND) #40

Imagine… 1000 servers filled with less then 3 ppl unable to play decent game… oh well just fire up the single player mode… wait no single player :frowning:

Joe999… nvm u r clueless.